Thread: Everything you need to know about FEMA death camps.

the news is over run with garbage anyways most of the time

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Still haven't figured it out.

If all of humanity is united, peace will ensue, but so will boredom, at which point we will be looking for something to point a finger at.

So violence and anger are the only things that interest you? Personally I like music and books and discussing the deep philisophical questions of existance. Nobodys gotta go to war for any of that shit. Vengence is just an insteinct that most people can't seem to get over. If people would just learn to forgive each other there would be no need for war. Non-violence is a much more effective tool than violence.

i don't think the world would get "bored" with world peace, it'd be a much better place and lives would be better probably, in war stricken countries that is.

but as long as there is religion, and free will, and different racial/ethnic groups, amongst other things, there will never be world peace.

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

i don't think the world would get "bored" with world peace, it'd be a much better place and lives would be better probably, in war stricken countries that is.

but as long as there is religion, and free will, and different racial/ethnic groups, amongst other things, there will never be world peace.

I think there could be, the problem is ignorance. If you teach people to develop their conscioussness they will realize that we are all one race and that what religion you are is unimportant as long as you love everyone. But I do generally have a problem with organized religion as it divides people. When I say UNITED I mean it. The only way to unite people is with complete and unconditional love.

Originally Posted by stonedape

I think there could be, the problem is ignorance. If you teach people to develop their conscioussness they will realize that we are all one race and that what religion you are is unimportant as long as you love everyone. But I do generally have a problem with organized religion as it divides people. When I say UNITED I mean it. The only way to unite people is with complete and unconditional love.

well the problem isn't so much to what religion someone is, the problem is what the message there religion gives is, take palestine and israel, palestine thinks that israel's land is their's and that god wants it to be their's, some religions just give off strange messages like that

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

well the problem isn't so much to what religion someone is, the problem is what the message there religion gives is, take palestine and israel, palestine thinks that israel's land is their's and that god wants it to be their's, some religions just give off strange messages like that

Like I said...always looking to point the finger.

Yeah, thats how things are now, but in order to unite the people you would have to get rid of divisions like these. Besides, all the major religions beleive in the same thing and are just too arrogant to realize it.

But this shit is getting way off topic. Anyone wanna talk about FEMA. I don't see why a disaster releif agency needs detention centers. I've seen some pictures and these places look fishy. They've got tall barberd wire fences and shit. I mean if theres a disaster outside do you really have to keep people locked up for their own safety? And these FEMA cats did a real botched job on New Orleans when that all went down. They just look suspiscious to me.

stonedape you have some good awareness. But it goes further than NWO. The New world order is a result wanted by manipulating humans. Those behind the NWO are too smart for humans even the elite to have created as a manipulating force. This thing from the top is extraterrestrial intelligence. That's why it seems so godlike and unstoppable. People do not realize the gap between our level of intelligence and the average intelligence of space traveling species which are mature races unlike our immature infant race. The elite are being used just like us. If you saw a view of the entire NWO structural system at the top you would see who it really is from space. Millions and millions of UFOs surrounding the entire planet like a highway of organization. When they went to the moon all they saw was UFOs following them constantly.

We are like the tribe people on the island who don't see the approaching boats from civilization. Some of us are seeing them and some are not. Some are scared out of their mind and others and inspired. Either way it's a huge thing when you contact a civilized world you didn't know existed.

The Nordics already came here and told us advice to get out of our situation but those representing us didn't want to get rid of their nuclear weapons and weren't interested in the spirituality required to have a proper alliance.

I don't know about extra terrestrials. I personally think In order to gain that kind of intellegence to travel between galaxies you would have to develope a very high level of consciousness. In doing this you would realize that it is wrong to take advantage of weaker species like that. I think the majority of the NWO thinks they are actually helping people. They see themselves as god, as some great liberators taking us to this utopia. Kind of like Ford in aldous Huxleys Brave New World.

Human beings are generally good, but they can be easily decieved. What the NWO does is convince people that bad is good. Slavery is freedom. That material possesions can be a replacement for love.

I think the E.T. explanation is kinda like the whole reptilian scum thing. I think it some kind of false information planted by the CIA to discredit people who know the truth. I really hope that E.T.s exist but it just seems to me that if they had the technology to travel between galaxies or even just solar systems, they would have to be extremely advanced. I mean they would have to travel at the speed of light. That just sounds like a lot of work to go through just to enslave some humans.

