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Basically there's a bunch of plastic coffins in The states of georgia and Wyoming.
There's fully staffed death camps all over the US. People will be put into blue,red and yellow lists. People on the red lists will be killed right away. Blue list people will be subject to bizzarre test and eventually killed. People on the yellow list are low threat citizens. read What's in the link for yourself before you babble on.
I had trouble reading the blog. It didn't really say much of any evidence about FEMA death camps. All it said were, here are lots of coffins - thus FEMA MUST BE OUT TO KILL YOU.
where are they getting these ideas from? I've read more convincing UFO stories
Posted By: Shenandoah
Date: Saturday, 21 May 2005, 12:19 a.m.
"We are all on a Red or Blue list somewhere, those on the red list will be woken at 4am and taken to the camps and probably klled."
It's been three years. When is this 4am event supposed to happen?
2010 roughly. Watch the videos showing the coffins. Even in FEMA wasn't out to kill you. Why acres and acres of coffins?
You are aware, that natural disasters may take millions of lives?
You are aware, that natural disasters may happen at any given time without warning?
You are aware, that you need those coffins after such a disaster?
You are aware, that you need them quick?
I tried to read the blog you linked, but I was so busy asking google about every other word or name the author wrote, because he didn't give any explanation of what the hell he was talking about. I just read "This and that is going to explode/be attacked/be whatevered. Because of <name or organization that seems to be linked with government/church/secret organization>. Period."
Maybe it's just me, but I just don't understand what the author is trying to say. Can you please explain this a little?
Bullshit.
This is just pointless fear mongering. Don't believe this stuff.
Wow wtf.
That was a painful read.
Coffins are for dead people.
Would you rather them have shallow, dirt graves?
I do admit The blogger seems awfully one-sided. I think the blogger jumps to conclusions when saying the coffins are a part of a conspiracy to put people into deathcamps. I guess only time will tell if this is really to happen. I post this not to put people at fear. but simply be aware of things, just in case. plan for the best but prepare for the worst.
Actually guys, this isn't bullshit entirely.
Research REX 84, and yes, it was created in 1984
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=3010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rex+84
Worried now?
This program was created under the Reagan administration, do some reading on rex 84 and fema concentration camps, I am NOT JOKING, this isn't a conspiracy theory.
I do not however think we will be rounded up for death camps, I think the camps are for unruly citizens or people who resist.
I know some of you will label me a looney but frankly I don't care.
In my opinion, these camps are for civil disobediant americans, the obediant sheeple americans will probably just be left alone or transported to simple camps during a national emergency.
Ok all those Plexi Glass coffin things (They don't look much like traditional coffins) are a bit suspicisous i agree. I dont get where they're getting these red list blue list stuff from at all.
And When do these people thing Martial law is coming ???.....
But They do seem like a cross between Fundies and conspiracy theorists, they seem to think some satanic government will arise and will holocaust Christians.
Yeah the satanic bit is pretty lame. why do people take satanism so seriously. I mean it comes from a fucking book. Why don't people read Lord Of The Rings go "OH NOES!!! THERE'S EVIL ORCs PLOTTING WORLD DOMINATION!!!"
Yea you're right but, this REX 84 thing scares me shitlessQuote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
I didn't read it but it seems like from what I've seen you guys say he jumped from...
Coffins to- killing people to- killing people with experimentation to- people being labeled (with specific color coding I might add)
I think what the OP posted is a bit, wacko
But rex 84 is a real program.
Oh my God... FEMA has coffins?!?
Why would an agency that was created to react to disasters - such as incredibly virulent strains of viruses - possibly need airtight non-degradable pods for deceased people??
That blog was stupid. The government needs us just as much as we need them. Obviously the author has no family members in the armed services.
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As for "rex 84," of course the government has a plan to combat widespread anti government violence. Its to protect us from people like this blogger and his buddies.
Remember how riled up millions of people got during the Ron Paul Revolution? Imagine what it would have been like if Ron Paul had actually been advocating a revolution.
Plans like Rex 84 are in place to protect the majority of Americans when some persuasive group decides that its time to carry out large scale arson and violence.
My brother is in the military, my cousin is in government. I've known both of them my whole life, they're no different now than they were before they went in.
People need to learn to think before they speak.
Well you're right, I never said I agreed with any of the bloggers crazy ideas, I just thought its a bit scary to have a plan like that personally I disagree with things of that nature, perhaps the government IS afraid of the people and hiding it, which would make sense as to why they made that plan.
I'm hoping its harmless and not for bad purposes, we will see i guess.
Revolutions are always pushed by minorities. If they were majorities there wouldn't be a need for a revolution in the first place. Sorry, but if the people can't organize themselves to violently overthrow the government and protect themselves from tyranny, you're not living in a free country.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuB
Serkat, I honestly don't think the country could ever revolt again, the people in general are too, divided or seperated...we think of each other in groups and categories, the old school americans were pretty much united to fight england.
I don't see much unity in this nation other then a couple million ron paul fans, but honestly what could a few million un-armed people do against a government which has the most powerful army known to man?
I think revolution won't ever happen again.
And that's what makes me suspicious about rex 84, now im NOT saying they are planning to kill us all, i just think its 'fishy'
The truth is most people have food in America and a house. Even our poor people are fat. People are more or less satisfied (even if they aren't satisfied lol) with what they have. There isn't enough hardship for them to want to revolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by guerilla
Fishy is a good term, when I consider the fact that my facial profile is already in the databases and were I to travel abroad, I'd have to give them my finger prints as well, and carry all of that RFID'd with me. Or even retina scans for visiting the Arabic area. Meanwhile, Westerners are already lining up to get RFID implants so that they don't have to carry cash money into clubs or medical papers to doctors, or because their employer forces them to. I mean, this is happening right now, that's no crazy "theory". So, yeah, it is kinda spooky. :D But what can I do? If I wanna go to the USA, there's really no choice but to give them all of that and land in the FBI database. The potential for any sort of change is currently idling at 0%. With Obama elected, the U.S. will begin to have their 2nd Amandment progressively phased out. So I expect things to get more spooky, not less. Should I be expected to get a GPS-ready RFID implant to get a job or buy food in 20 years time, I'm going to become a suicide bomber. *paranoid*
It's funny that Obama said that it's within the scope of state legislature to ban handguns in specific areas, to limit the amount of weapon purchases per month or force everyone to register and get tested. I mean, I'm not an American but I think the Constitution is pretty clear when it says not only that there is a right to bear arms but also that this right shall not be infringed. Restricting the right is infringing it. What's not to understand?
