Ugh.... Racism

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

Logic whacked out or not thats how it is..

I've spent plenty of time around "african-americans" especially around my age range. And that's how it is, honestly most don't care if you say nigga if you aren't being derogative or obviously hate mongering...

Unless you've hung out with those that aren't white, you really wouldn't have much of an understanding about their culture.

"Nigger" was a word used by slaveowners... Nigga is a slang term that most of the youth I've come across say on a daily basis..

To quote..

Nigga please...

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And what do you believe nigga came from? I believe it came from nigger, so I feel it means the same thing.

I have black friends that don't care if I say nigga around them, or nigger. They know I'm not racist, and that I'm fucking around when I say it. I just find it stupid for the black people, or any race for that matter, that get mad at racial slurs when they use the same slur themselves.

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

And what do you believe nigga came from? I believe it came from nigger, so I feel it means the same thing.

I have black friends that don't care if I say nigga around them, or nigger. They know I'm not racist, and that I'm fucking around when I say it. I just find it stupid for the black people, or any race for that matter, that get mad at racial slurs when they use the same slur themselves.

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Some will get pissed off, I guess thats what happens when someones ancestors are taken from their homes, shipped across the ocean locked up in ships and then enslaved for their entire lives.

Had some of our white ancestors not done that, I'm sure their would be no animosity.

Just because a word comes from another doesn't mean they have the same meaning, take a little look into the English language or any language for that matter over many years and words will have different meanings or connotations..

Pass me that fag, and a lighter.

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

And what do you believe nigga came from? I believe it came from nigger, so I feel it means the same thing.

I have black friends that don't care if I say nigga around them, or nigger. They know I'm not racist, and that I'm fucking around when I say it. I just find it stupid for the black people, or any race for that matter, that get mad at racial slurs when they use the same slur themselves.

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It's a huge difference, the word "nigger" is a racial slur, no matter how you look at it, that's just what it is. The word "nigga" on the other hand is a term of endearment used by most young african americans to acknowledge brother-hood amongst one another. The brotherhood term is not limited to only blacks, I've heard some blacks call some whites nigga. So in short, NO, they are not used in the same context no matter how similar the words looks.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

Some will get pissed off, I guess thats what happens when someones ancestors are taken from their homes, shipped across the ocean locked up in ships and then enslaved for their entire lives.

Had some of our white ancestors not done that, I'm sure their would be no animosity.

Just because a word comes from another doesn't mean they have the same meaning, take a little look into the English language or any language for that matter over many years and words will have different meanings or connotations..

Pass me that fag, and a lighter.

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That's true, but they could have very well refused to come and tried to kill the whities, even though it'd probably not do much good since they more than likely had guns compared to the African's spears, or whatever they would have had.

Mind you, blacks weren't the only people to be enslaved. There were white slaves too. :]

Yes, words can have different meanings like fag, and many others, but still nigga should be just as offensive as nigger. That's how I view it, and always will.

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Originally Posted by Ne-yo

It's a huge difference, the word "nigger" is a racial slur, no matter how you look at it, that's just what it is. The word "nigga" on the other hand is a term of endearment used by most young african americans to acknowledge brother-hood amongst one another. The brotherhood term is not limited to only blacks, I've heard some blacks call some whites nigga. So in short, NO, they are not used in the same context no matter how similar the words looks.

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Sorry, I just can't agree with you. :p

I believe nigga, and nigger, are one in the same, mean the same thing. They're both offensive.

Sure, people use "nigga" as slang and they say it means friend, or something similar, but still it comes from nigger. If nigger is a 100% racist slur, then nigga has to be a high percentage of a racist slur.

Honestly does it matter if you view the word as the same when the culture that owns the word doesn't agree with you?

If they use it among themselves, how offensive could it be?

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

I believe nigga, and nigger, are one in the same, mean the same thing. They're both offensive.

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How exactly are you offended by the word?

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

Sure, people use "nigga" as slang and they say it means friend, or something similar, but still it comes from nigger. If nigger is a 100% racist slur, then nigga has to be a high percentage of a racist slur.