In doing this you would realize that it is wrong to take advantage of weaker species like that.

I don't think you exactly understand their mentality at that consiousness level. At this level of complexity wrong and right become complementary things as well as separate. But not only that taking advantage is depending on the situation of things. When intelligence is increased so is evil. You go in both directions, increased evil and increased good. Evil doesn't disappear. It gets more sophisticated.

I think the E.T. explanation is kinda like the whole reptilian scum thing. I think it some kind of false information planted by the CIA to discredit people who know the truth.

It isn't false because there is evidence of it. Symbolism representing them around us clearly indicates presence as well as bits and pieces of ancient history when you put it all together. If you don't think this is ET involvement then you better take a look at how everything developed so incredibly fast for no particular reason in the last few decades. How we get writing numbers, maths, physics and all the rest. From caveman to this? No way not in that short time.

I really hope that E.T.s exist but it just seems to me that if they had the technology to travel between galaxies or even just solar systems, they would have to be extremely advanced. I mean they would have to travel at the speed of light. That just sounds like a lot of work to go through just to enslave some humans.

I don't think you understand exactly the situation. They don't travel at the speed of light. They travel dimensionally. All they have to do is manipulate frequencies to go in and out of space through making use of the zero point energy field utilizing energy and gravitational forces as well as magnetism. They are beyond going really fast. But they can go in any direction at any speed and do right angles without stopping if they wanted. Including at the speed of light.

The so called "evil" ones are not looking to enslave. The war is on consciousnesses. They are looking to harvest the actual soul essence of a being and win them over to the "evil side" so they can 'recruit'.

We have the same potential as them and not far off from becoming like them. That's why they are so interested. It's like when you have a pet dog and you want to make it like you. You spend time competing with the other person so the dog likes you better.

The difference is how each side goes about it.

Jesus was an extra-terrestrial stunt from the good side. If you look at old paintings there is even UFOs in the background. Hitler was a pawn for the bad side. The magnitude of these events don't come up randomly out of the blue they are decisions made based on advanced astrology and other things on what theatrical event is needed in what time for what purpose, for what effect.

My concept of higher consciousness is based off of the budhist concept. Higher consciousness does not make things more complex, but rather it enables people to see life more simpley as it truly is. My personal experience is that increased intelligence is that as intelligence increases so does ones sense of responsibility. As intellegence increases one realizes that we all have far greater potential but we cannot achieve this potential as a species unless we all work together. not together against some evil species but just together as one.

And I'm not trying to say that ETs don't exist, just that they if they had come to this planet it would be to help us not hurt us. Imean if I could travel between dimensions I'm sure there'd be a lot cooler things to do then fight a war.

And I think the whole math, science and writing things comes from the limitless potential of our own conciousness. Writing and language are developed from our innermost drive to make connetctions with other souls. Math and science are just patterns wich over time we have been able to recognize.

By the way do you think the pyramids were created by aliens? I used to be real into the whole P-Funk mothership connection thing. But currently I think at some point in the past Human beings were more advanced, at least conciously. but I don't know. I find the whole subject very interesting and try to keep an open mind to all explanations.

Wow, this convo just got SO deep..interesting read.

well these so called "death camps" or "concentration camps" are mainly old military bases/buildings or old prisons that are no longer in operation anymore, plus the U.S. had concentration camps during WWII, i highly doubt FEMA is actually using these as "death camps" or what have you, someone is probably taking pictures of it and saying they are.

people create fake things all the time to manifest paranoia and fear among people, take people who make crop circles, etc. etc. this thing is just an attempt to try and make people paranoid.

Higher consciousness does not make things more complex, but rather it enables people to see life more simpley as it truly is.

I don't wish to try and speak about higher consiousness in words. It was a side note. I would be inviting an argument due to my lack of ability to use words to describe such a thing or principle. It was my mistake to mention it. Please don't start arguing with me that isn't the point of this. You have to understand though that simplicity can only exist with much complexity. You can't remove things from the equation if it's not appropriate. More complexity can provide benifits and this is the area I am mentioning. I didn't say it makes things confusing. This is not what I meant to say.

we cannot achieve this potential as a species unless we all work together. not together against some evil species but just together as one.