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Originally Posted by NuB
Sorry this time i won't think before i speak when i say. You fondness of your family in the military is misguided. The US military uses Depleted uranium bullets that cause cancer. The Iraq war is a fictional joke. The coming Iran war is a fictional Joke. Anyone who is stupid enough to join the most oppressive military on earth has just thrown away their rights as free individuals as far as I'm concerned. There are even Elitists who will say the same thing.
Serkat, now you're scaring me lol I don't wanna even think about the future here, it scares me...id rather enjoy what freedom I have left :D
Forgive me if I don't give your opinions much weight. This topic is the first time I've seen you post, and, to be honest, you don't exactly strike me as the brightest light in the pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
Of course a person that joins the military is giving away some of their rights. They all know and accept this. The recruiter is careful to make this blatant. "Once you join, you CAN NOT LEAVE for four years/whatever."
This is the same as any job, you trade your time and a few rights for either experience or money. For example, if I worked at wal-mart I wouldn't be able to use free speech, I would get fired.
In the military you trade a shitload of your rights for a huge payoff. You get money, housing, free training in almost any field (that can be used once your out), and a bunch of life experiences such as traveling etc.
You have to remember that not every person that joins the military is infantry. Most intelligent people go into areas such as aviation, the sciences, engineering, computer tech, or almost anything else you can imagine. They do this not because they have some need to be a patriot, but because they can see no other way to get their life on track and enter a career (either because they are too poor or too lazy).
Wow, you win a cookie for being so smart. Its incredible how perceptive some people are!Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
You my friend, are a moron. I never said the military was perfect. Your making quite the jump from "The military iz planing mess genoside on its own citisens!!!!" to this.
Yeah, the military can be corrupt too. When you give a group of individuals too much power (ie. the Bush admin), your bound to have needless conflicts and challenges to the constitution. The same goes for the munitions company that developed those uranium tipped snipe bullets. They saw a need to have a weapon that pierced uranium alloyed tank armor and used their power to say fuck you to those poor snipers.
Theres no need to attack my family member's decision to improve his quality of life. He was twenty, drunk every day, smoked a lot of marijuana, and had no college education. His life was going nowhere, so he decided to go into a nonviolent branch of the military. Now he's set for life. He'll use the training and discipline he acquired to get a very high paying job easily once he's out.
Its easy to sit in your air conditioned house, full from the food your parent's bought you, and criticize other people's life decisions. How would you react if you were on rock bottom and saw no way up? I think giving up some of your basic human rights for a few years would look pretty inviting.
I say again, think before you speak. If you can't think, go out and acquire life experiences until you can.
Owned.
Whatever nub. Sure there are benefits of joining the military. But it's at the expense of innocent lives. I'm not just talking about the Iraq war. But every war pretty much in the 1900's. There are 160 some countries in the world. The US has Military has bases in 130 of them.
The US army tortured Iraqi people in prisons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghr...prisoner_abuse
Bush even tried to pardon himself from his own actions.
he even wants to make torture legal.
As for your argument about depleted uranium bullets. The facts (or photo's i should say) speak for themselves.
And so what if your family member was a drunk. I failed grade 7 twice due to alcohol and marijuana addiction. I decided for myself i needed to clean my act up. I didn't need to join the army to do it. I may have needed some counselling for a few weeks but that's it. The fact is: you don't need anything outside of yourself to tell you to clean you're act up. You make a conscious choice to do something about it. That's right - YOU. Now whatever hobby or job you get after you clean up an addiction is only icing on the cake that was already the conscious choice. (you).
I'm sorry I don't see how anyone can put on a uniform that represents tyranny. And if your brother joined i hope he joined to defend the constitution and not Stamp in the face of others.
See i don't give a fuck that you feel better about yourself because you call me names and be all superior and OWN me in front of all your internet friends. That doesn't hurt me one bit so stop it. you. 're wasting your breath. At least i die with a clear conscience. THAt, to me, Out-rules social status any day.
Ranma, do you think the United States needs a military? Do you think any other countries need the United States to have a military?
Jan 30th, 2001AD.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonoverlord
Oh wait, that was when Clinton was going to hold onto power and instill martial law through FEMA. Now it's Jan 30th, 2009AD and Bush. I've been around this block before...
I'm sure the government also has a plan to go to war against Canada, but I don't see that being enacted anytime soon.
It's one thing for FEMA to clamp down on a natural-disaster emergency like Katrina in an isolated incident, and another thing for the government to clamp down on the entire US in a bid for power. I also think it's unnecessary. Creeping annexation works so much better. It's unlikely that the US will fall to fascism, or anything of the like, in some major cataclysmic unwinding of the democratic institutions. Far more likely is a slow and gradual loss of civil liberties, expanded government control and power, diminished education and political participation, and the undermining of the press and public debate by corporate interests and apathy.
But that's just not as catchy as "Bush is going to take over the US because he doesn't want to leave office", and it doesn't get the average person riled up, as they are apparently too apathetic, non-participatory in politics, desiring of further government control, blase about expanded power and the excesses of capitalism, and generally have poorer education in these matters due to their lack of interest, a failing press, and prior schooling.
So, yeah, no need to worry, the future will be bright and shining so long as Luke Skywalker, Neo, and Donald Trump are there to save us from any villanous schemes.
Edit: I also want to add that I don't think there's necessarily any plan for my proposed "takeover". It's more a 'natural convergence of negative feedback loops and false ideologies' sort of thing. Far more difficult to approach since it's systemic and progressed not by some small elite but by the basic human nature of the populace.
That's more believable than the link the OP postedQuote:
"OH NOES!!! THERE'S EVIL ORCs PLOTTING WORLD DOMINATION!!!"