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So if the inventors of the word say it's definitional term is slang and means friend you're going to dissregard it and draw your own meaning even when the source tells you otherwise?

Besides if you feel that way then you shouldn't use either word.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

Honestly does it matter if you view the word as the same when the culture that owns the word doesn't agree with you?

If they use it among themselves, how offensive could it be?

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No one owns a word to themselves. The argument for the reason nigger being offensive is that the weight it holds from the slavery days. If black people are going to call themselves niggers, then they shouldn't get mad when someone else does. The definition doesn't change just because it's coming out of their mouths.

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Originally Posted by Ne-yo

How exactly are you offended by the word?



So if the inventors of the word say it's definitional term is slang and means friend you're going to dissregard it and draw your own meaning even when the source tells you otherwise?

Besides if you feel that way then you shouldn't use either word.

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I don't get offended by any racial slur, I'm not ashamed of my skin color, and what happened in the past has no effect on my life. I don't use either word, unless I'm joking around with people.

I guess since people can change the definition though of words, if it originally came from them, I'm redefining nigger to mean friend.

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

No one owns a word to themselves. The argument for the reason nigger being offensive is that the weight it holds from the slavery days. If black people are going to call themselves niggers, then they shouldn't get mad when someone else does. The definition doesn't change just because it's coming out of their mouths.



I don't get offended by any racial slur, I'm not ashamed of my skin color, and what happened in the past has no effect on my life. I don't use either word, unless I'm joking around with people.

I guess since people can change the definition though of words, if it originally came from them, I'm redefining nigger to mean friend.

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You're just being silly, you yourself can't change the meaning of a word.. but when an entire race has it's own meaning to a word ... That's just how it is.


Black people don't call themselves niggers, they say nigga.. Get it straight..

Why are some people so innane to think that the word Nigga can't have a different meaning when the word fag in england has a different meaning than the word fag in America.

You aren't black, it's that simple. They will continue to use the word nigga to their friends.. Whether you think it's silly or impossible to change a words meaning or connotation.

They do own the word, it's always been used to describe them. For better or for worse, nigga, nigger has always been associated with those of black skin.

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Main Entry: nig·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈni-gər\
Function: noun
Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger
Date: 1786
1usually offensive; see usage paragraph below : a black person
2usually offensive; see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race
3: a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons <it's time for somebody to lead all of America's niggers…all the people who feel left out of the political process — Ron Dellums>
usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.

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Noun 1. nigga - (ethnic slur) extremely offensive name for a Black person; "only a Black can call another Black a nigga"

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Originally Posted by wiki

In practice, its use and meaning are heavily dependent on context.[1] Presently, the word nigga is used more liberally among younger members[2] of all races and ethnicities in the United States, although its use by persons not of African descent is still widely viewed as unacceptable and hostile, even when used without intentional prejudice. In addition to African Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, Latin Americans and European Americans[3][4] have adopted the term as part of their vernacular.

There is conflicting popular opinion on whether there is any meaningful difference between nigga and nigger as a spoken term.[5] Many people consider the terms to be equally pejorative, and the use of nigga both in and outside African American communities remains controversial.[6] H. Lewis Smith, author of Bury that Sucka: A Scandalous Affair with the N-word, believes that "replacing the 'er' with an 'a' changes nothing other than the pronunciation"[7] and the African American Registry notes, "Brother (Brotha) and Sister (Sistah or Sista) are terms of endearment. Nigger was and still is a word of disrespect."[8] The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, a civil rights group, condemns use of both nigga and nigger.[5]

Some African-Americans express considerable offense when referred to as a nigga by Caucasian people, but not if they are called the same by other African-Americans, or by some other minority, as a term of endearment.[5] In this case, the term may be seen either as a symbol of brotherhood,[9] similar to the usage of the words dude and bro, and its use outside a defined social group an unwelcome cultural appropriation. Critics have derided this as a double standard.[3]