Two aspects of life. One involves conflict, another co-operation. White blood cells work in co-operation with the immune system to defeat bad bacteria. This is similar. I know what you're saying. Co-operation is a good thing to defeat division. But please don't under-estimate and throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you don't defeat the bad bacteria it will run a muck it's not suppose to thrive. Conflict can be a solution to stop the bacteria and prevent sickness and that is how you co-operate effectively for freedom.

if they had come to this planet it would be to help us not hurt us. I mean if I could travel between dimensions I'm sure there'd be a lot cooler things to do then fight a war.

You're going to have to remember life is not just cotton candy and everyone superior is here to help. It's a nice concept but enemies exist as well as friends.

And I think the whole math, science and writing things comes from the limitless potential of our own conciousness.

I'm talking about tracing the origins of things and then calculating it's development. It becomes obvious these things appeared suddenly. That's because those who already had the experience gave us the tools for varies reasons.

Math and science are just patterns wich over time we have been able to recognize.

That assumption is easy to make. And the easy way is usually the wrong way.
You don't know how exactly things have progressed. That's why history is so important to study. Most of our history is missing. The pyramids are just one example of things forgotten.

By the way do you think the pyramids were created by aliens?

Corresponding pyramids are on mars. We don't understand what they are for. They are not for us to live in. It's an energy system that is integrated into the universe for which purposes I am not certain but it involves communication and navigation, perhaps even of dimensional gateways of some sort. I believe they energy can easily be utilized for initiation of a human. Many people are said to have done that.

I used to be real into the whole P-Funk mothership connection thing.

Now you're just cruising on the P-Funk brother-ship thing. I'm all into the taking credit for the pyramids D-funk casual thing. But you got to remember we ain't B-funk enough to produce the A-funk accuracy with our wheel and cart F-funk unusually intelligent connection thing.

I find the whole subject very interesting and try to keep an open mind to all explanations.

I'm sure you'll find some very interesting connections if you keep the research real. If you don't believe ETs are here. Do a quick net search or visit the library and that should improve your insight right away. Both on the pyramids and aliens and how they connect.

Do you have any suggestions on where to look? I've done only a small amount of research in the subject of ETs but most of what I've found is very vague or completely ridiculous. I'd really love to find some solid evidence. Most of what I've seen are pictures and eyewitness acounts of UFOs. That and people claiming that they themselves are aliens, but these people have so ridiculous and conflicting stories. I guess the reason I find it hard to beleive that there are ETs on earth now is that I'm just biased into thinking that if ETs were able to travel here they would be beings of love, not of hate. But if they are here as you claim it would seem that I would have to be wrong, otherwise why wouldn't they reveal themselves? But if they are here to feed off of us like the cattle we seem to act like then this would make sense. I have heard about the pyramids on mars thing and I'll have to look into that, it sounds very interesting.

Do you think that the people who control the NWO are aliens, or do you think that they are aliens? Like, is David Rockefeller an alien, or have aliens used some kind of mind control on him? I really just think he is a very confused man who thinks he's actually doing something good for our species. I think he is just so blinded by greed and power that he thinks that the point of life is to gain as much material possesions as possible, and that people will be truly happy once he creates his Orwellian utopia.

Do you think the scientific advances were given to us by aliens or are people who made them, like Einstein, aliens themselves? I really think human beings could come across these discoveries on their own. Most people(myself included) don't live up to a hundreth of their potential. When they do you get people like Einstein and Nikola Tesla.

Also do you think that we currently live in a totalitiarian state? It seems to me that a lot of conspiracy theorists beleive that a totalitarian state is something that is coming in the future, like a one world fascist government or something. I thought this for a while but after reading Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and comparing it to how things currently are I fear that this is already our fate. The NWO already has complete control over people in america and europe. They condition the people using the media and the school system. I mean even smart people will beleive anything nowadays. Just look at 9-11. Regardless of weather the government was involved, they obviously did nothing to stop it. It was obviously a false flag attack so they could go to war in the middle east. And despite all this a lot of very intelligent people I know think nothing of it. The school system here in america is disgusting. The force kids from a young age to pledge allegience. If you don't you get in trouble. This is obvious brainwashing. Kids that young can't think for themselves.

Good questions and good post.

Do you have any suggestions on where to look?