Plague? what year is this 1411?Quote:
These air tight seal containers would be perfect to bury victims of plague
To be fair, if you plan to kill tons of people, you just stick them all in mass graves. Then again the US does love wasting money. The real conspiracy is probably that they are mass produced and cost 100k each and the deal for which company they hired to make them, was probably illegally given to their buddies.
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There's fully staffed death camps all over the US. People will be put into blue,red and yellow lists. People on the red lists will be killed right away. Blue list people will be subject to bizzarre test and eventually killed. People on the yellow list are low threat citizens.
THUGGERY NO PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY
http://images.wikia.com/prestonsturg...politician.jpg
(while pointing to the thuggery)
Oh ok that's fair. Yep. Like the holocaust. Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alric
Close the year is 2008. You've been practicing haven't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrofan1
I have one thing to add, pyrofan...plagues only existed in the 15th century?
I'm pretty sure plagues can happen at any moment or time period.
I know that the plague can come back at any time, but it seems ridiculous to think that it would kill lots of people in this day and with with our anti-biotics.
lol speaking of antibiotics, antibiotics are responsible for the super bugs we have today such as that crazy staff infection which is nearly immune to all forms of treatment.
We are actually in the process of creating far worse plagues then we have ever seen, due to antibiotics.
So in a way, its not crazy to say we might have a plague, viruses mutate all the time, and with the progression of mrsa super bug, who knows what crazy concoction we'll see next. It might even be worse then the bubonic plague.
But I know what you're trying to say.
I have a lot of belief in the acceleration of technological advancement. I think we are on the edge of living in the superscience age. I think we are within thirty years of being able to whip any microbe we come across. Sicknesses/diseases from viruses and bacteria will probably become a thing of the past in our life times, and I think the same goes for cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by guerilla
Hmm, I don't share such an optimistic view I guess, im a pessimist by nature lol I can't help it.
Isn't that what people in your parents generation said?(Only with robot butlers :?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Well, we have moved really far in the right direction since then in medical science, but we have seriously screwed up when it comes to the space age lifestyle everybody back then was expecting. Think about the names of old sci-fi movies, like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Space 1999. But I think we are within a few decades of colonizing space. We aren't that far behind the expectations. Space stations for civilians are being built as we speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonoverlord
Anti-biotics will not stop serious epidemics though. Which we are dangerously walking on the edge of. Blu flu etc. Actually all the military industrial complex has to do is probably get some deranged person to release some biological experiment virus they have played around with like Aids, that would probably be much worse than anything previously experienced. That is actually part of their manipulation and in warefare. Aids was something they released which was useful. But there is more lethal and diverse diseases up their sleeve than aids. This is no longer the age of simplicity where nothing is invented and nothing to hide. There is everything to hide and secrecy abounds.Quote:
I know that the plague can come back at any time, but it seems ridiculous to think that it would kill lots of people in this day and with with our anti-biotics.
I read something the other day about scientists being near a cure for HIV, due to a non-mutating part of it a majority of the strains have in common is very vulnerable, don't have a link for you, but saved the base text.
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HOUSTON -- There is real hope that what’s happening in a Houston lab might lead to a cure for HIV.
“We have found an innovative way to kill the virus by finding this small region of HIV that is unchangeable,” Dr. Sudhir Paul of the University of Texas Medical School at Houston said.
Dr. Paul and Dr. Miguel Escobar aren’t talking about just suppressing HIV – they’re talking about destroying it permanently by arming the immune system with a new weapon lab tests have shown to be effective.
Ford Stuart has been HIV positive for 15 years. He’s on a powerful drug cocktail that keeps the disease in check.
“I’m on four different medications. Three of them are brand new, and it’s the first time that I’ve ever been non-detectible,” Stuart said. “I’m down to about – just for the HIV – about nine pills per day, five in the morning and four at night.”
But Stuart knows HIV mutates, and eventually it will learn how to outsmart his medications.
“The virus is truly complex and has many tricks up its sleeve,” Paul said.
But Dr. Paul thinks he’s cracked a code.
“We’ve discovered the weak spot of HIV,” he said.
Paul and his team have zeroed in on a section of a key protein in HIV’s structure that does not mutate.
“The virus needs at least one constant region, and that is the essence of calling it the Achilles heel,” Paul said.
That Achilles heel is the doctors’ way in. They take advantage of it with something called an abzyme.
It’s naturally produced by people, like lupus patients. When they applied that abzyme to the HIV virus, it permanently disarmed it.
“What we already have in our hand are the abzymes that we could be infusing into the human subjects with HIV infection, essentially to move the virus,” Paul said.
Basically, their idea could be used to control the disease for people who already have it and prevent infection for those at risk.
The theory has held up in lab and animal testing. The next step is human trials.
Meanwhile, every day in Houston, three people are diagnosed with HIV.
The doctors still need funding to launch human trials. In the world of HIV research, that’s often where things fall apart.
“Clinical trials are very expensive,” Paul said.
“That is the worry of the researcher. This is what nightmares are made of – that after 30 years of work, you find it doesn’t work,” Paul said.
But so far, it is working.
“This is the holy grail of HIV research, to develop a preventative vaccine,” Paul said.
“If we can get the viral loads down to a manageable level, that will preclude the need for these conventional drugs,” Escobar said.
Still, even if everything goes well, it’s at least five years before the research could help people with HIV.
The doctors know people like Ford Stuart are waiting.
“There are so many people struggling with the disease because it affects not only your body, but also your psyche, how you perceive yourself,” he said.
If nothing else, the research is promising for the tens of millions waiting for a cure.
We haven't been to the moon since 1969. 3 people went to the moon. We still have doubts about the nature of that mission and what happened. We know again they are hiding things. Let alone colonizing space. NASA isn't even a civilian space program. They won't let us have one we have been duped again.Quote:
I think we are within a few decades of colonizing space. We aren't that far behind the expectations.