The term "nigga, please", first used in the 1970s by comics such as Paul Mooney as "a funny punctuation in jokes about Blacks,"[10] is now heard routinely in comedy routines by African Americans. The growing use of the term is often attributed to its ubiquity in modern American hip hop music.[11][12] Examples include: hip-hop group Niggaz with Attitude (N.W.A.), A Tribe Called Quest's "Sucka Nigga", Notorious B.I.G.'s song, "The Realest Niggaz", The Geto Boys' "Real Negro Shit", Jay-Z's "Jigga That Nigga" and Snoop Dogg's "For All My Niggaz and Bitches". Ol' Dirty Bastard uses the term 76 times in his Nigga Please album (not including repetitions in choruses).[12] This is reflected in the term's wide use in modern American gang culture. According to a Texas Monthly article about Houston gangs, many Hispanic street gang members call each other niggah.[13]

However, its use has spread beyond North America. The Portuguese comedy show, Gato Fedorento, uses the word nigga in an audio sketch, where the four individuals say they are niggas ("I'm nigga, nigga; are you nigga, nigga?"), and end up admitting that they do not know what nigga means, although "people say it's amazing". Da Weasel later sang a song named "Nigga" in Gato Fedorento's last episode of season 5.

Chris Rock had a routine Niggas vs. Black People that distinguished a nigga, which he defined as a "low-expectation-having motherfucker", from a "black person". In contrast, Tupac Shakur in an interview in the documentary Tupac: Resurrection distinguished between nigger and nigga: "Niggers was the ones on the rope, hanging off the thing; niggas is the ones with gold ropes, hanging out at clubs."

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

You're just being silly, you yourself can't change the meaning of a word.. but when an entire race has it's own meaning to a word ... That's just how it is.


Black people don't call themselves niggers, they say nigga.. Get it straight..

Why are some people so innane to think that the word Nigga can't have a different meaning when the word fag in england has a different meaning than the word fag in America.

You aren't black, it's that simple. They will continue to use the word nigga to their friends.. Whether you think it's silly or impossible to change a words meaning or connotation.

They do own the word, it's always been used to describe them. For better or for worse, nigga, nigger has always been associated with those of black skin.

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You just told me earlier that the race that owns the word can change it, and whites came up with nigger, so I'm changing it to mean friend.


Lol. I don't even have to finish reading what you posted after:

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Noun 1. nigga - (ethnic slur) extremely offensive name for a Black person; "only a Black can call another Black a nigga"

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It says right there that it's offensive to black people, but only black people can say it, it even says it's a slur. Meaning to words don't change just because you want it to. Nigga means the same as nigger, it basically says it right there.

Argument settled.

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In practice, its use and meaning are heavily dependent on context.[1] Presently, the word nigga is used more liberally among younger members[2] of all races and ethnicities in the United States, although its use by persons not of African descent is still widely viewed as unacceptable and hostile, even when used without intentional prejudice.

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Yep, it even states it's offensive, unless it comes out of a black person's mouth. Once again, the meaning doesn't change. It obviously means the same thing as nigger.

Goodbye!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoSrKLTx_ao

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You just told me earlier that the race that owns the word can change it, and whites came up with nigger, so I'm changing it to mean friend.

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I didn't say the race that invented the word could change it, on the other hand the race that has always been attached to it..

Back when their were slaves, nigger was obviously derogatory and directed towards black slaves.
Now many years later, the word still floats around, some racist people use the word nigger in a bad way... But the majority of nigger and nigga is thrown around by african americans who are not using the word in the same manner as white slave owners..

So the word has two definitions if you will, it all depends on the situation and the location.

As if I said fag, you'd assume I was talking about a homosexual and not a cigarette.

You're just being childish with comments like that, well white people called black people niggers so I have the right to change the meaning, and if an entire race of people use the word for obvious different meaning I'll still argue that it means the same thing.

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It says right there that it's offensive to black people, but only black people can say it, it even says it's a slur. Meaning to words don't change just because you want it to. Nigga means the same as nigger, it basically says it right there.

Argument settled.