In terms of evidence go to your newsagents. They will have magazines for your local area and sightings. They provide the information you need to verify. Will have articles on abduction etc.

If you are serious look into people like Jordan maxwell.

In term of the pyramids you really have to go to the library for that I don't know any off the top of my head. I only remember things I have picked on over the years of research but i don't keep all the sources in my pocket. The important thing for me is the information.

If you want solid evidence you'll find it. That's for certain. But you have to look seriously not as a Joke.

Do you think that the people who control the NWO are aliens, or do you think that they are aliens? Like, is David Rockefeller an alien, or have aliens used some kind of mind control on him?

This may frighten you, or you will laugh one or the other

People get replaced all the time. It's common for someone abducted to be threatened to do something, and if they don't a clone will replace them. Sometimes they let the clone live their life for a day to convince the person it works and they aren't bluffing. They can erase memory so that isn't a problem either. This is super super intelligent species. That is the average level of intelligence out there. The truth is out there. I can't stress enough how intelligent aliens are and how infant we are.

I can only just tell the difference between a clone and a natural person. It's extremely difficult. You have to be really sensitive. Then you figure out it's a clone. The weak spot you test is emotions. Clones imitate emotion. When you learn to tell the difference between an aura and real emotion, compared with artificial acting. You can get an idea that's it's a clone. Scary stuff when you know it's real but you have to deal with it. You begin to see the good ones too. Which is a relief.

You can't logically say "it's a clone". The only way you tell is emotional energy and lack of it. Even that is difficult to tell because it's imitated. Everything but the soul is basically there. So if you can know what a soul is in a person. Then you can pick out who doesn't have one.

Remember that you also have the good aliens placing their pieces on the board too. Wouldn't you place your pieces in the best position?

Yet you don't want to set up too many or it becomes obvious, doesn't it? Often a person is kept alive removed. Replaced with a clone. Put back again and memory falsely implanted before anyone suspects anything.

And you wonder how the NWO can be so illusively manipulative.

David Rockefeller. This kind of guy I don't know. All I know is that he is involved with a bloodline that has somehow this knowledge of how to keep the genetics and control their incarnations and carry on whatever they have been doing for years. At the least the family is involved with something that is a connection to the Nazi ETs.

Also you have the Nazi NWO. And the NWO of freedom which is basically just getting back to normal. Movies like transformers and matrix, hellboy, handcock. They come out every month just about these movies. All these are just like secret codes to us who know what the deal is. Like messages. It's not really about entertainment at all. Not the serious more important purpose of it. It's more preparation for changes.

Mind control is also used. There is movie coming out about what happens when they "choose you".

Some people are blinded by greed. But some people (seen batman?) just want to watch the world burn. They are beyond materiality. By that stage of intelligence they are already in contact with the Nazi ETs.

Most people(myself included) don't live up to a hundredth of their potential. When they do you get people like Einstein and Nikola Tesla.

Most people that smart do not waste time here because do you realize how boring everyone is? Have you being to a dating site lately?

But some have special things they have to do. If you find the public highly irritating you are most likely here because you have to do something that is evening out some other thing you regretted about something else. Now I'm getting into past life nonsense. But it's real there is no other way to explain it.

Tesla had an interesting unique part here. His potential is a spark of what we should be without genetic manipulation.

This planet is a prison. There is no other way to explain life on this planet. You have no access to the universe when you stay here. You are stuck until you die then you reflect on what you did in terms of love. It's a prison until we transform it and get the Nazi off our back.

Earth itself is an entity consiousness that we are part of dealing with all this but I'm going off topic. Earth no longer wishes to be a prison planet. That is what the alignment of 2012 is about.

That's what people like Alex Jones. David Icke and Wilcock all the other nuts are here for. To break the ice. Conspiracy theorists? That is just a new expertise.

You bring up a lot of important points. I just don't have time tonight.

If we would have been having this conversation 2 months ago I'd probubly complete agree with you, but I have recently discovered the true limitless power of the soul. Not to say that I've experienced it, but I've been doing a lot of reading.

I used to find life very boring and feel as if there was more to it than what I was currently experienceing. I have found that there is. There is more to existance then our physical bodies and our material universe. There is also the spiritual.