A cure for things like this and cancer is already discovered. Like I said secrecy abounds and what you see on the news is a fantasy movie filtered down by the military industrial complex designed to get a predictable response so you can accept some hidden agenda. The way the public is manipulated is very obvious. This is what you should be seeing in your lounge room by now.Quote:
read something the other day about scientists being near a cure for HIV
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Considering I rarely watch the news, can I have some links to where you learned about these discoveries that the public has no clue about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix
So you can attack the sources or so you can learn? How can you rarely see the news when it's on every day nonstop in papers, radio and pounding it into your head. That is an unrealistic statement unless you live in the forest. It's already got you covered baby. That is why all news is the same from every source. Wow something going on much? Operation mocking bird. Good thing we have the internet so people like me can speak out about their experience and what they know. Go look it up yourself if you really want to be educated. The sources are too vast for me to mention here the important thing is that you go verify after you have been told. That bit is up to you instead of making a cheeky sarcastic comment for sources. If the public doesn't know about it then why are thousands of bloggers like me trying to get the word out. And what do you expect when the public is not informed anyway.
prepare, compare, consider, don't be judgmental, do anything but feed the ego which wants to be RIGHT.
Well I don't know about anyone else but my ego wants other people to be aware and empowered through information.
most people will only look at information when it encroaches on what they take to be their personal belongings.
I have this great information that will change the world. I found out that we can all live forever. But I'm not telling you anything, go spend hours shifting through the internet and find it for yourself based on one random person's unsubstantiated, outlandish claim.
:/
Don't complain like a ridiculous clown because I'm not spoon feeding you sources to every word I type. First step is research the military industrial complex. Things like Philadelphia Experiment and also the Montauk Project. Opertaion mocking bird. Dark Mission, etc. You will ofcourse come across things which point to advanced technology which has highly significant medical implications along with Anti-gravity magnetism from reverse engineered UFOS which has energy efficient way to totally eliminate the cost of energy production.
But no you would rather sit and cry that you don't have the information. "Boo hoo not fair I want to ignore, and got no platter to throw on the floor :/".
I'll give you a shiny penny for it! No? Aw shucks....:banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by DNK
Minervas, you say you want to empower others through knowledge, yet you wont supply links to your "sources" so we may empower ourselves? Also, i apologize if i'm misinterpreting your words, but your saying there is no way that i don't watch a news station, listen to a news station radio, or read the newspaper? The most news i get on TV is the local weather.
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How can you rarely see the news when it's on every day nonstop in papers, radio and pounding it into your head. That is an unrealistic statement unless you live in the forest.
So I'm supposed to sift through countless internet sources (are there any other?) for some obscure knowledge? If you are so well versed, surely you can point me to the more credible and comprehensive ones.
Apologies if I don't just jump on every conspiracy theory I hear on an internet forum. I've seen what passes as valid information to some people, and I have little reason right now to believe your view is any different as you haven't given me a single thing to go on.
Why is the MIC holding onto these cures? What purpose does it serve?
Conspiracy boners. It gives them pleasure to see the sexual excitement of conspiracy theorists. It fuels their life-force.Quote:
Originally Posted by DNK
Im only a troll when i drink. Then again, the only times I really post is when I drink. Sorry?
OK i admit it.....I sperminated all over my keyboard when i watched Loose Change.Quote:
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.....:roll:
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Originally Posted by DNK
Ok here's a source for you.
Although I appreciate Manson's take on the current state of the recording agency and pop culture, and I appreciate his chord progressions and style, although perhaps not his personal outlook and that of the editor, I don't really think it's much of a credible source...
So you are saying you want to believe it but something is stopping you.
Me? I'm intrigued by it. Perhaps desiring it a bit. Odd knowledge is... delicious. But yes, something quite significant is stopping me, namely a negative feedback loop called doubt. Those negative feedback loops are good fun. This one is particularly strong considering how absolutely off the wall the statement is.
Anyway, this game was fun but I'm off.
OMG i want a monkey now!!!
http://wilzar.wikispaces.com/Types+Of+Monkeys
:banana::banana::boogie::boogie::shock::shock::rol l::roll::P:P
monkeys get to have fun all day and throw poo as a career
I skimmed the blog, and what I basically got was OH FUCK OH FUCK SOME BOXES!!1
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?i...seupll4on0.jpg
Peace cannot exist unless all of humanity is united. governments exist to keep the people divided, and further the goals of the rich owners. repulican and democrat, rich and poor, black and white, these are all labels to keep the people divided. free your mind and your ass will follow.
We have to get more people thinking like this. Fast. If we ask for help it will arrive.Quote:
Peace cannot exist unless all of humanity is united. governments exist to keep the people divided, and further the goals of the rich owners. repulican and democrat, rich and poor, black and white, these are all labels to keep the people divided. free your mind and your ass will follow.
But we need a enemy! Dam those space aleins!
Still haven't figured it out.Quote:
But we need a enemy!
america is all about finding a conspiracy.
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america is all about finding a conspiracy.
I can just imagine Bush saying this yesterday.
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conspiracies like this fema one are retarded, i really can't see how people can be so paranoid over something like this
I do. The constitution means nothing anymore and this country is going to hell. We elected bush presidents in this country. Twice. If thats not a sign something is wrong then I don't know what is.
America is also broke. How are they not real when there is photos of them existing anyway. Why are they building so many concentration camps for and why are people detained for no reason.
Not knowing something is not natural by now is denile coward sickness.
as far as i'm concerned the coffins are for natural disasters for when hurricanes and tornadoes and shit rip through cities and they can easily put the bodies in there to transport them.
that blog is talking about a "new world order" group existing in the U.S.A. that's basically going to over throw the government, rofl? then they're going to wake people up at 4a.m. and take them to death camps, are you kidding me? if this was true then the "new world order" wouldn't tell the times they're going to kill people or let their lists leak out over the internet, and apparently they have "mind-control" techniques, then comes the citizens that know nothing of the "new world order" and their organs are going to be harvested, i'm sorry but this sounds like a terrible IFC horror flick to me. and the cities they give that are targeted for the nuclear attacks are pretty stupid to:
* Atlanta, GA
* Houston.