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Did I say Nigger lost its original meaning, no. I said the meaning has change, yes some people still use nigger negatively but the majority of the usage of the word nigger/nigga is not. Especially when used black to black.. like the end of the passage says..

"only a Black can call another Black a nigga"

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Yep, it even states it's offensive, unless it comes out of a black person's mouth. Once again, the meaning doesn't change. It obviously means the same thing as nigger.

Goodbye!

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Hey, take some English classes. Maybe a teacher will let you in on the secret that words can have multiple meanings.

Why would two black friends use the word nigga if they were using it in a negative manner. Logically that makes no sense, thus the definition of the word has changed.

Hello!

giving any race special privilege over a word to me is mind boggling in this day and age. If people want racial differences to be set aside then why the hell do they build up or even defend walls like this?

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Originally Posted by tkdyo

giving any race special privilege over a word to me is mind boggling in this day and age. If people want racial differences to be set aside then why the hell do they build up or even defend walls like this?

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Would white people not have special privilege over cracker?

If we all wanted to call each other crackers, would that mean we are being racist towards one another? I'd hazard to guess a no.


Breaking down racial walls is not forgetting who they are or where they come from but accepting all races as brothers. We have differences, we have similarities. We can never forget either of those, what we must do is work towards accepting each other for who we are.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

Would white people not have special privilege over cracker?

If we all wanted to call each other crackers, would that mean we are being racist towards one another? I'd hazard to guess a no.


Breaking down racial walls is not forgetting who they are or where they come from but accepting all races as brothers. We have differences, we have similarities. We can never forget either of those, what we must do is work towards accepting each other for who we are.

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Amen! We ARE different! But that's fine :)

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoSrKLTx_ao


I didn't say the race that invented the word could change it, on the other hand the race that has always been attached to it..

Back when their were slaves, nigger was obviously derogatory and directed towards black slaves.
Now many years later, the word still floats around, some racist people use the word nigger in a bad way... But the majority of nigger and nigga is thrown around by african americans who are not using the word in the same manner as white slave owners..

So the word has two definitions if you will, it all depends on the situation and the location.

As if I said fag, you'd assume I was talking about a homosexual and not a cigarette.

You're just being childish with comments like that, well white people called black people niggers so I have the right to change the meaning, and if an entire race of people use the word for obvious different meaning I'll still argue that it means the same thing.


Did I say Nigger lost its original meaning, no. I said the meaning has change, yes some people still use nigger negatively but the majority of the usage of the word nigger/nigga is not. Especially when used black to black.. like the end of the passage says..

"only a Black can call another Black a nigga"



Hey, take some English classes. Maybe a teacher will let you in on the secret that words can have multiple meanings.

Why would two black friends use the word nigga if they were using it in a negative manner. Logically that makes no sense, thus the definition of the word has changed.

Hello!

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Just because black people use the word "nigger," or "nigga" amongst themselves doesn't mean it loses its racism. It's still racist if it comes out of their mouths, but you obviously don't agree with that. There's only one definition for nigger, and it's racist.

Nigger was made to mean one thing, and that was a racist thing. You can't just up and change it 200 years later to something of your liking. That's like me saying that from now on "hello" means "nigger."

White people made the word nigger, they didn't give it multiple meanings.

Logically it makes no sense at all for blacks to use the word nigga and nigger since they take offense to it from anyone else other than themselves. If it's racist for anyone else to say it, it's racist for them to even say it.

Nigger is racist no matter what, nigga is the same as nigger. Many people replace 'er with 'a in today's society, sadly.

After 200 years of nigger being a racist slur, it doesn't lose it's racist meaning just because blacks want it to. It's still racist, and always will be racist, same with nigga. Even if it comes out of a black person's mouth.

If it's not racist for blacks to say it to one another, then it's no longer racist for anyone else to say it. If the word has multiple meanings, it applies to everyone, not just a specific group of people.

It makes no sense for a black person to call another a nigger, or nigga, unless they're proud their kind was once enslaved.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

Would white people not have special privilege over cracker?