Our bodies are not really prisons but like vehicles for our selves to experience existance. And these are some damn good vehicles. Very comfortable, very beautiful, very complex vehicles. And because we have these nice vehicles we are ourselves afraid to let go of them. We feel that if we did not have our bodies we would have nothing. But this is just a trick set up by our minds to perpetuate human survival. All that we can truly have is the soul, the real self, whatever you wanna call the thing that is you deep down inside. Everything is just temporary. And quite temporary if you think of how short your life is compared with that of the earth.

We are currently stuck in a loop. That is to say our souls are. We have experienced life and we know that we like it. Most like it so much that they think that it is all there is. This is what I think causes reincarnation. When we die we are so scared about not being alive anymore that we seek out the first availiable chance to get back down to earth and live again. I think that if we realize what existance is we can accept death and transcend our bodies. Then we can freely travel throughout the universe. But we don't need to wait until death, there are ways for the soul to leave the body temporarily if one can become detached enough from "reality". This would be like an OBE.

You can access the universe, it is just extremely difficult. The only way I've even come close is by experimenting with pschedelic drugs. I don't know weather or not I would suggest this, as you really need to be in the right state of mind to fully do this. I've only become detached from my body once, and it was before I had any of this information. It was relatively horrific, because nothing else existed. I had recently done wrong to a close freind and felt as if I was completely alone within the universe. Right before this happened I went around asking people if they were actually real becasue I was sure that nothing else existed. Then i went to lay down, because I was really freaked out, and that s when everything disapeared. There was nothing but darkness, and my thoughts. even when I opened my eyes. It was truly terrifying. I felt as if all matter and energy no longer existed and i was just floating in space. I don't really know how long this lasted but it seemed like forever.

I have recently been researching a drug called DMT. It's created in your brain in your pineal gland, which is your 3rd eye. This drug apparently causes OBEs in high doses, when smoked or injected. People who have done the drug have claimed to experience something more real than reality.

DMT is released into the body at death. This is how I beleive the soul leaves the body.

I don't know how soon I will try this stuff. For one it's created in your brain and released as you dream, so I think if you gain enough control over your dreams you can actually have the experience for free, and not have to worry if someone just sold you some speed or something. I also think that you have to be able to have a great amount control over your mind, otherwise the experience will be too intense and you won't even remember it.

I'm not trying to say that you are wrong or that I've figured it all out. It's just that I'm begining to think that a lot of conspiracy theories are really just distractions to keep you from truly freeing your mind.

What do you think is going to happen in 2012? I've heard alot about it but most of it seems ridiculous. Like either the worlds gonna end, or we all gonna have mass telepathy and know the meaning of life. I just don't see how the end of the mayan calander means either of those. I don't think anything is gonna happen, it seems to me like another Y2K type thing.

I too am interested in DMT. Please make a note if you come across it/decide to try it...I'm trying it the second I can get my sticky little hands on it

Go to nelsons ledges in cleveland during a hookaville weekend. You could find some. But i wanna try it at home, lying down, or meditiating.

look i never said i completely agreed witht eh blogger jumping to conclusions. It is odd Though. Look up the secret congress meeting on youtube. APPARRENTLY there was discussion of a planned economic collapse, geared toward making people rioting. That is when they will track down insurgents. Maybe more BS i dunno. But just keep your eyes open just in case. plan for the best but prepare for the worst.

I heard about that. Sounds very possible. Thats what I've heard the FEMA camps are for. When the people riot, say they are a threat to the peace and declare marshall law. Then throw all the rioters in the "detention centers". That way these people will be detanies, not prisoners so then they can violate habius corpus or whatever.

I heard this might happen sometime before the 08 election so bush can call a state of emergency and stay in power, but I doubt they'd do that. People would get really pissed, but maybe thats what their going for. besides, they own mccain and obama so whats the point?

All I'm saying is reality is more than what it appears on the surface. Nature is self healing and self running so I agree nothing is wrong in that aspect.

Careful about taking drugs like DMT. If you don't prepare yourself or take too much or something goes wrong you can have a really bad trip and it can effect your life.

I've never taken any drugs like this but from what I've read it's got some serious potential to open your mind to reality.

ranma soon as you said you agreed I went even more crazy.

I'm always careful with drugs

Have had many bad trips - to the point where they no longer phase me. Perhaps this desensitisation is to my benefit? Oh well, off-topic (maybe)