* Denver,
* Texas City,
* Chicago, - home of the Sears tower which has the zip code 606060....& Loyola University (Jesuit Catholic UNI) Zip Code 60626 See HERE
* Kansas City - Federal Reserve Regional Bank located here.
* Oklahoma City - Remember the Oklahoma City Bombing On April 19, 1995 (Timothy McVeigh was accused of this crime)
y'know perhaps you don't know of a lot of cities in tennessee but i'm pretty sure if you're even half ass educated on the nuclear bomb history you'd know that oak ridge is home to one big ass nuclear plant that had it's part in the nuclear bomb making, to me that'd be a bigger target than any of the above, and i'm sure there's other huge nuclear sites around the country, other targets that i'd go for if i was a terrorist like the person that wrote the blog is speaking of is dams, blow up dams and you cause massive floods, i mean seriously you could come up with better targets than just wanting to blow up places that have buildings like the sears tower and shit in it, to me the person that wrote that blog has watched fight club and jericho way too much.
as for the little "death camps" i'm pretty sure the U.S.A. isn't going to commit genocide on it's own people, they're probably "prisons" were they will detain terriosts and hold them there.
The NWO is not going to overthrow the government. It owns the government. There are plenty of politicians who have talked of establishing a new world order, most significantly bush sr. The plan of these people is to set up a global government. They have admitted to this outright. Look into david rockefeller and organizations like the council on foreign relations. A lot of conspiracy theories are crap but the NWO isn't.
Who do you think is responsible for some of the assanign government policies we currently use, like the war on drugs and the homegrown terrorist act. these people are taking away our rights.
anyone that's half ass smart can make their own drugs, therefore it can't be taxed that good, as for strong medications they need to be illegal because you don't need them unless you're in disgusting pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by stonedape
the "NWO" conspiracy that website speaks of is retarded, why are they going to blow cities up to establish a "new world order"? and why aren't they going after bigger targets? i find it stupid to believe that the "NWO" is going to kill anyone that knows about them and try to brainwash the rest that doesn't know about them, if the "NWO" is in control of the government i suppose they can see me typing right now, i dare them to try and wake me up at 4a.m. tomorrow.
I agree with you on this part but thats a different theory on what the NWO is. I think the NWO is a group of finnancially and political elite people who control the media. By controlling the media they control what people think because they do own a majority of newspapers and telivisions stations. Why do you think the news is so biased nowadays. It's all just propaganda to get you scared of the terrorists in the next big disease thats gonna kill everyone. They do this so that they can pass more laws to make you feel safe when there really was very little threat to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitsuJ
I really doubt they'll blow up any cities. But if they do they'll blame it on terrorist so that the U.S. has a reason to go to war with Iran.
people prosper from fear and paranoia, it's basically a method of selling things, i'd agree on the law deal, the paranoia that's given to citizens of countries will feel safe when they make the law when in deed there was probably a little threat in the first place, but some laws i believe are just precautious measures. iQuote:
Originally Posted by stonedape
hardly evernever watch the news anyways because it's usually one sided and full of garbage. they're already stated reasons why they'd like to go to war with iran, like iran running jet fighting practices, etc. etc. but i don't see the U.S. going so far as to blow up their own cities, if that's the case then i really hope the U.S. government is toppled over and destroyed since they're basically trying to bring upon their own destruction and lose the trust of their citizens
Yeah I really doubt they'll blow any cities up. Thats just ridiculous.
If you don't buy the NWO theory then why do you think the news is one sided and biased? It seems to me that the news is specifically designed to scare people. I really despise the news. To quote Ray Bradbury "watch the evening news and your brain will turn to mush."
the news is over run with garbage anyways most of the time
If all of humanity is united, peace will ensue, but so will boredom, at which point we will be looking for something to point a finger at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix
So violence and anger are the only things that interest you? Personally I like music and books and discussing the deep philisophical questions of existance. Nobodys gotta go to war for any of that shit. Vengence is just an insteinct that most people can't seem to get over. If people would just learn to forgive each other there would be no need for war. Non-violence is a much more effective tool than violence.
i don't think the world would get "bored" with world peace, it'd be a much better place and lives would be better probably, in war stricken countries that is.
but as long as there is religion, and free will, and different racial/ethnic groups, amongst other things, there will never be world peace.
I think there could be, the problem is ignorance. If you teach people to develop their conscioussness they will realize that we are all one race and that what religion you are is unimportant as long as you love everyone. But I do generally have a problem with organized religion as it divides people. When I say UNITED I mean it. The only way to unite people is with complete and unconditional love.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitsuJ
well the problem isn't so much to what religion someone is, the problem is what the message there religion gives is, take palestine and israel, palestine thinks that israel's land is their's and that god wants it to be their's, some religions just give off strange messages like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by stonedape
Like I said...always looking to point the finger.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitsuJ
Yeah, thats how things are now, but in order to unite the people you would have to get rid of divisions like these. Besides, all the major religions beleive in the same thing and are just too arrogant to realize it.
But this shit is getting way off topic. Anyone wanna talk about FEMA. I don't see why a disaster releif agency needs detention centers. I've seen some pictures and these places look fishy. They've got tall barberd wire fences and shit. I mean if theres a disaster outside do you really have to keep people locked up for their own safety? And these FEMA cats did a real botched job on New Orleans when that all went down. They just look suspiscious to me.
stonedape you have some good awareness. But it goes further than NWO. The New world order is a result wanted by manipulating humans. Those behind the NWO are too smart for humans even the elite to have created as a manipulating force. This thing from the top is extraterrestrial intelligence. That's why it seems so godlike and unstoppable. People do not realize the gap between our level of intelligence and the average intelligence of space traveling species which are mature races unlike our immature infant race. The elite are being used just like us. If you saw a view of the entire NWO structural system at the top you would see who it really is from space. Millions and millions of UFOs surrounding the entire planet like a highway of organization. When they went to the moon all they saw was UFOs following them constantly.
We are like the tribe people on the island who don't see the approaching boats from civilization. Some of us are seeing them and some are not. Some are scared out of their mind and others and inspired. Either way it's a huge thing when you contact a civilized world you didn't know existed.
The Nordics already came here and told us advice to get out of our situation but those representing us didn't want to get rid of their nuclear weapons and weren't interested in the spirituality required to have a proper alliance.
I don't know about extra terrestrials. I personally think In order to gain that kind of intellegence to travel between galaxies you would have to develope a very high level of consciousness. In doing this you would realize that it is wrong to take advantage of weaker species like that. I think the majority of the NWO thinks they are actually helping people. They see themselves as god, as some great liberators taking us to this utopia. Kind of like Ford in aldous Huxleys Brave New World.
Human beings are generally good, but they can be easily decieved. What the NWO does is convince people that bad is good. Slavery is freedom. That material possesions can be a replacement for love.
I think the E.T. explanation is kinda like the whole reptilian scum thing. I think it some kind of false information planted by the CIA to discredit people who know the truth. I really hope that E.T.s exist but it just seems to me that if they had the technology to travel between galaxies or even just solar systems, they would have to be extremely advanced. I mean they would have to travel at the speed of light. That just sounds like a lot of work to go through just to enslave some humans.
I don't think you exactly understand their mentality at that consiousness level. At this level of complexity wrong and right become complementary things as well as separate. But not only that taking advantage is depending on the situation of things. When intelligence is increased so is evil. You go in both directions, increased evil and increased good. Evil doesn't disappear. It gets more sophisticated.Quote:
In doing this you would realize that it is wrong to take advantage of weaker species like that.
It isn't false because there is evidence of it. Symbolism representing them around us clearly indicates presence as well as bits and pieces of ancient history when you put it all together. If you don't think this is ET involvement then you better take a look at how everything developed so incredibly fast for no particular reason in the last few decades. How we get writing numbers, maths, physics and all the rest. From caveman to this? No way not in that short time.Quote:
I think the E.T. explanation is kinda like the whole reptilian scum thing. I think it some kind of false information planted by the CIA to discredit people who know the truth.
I don't think you understand exactly the situation. They don't travel at the speed of light. They travel dimensionally. All they have to do is manipulate frequencies to go in and out of space through making use of the zero point energy field utilizing energy and gravitational forces as well as magnetism. They are beyond going really fast. But they can go in any direction at any speed and do right angles without stopping if they wanted. Including at the speed of light.Quote:
I really hope that E.T.s exist but it just seems to me that if they had the technology to travel between galaxies or even just solar systems, they would have to be extremely advanced. I mean they would have to travel at the speed of light. That just sounds like a lot of work to go through just to enslave some humans.
The so called "evil" ones are not looking to enslave. The war is on consciousnesses. They are looking to harvest the actual soul essence of a being and win them over to the "evil side" so they can 'recruit'.
We have the same potential as them and not far off from becoming like them. That's why they are so interested. It's like when you have a pet dog and you want to make it like you. You spend time competing with the other person so the dog likes you better.
The difference is how each side goes about it.
Jesus was an extra-terrestrial stunt from the good side. If you look at old paintings there is even UFOs in the background. Hitler was a pawn for the bad side. The magnitude of these events don't come up randomly out of the blue they are decisions made based on advanced astrology and other things on what theatrical event is needed in what time for what purpose, for what effect.
My concept of higher consciousness is based off of the budhist concept. Higher consciousness does not make things more complex, but rather it enables people to see life more simpley as it truly is. My personal experience is that increased intelligence is that as intelligence increases so does ones sense of responsibility. As intellegence increases one realizes that we all have far greater potential but we cannot achieve this potential as a species unless we all work together. not together against some evil species but just together as one.
And I'm not trying to say that ETs don't exist, just that they if they had come to this planet it would be to help us not hurt us. Imean if I could travel between dimensions I'm sure there'd be a lot cooler things to do then fight a war.
And I think the whole math, science and writing things comes from the limitless potential of our own conciousness. Writing and language are developed from our innermost drive to make connetctions with other souls. Math and science are just patterns wich over time we have been able to recognize.
By the way do you think the pyramids were created by aliens? I used to be real into the whole P-Funk mothership connection thing. But currently I think at some point in the past Human beings were more advanced, at least conciously. but I don't know. I find the whole subject very interesting and try to keep an open mind to all explanations.
Wow, this convo just got SO deep..interesting read.
well these so called "death camps" or "concentration camps" are mainly old military bases/buildings or old prisons that are no longer in operation anymore, plus the U.S. had concentration camps during WWII, i highly doubt FEMA is actually using these as "death camps" or what have you, someone is probably taking pictures of it and saying they are.
people create fake things all the time to manifest paranoia and fear among people, take people who make crop circles, etc. etc. this thing is just an attempt to try and make people paranoid.
I don't wish to try and speak about higher consiousness in words. It was a side note. I would be inviting an argument due to my lack of ability to use words to describe such a thing or principle. It was my mistake to mention it. Please don't start arguing with me that isn't the point of this. You have to understand though that simplicity can only exist with much complexity. You can't remove things from the equation if it's not appropriate. More complexity can provide benifits and this is the area I am mentioning. I didn't say it makes things confusing. This is not what I meant to say.Quote:
Higher consciousness does not make things more complex, but rather it enables people to see life more simpley as it truly is.
Two aspects of life. One involves conflict, another co-operation. White blood cells work in co-operation with the immune system to defeat bad bacteria. This is similar. I know what you're saying. Co-operation is a good thing to defeat division. But please don't under-estimate and throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you don't defeat the bad bacteria it will run a muck it's not suppose to thrive. Conflict can be a solution to stop the bacteria and prevent sickness and that is how you co-operate effectively for freedom.Quote:
we cannot achieve this potential as a species unless we all work together. not together against some evil species but just together as one.
You're going to have to remember life is not just cotton candy and everyone superior is here to help. It's a nice concept but enemies exist as well as friends.Quote:
if they had come to this planet it would be to help us not hurt us. I mean if I could travel between dimensions I'm sure there'd be a lot cooler things to do then fight a war.
I'm talking about tracing the origins of things and then calculating it's development. It becomes obvious these things appeared suddenly. That's because those who already had the experience gave us the tools for varies reasons.Quote:
And I think the whole math, science and writing things comes from the limitless potential of our own conciousness.
That assumption is easy to make. And the easy way is usually the wrong way.Quote:
Math and science are just patterns wich over time we have been able to recognize.
You don't know how exactly things have progressed. That's why history is so important to study. Most of our history is missing. The pyramids are just one example of things forgotten.
Corresponding pyramids are on mars. We don't understand what they are for. They are not for us to live in. It's an energy system that is integrated into the universe for which purposes I am not certain but it involves communication and navigation, perhaps even of dimensional gateways of some sort. I believe they energy can easily be utilized for initiation of a human. Many people are said to have done that.Quote:
By the way do you think the pyramids were created by aliens?
Now you're just cruising on the P-Funk brother-ship thing. I'm all into the taking credit for the pyramids D-funk casual thing. But you got to remember we ain't B-funk enough to produce the A-funk accuracy with our wheel and cart F-funk unusually intelligent connection thing.Quote:
I used to be real into the whole P-Funk mothership connection thing.
I'm sure you'll find some very interesting connections if you keep the research real. If you don't believe ETs are here. Do a quick net search or visit the library and that should improve your insight right away. Both on the pyramids and aliens and how they connect.Quote:
I find the whole subject very interesting and try to keep an open mind to all explanations.
Do you have any suggestions on where to look? I've done only a small amount of research in the subject of ETs but most of what I've found is very vague or completely ridiculous. I'd really love to find some solid evidence. Most of what I've seen are pictures and eyewitness acounts of UFOs. That and people claiming that they themselves are aliens, but these people have so ridiculous and conflicting stories. I guess the reason I find it hard to beleive that there are ETs on earth now is that I'm just biased into thinking that if ETs were able to travel here they would be beings of love, not of hate. But if they are here as you claim it would seem that I would have to be wrong, otherwise why wouldn't they reveal themselves? But if they are here to feed off of us like the cattle we seem to act like then this would make sense. I have heard about the pyramids on mars thing and I'll have to look into that, it sounds very interesting.
Do you think that the people who control the NWO are aliens, or do you think that they are aliens? Like, is David Rockefeller an alien, or have aliens used some kind of mind control on him? I really just think he is a very confused man who thinks he's actually doing something good for our species. I think he is just so blinded by greed and power that he thinks that the point of life is to gain as much material possesions as possible, and that people will be truly happy once he creates his Orwellian utopia.
Do you think the scientific advances were given to us by aliens or are people who made them, like Einstein, aliens themselves? I really think human beings could come across these discoveries on their own. Most people(myself included) don't live up to a hundreth of their potential. When they do you get people like Einstein and Nikola Tesla.
Also do you think that we currently live in a totalitiarian state? It seems to me that a lot of conspiracy theorists beleive that a totalitarian state is something that is coming in the future, like a one world fascist government or something. I thought this for a while but after reading Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and comparing it to how things currently are I fear that this is already our fate. The NWO already has complete control over people in america and europe. They condition the people using the media and the school system. I mean even smart people will beleive anything nowadays. Just look at 9-11. Regardless of weather the government was involved, they obviously did nothing to stop it. It was obviously a false flag attack so they could go to war in the middle east. And despite all this a lot of very intelligent people I know think nothing of it. The school system here in america is disgusting. The force kids from a young age to pledge allegience. If you don't you get in trouble. This is obvious brainwashing. Kids that young can't think for themselves.
Good questions and good post.
In terms of evidence go to your newsagents. They will have magazines for your local area and sightings. They provide the information you need to verify. Will have articles on abduction etc.Quote:
Do you have any suggestions on where to look?
If you are serious look into people like Jordan maxwell.
In term of the pyramids you really have to go to the library for that I don't know any off the top of my head. I only remember things I have picked on over the years of research but i don't keep all the sources in my pocket. The important thing for me is the information.
If you want solid evidence you'll find it. That's for certain. But you have to look seriously not as a Joke.
This may frighten you, or you will laugh one or the other :)Quote:
Do you think that the people who control the NWO are aliens, or do you think that they are aliens? Like, is David Rockefeller an alien, or have aliens used some kind of mind control on him?
People get replaced all the time. It's common for someone abducted to be threatened to do something, and if they don't a clone will replace them. Sometimes they let the clone live their life for a day to convince the person it works and they aren't bluffing. They can erase memory so that isn't a problem either. This is super super intelligent species. That is the average level of intelligence out there. The truth is out there. I can't stress enough how intelligent aliens are and how infant we are.
I can only just tell the difference between a clone and a natural person. It's extremely difficult. You have to be really sensitive. Then you figure out it's a clone. The weak spot you test is emotions. Clones imitate emotion. When you learn to tell the difference between an aura and real emotion, compared with artificial acting. You can get an idea that's it's a clone. Scary stuff when you know it's real but you have to deal with it. You begin to see the good ones too. Which is a relief.
You can't logically say "it's a clone". The only way you tell is emotional energy and lack of it. Even that is difficult to tell because it's imitated. Everything but the soul is basically there. So if you can know what a soul is in a person. Then you can pick out who doesn't have one.
Remember that you also have the good aliens placing their pieces on the board too. Wouldn't you place your pieces in the best position?
Yet you don't want to set up too many or it becomes obvious, doesn't it? Often a person is kept alive removed. Replaced with a clone. Put back again and memory falsely implanted before anyone suspects anything.
And you wonder how the NWO can be so illusively manipulative.
David Rockefeller. This kind of guy I don't know. All I know is that he is involved with a bloodline that has somehow this knowledge of how to keep the genetics and control their incarnations and carry on whatever they have been doing for years. At the least the family is involved with something that is a connection to the Nazi ETs.
Also you have the Nazi NWO. And the NWO of freedom which is basically just getting back to normal. Movies like transformers and matrix, hellboy, handcock. They come out every month just about these movies. All these are just like secret codes to us who know what the deal is. Like messages. It's not really about entertainment at all. Not the serious more important purpose of it. It's more preparation for changes.
Mind control is also used. There is movie coming out about what happens when they "choose you".
Some people are blinded by greed. But some people (seen batman?) just want to watch the world burn. They are beyond materiality. By that stage of intelligence they are already in contact with the Nazi ETs.
Most people that smart do not waste time here because do you realize how boring everyone is? Have you being to a dating site lately?Quote:
Most people(myself included) don't live up to a hundredth of their potential. When they do you get people like Einstein and Nikola Tesla.
But some have special things they have to do. If you find the public highly irritating you are most likely here because you have to do something that is evening out some other thing you regretted about something else. Now I'm getting into past life nonsense. But it's real there is no other way to explain it.
Tesla had an interesting unique part here. His potential is a spark of what we should be without genetic manipulation.
This planet is a prison. There is no other way to explain life on this planet. You have no access to the universe when you stay here. You are stuck until you die then you reflect on what you did in terms of love. It's a prison until we transform it and get the Nazi off our back.
Earth itself is an entity consiousness that we are part of dealing with all this but I'm going off topic. Earth no longer wishes to be a prison planet. That is what the alignment of 2012 is about.
That's what people like Alex Jones. David Icke and Wilcock all the other nuts are here for. To break the ice. Conspiracy theorists? That is just a new expertise.
You bring up a lot of important points. I just don't have time tonight.
If we would have been having this conversation 2 months ago I'd probubly complete agree with you, but I have recently discovered the true limitless power of the soul. Not to say that I've experienced it, but I've been doing a lot of reading.
I used to find life very boring and feel as if there was more to it than what I was currently experienceing. I have found that there is. There is more to existance then our physical bodies and our material universe. There is also the spiritual.
Our bodies are not really prisons but like vehicles for our selves to experience existance. And these are some damn good vehicles. Very comfortable, very beautiful, very complex vehicles. And because we have these nice vehicles we are ourselves afraid to let go of them. We feel that if we did not have our bodies we would have nothing. But this is just a trick set up by our minds to perpetuate human survival. All that we can truly have is the soul, the real self, whatever you wanna call the thing that is you deep down inside. Everything is just temporary. And quite temporary if you think of how short your life is compared with that of the earth.
We are currently stuck in a loop. That is to say our souls are. We have experienced life and we know that we like it. Most like it so much that they think that it is all there is. This is what I think causes reincarnation. When we die we are so scared about not being alive anymore that we seek out the first availiable chance to get back down to earth and live again. I think that if we realize what existance is we can accept death and transcend our bodies. Then we can freely travel throughout the universe. But we don't need to wait until death, there are ways for the soul to leave the body temporarily if one can become detached enough from "reality". This would be like an OBE.
You can access the universe, it is just extremely difficult. The only way I've even come close is by experimenting with pschedelic drugs. I don't know weather or not I would suggest this, as you really need to be in the right state of mind to fully do this. I've only become detached from my body once, and it was before I had any of this information. It was relatively horrific, because nothing else existed. I had recently done wrong to a close freind and felt as if I was completely alone within the universe. Right before this happened I went around asking people if they were actually real becasue I was sure that nothing else existed. Then i went to lay down, because I was really freaked out, and that s when everything disapeared. There was nothing but darkness, and my thoughts. even when I opened my eyes. It was truly terrifying. I felt as if all matter and energy no longer existed and i was just floating in space. I don't really know how long this lasted but it seemed like forever.
I have recently been researching a drug called DMT. It's created in your brain in your pineal gland, which is your 3rd eye. This drug apparently causes OBEs in high doses, when smoked or injected. People who have done the drug have claimed to experience something more real than reality.
DMT is released into the body at death. This is how I beleive the soul leaves the body.
I don't know how soon I will try this stuff. For one it's created in your brain and released as you dream, so I think if you gain enough control over your dreams you can actually have the experience for free, and not have to worry if someone just sold you some speed or something. I also think that you have to be able to have a great amount control over your mind, otherwise the experience will be too intense and you won't even remember it.
I'm not trying to say that you are wrong or that I've figured it all out. It's just that I'm begining to think that a lot of conspiracy theories are really just distractions to keep you from truly freeing your mind.
What do you think is going to happen in 2012? I've heard alot about it but most of it seems ridiculous. Like either the worlds gonna end, or we all gonna have mass telepathy and know the meaning of life. I just don't see how the end of the mayan calander means either of those. I don't think anything is gonna happen, it seems to me like another Y2K type thing.
I too am interested in DMT. Please make a note if you come across it/decide to try it...I'm trying it the second I can get my sticky little hands on it :D
Go to nelsons ledges in cleveland during a hookaville weekend. You could find some. But i wanna try it at home, lying down, or meditiating.
look i never said i completely agreed witht eh blogger jumping to conclusions. It is odd Though. Look up the secret congress meeting on youtube. APPARRENTLY there was discussion of a planned economic collapse, geared toward making people rioting. That is when they will track down insurgents. Maybe more BS i dunno. But just keep your eyes open just in case. plan for the best but prepare for the worst.
I heard about that. Sounds very possible. Thats what I've heard the FEMA camps are for. When the people riot, say they are a threat to the peace and declare marshall law. Then throw all the rioters in the "detention centers". That way these people will be detanies, not prisoners so then they can violate habius corpus or whatever.
I heard this might happen sometime before the 08 election so bush can call a state of emergency and stay in power, but I doubt they'd do that. People would get really pissed, but maybe thats what their going for. besides, they own mccain and obama so whats the point?
All I'm saying is reality is more than what it appears on the surface. Nature is self healing and self running so I agree nothing is wrong in that aspect.
Careful about taking drugs like DMT. If you don't prepare yourself or take too much or something goes wrong you can have a really bad trip and it can effect your life.
I've never taken any drugs like this but from what I've read it's got some serious potential to open your mind to reality.
ranma soon as you said you agreed I went even more crazy.
I'm always careful with drugs :)
Have had many bad trips - to the point where they no longer phase me. Perhaps this desensitisation is to my benefit? Oh well, off-topic (maybe)
Agreed with what? crazy... why? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix
Nevermind it's all good.
cool. But I Insist!