If we all wanted to call each other crackers, would that mean we are being racist towards one another? I'd hazard to guess a no.

Breaking down racial walls is not forgetting who they are or where they come from but accepting all races as brothers. We have differences, we have similarities. We can never forget either of those, what we must do is work towards accepting each other for who we are.

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I've yet to meet a white person that takes offense to cracker, or honky, or any other white racist slur.

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

Just because black people use the word "nigger," or "nigga" amongst themselves doesn't mean it loses its racism. It's still racist if it comes out of their mouths, but you obviously don't agree with that. There's only one definition for nigger, and it's racist.

Nigger was made to mean one thing, and that was a racist thing. You can't just up and change it 200 years later to something of your liking. That's like me saying that from now on "hello" means "nigger."

White people made the word nigger, they didn't give it multiple meanings.

Logically it makes no sense at all for blacks to use the word nigga and nigger since they take offense to it from anyone else other than themselves. If it's racist for anyone else to say it, it's racist for them to even say it.

Nigger is racist no matter what, nigga is the same as nigger. Many people replace 'er with 'a in today's society, sadly.

After 200 years of nigger being a racist slur, it doesn't lose it's racist meaning just because blacks want it to. It's still racist, and always will be racist, same with nigga. Even if it comes out of a black person's mouth.

If it's not racist for blacks to say it to one another, then it's no longer racist for anyone else to say it. If the word has multiple meanings, it applies to everyone, not just a specific group of people.

It makes no sense for a black person to call another a nigger, or nigga, unless they're proud their kind was once enslaved.



I've yet to meet a white person that takes offense to cracker, or honky, or any other white racist slur.

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As I've already stated, go take an English class.. or go look at the progression of language and you will see that words change meanings all the time.

Words have meaning depending on context, but what you say may be taken out of context especially if the black person doesn't like white people already.

Anyone with any knowledge in language will know and easily understand what I'm saying is true. Words have multiple meanings, depends how they are being used.

I guarantee you their are many white people out their who would be very offended if a black person came up to them and called them a cracker.

You seem to think language is static, it is not.. Notice we don't all speak the same English as those in England... And you'll notice we don't speak Latin.

I don't often say this, but you are 100&#37; wrong with no wiggle room.

Go run around in the hood screaming nigger nigger nigger..

See what happens.

On the other hand, if you were black and screamed nigga nigga nigga.. Nothing would happen.

Your opinion on the use of the word does not matter, what matters is how it is actually used.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

As I've already stated, go take an English class.. or go look at the progression of language and you will see that words change meanings all the time.

Words have meaning depending on context, but what you say may be taken out of context especially if the black person doesn't like white people already.

Anyone with any knowledge in language will know and easily understand what I'm saying is true. Words have multiple meanings, depends how they are being used.

I guarantee you their are many white people out their who would be very offended if a black person came up to them and called them a cracker.

You seem to think language is static, it is not.. Notice we don't all speak the same English as those in England... And you'll notice we don't speak Latin.

I don't often say this, but you are 100&#37; wrong with no wiggle room.

Go run around in the hood screaming nigger nigger nigger..

See what happens.

On the other hand, if you were black and screamed nigga nigga nigga.. Nothing would happen.

Your opinion on the use of the word does not matter, what matters is how it is actually used.

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And as I've said, if the definition changes, it changes for all people, not just a certain group. You're dodging my statement and arguing that it's not true, even though you know it is true.

You're making blacks sound like a bunch of hypocrites.

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Originally Posted by justme

Discrimination is actions. Racism is ideas. Anytime anyone talks about stomping out any ideas is dangerous, even if those ideas are considered to be dangerous. Let people think what they want, can they even help that? Anyway, I guess u could say, a lot of people are racists agianst racists. But people being racist against blacks is different, those poor folks can't help if thier black. I said before, can people help what they believe?

Maybe if we all just share our feelings well feel better.
I am rascist against fat white women. Whenever I see them I think of them beating thier little kids at the local walmart.
Whose next? :D

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Aren't actions the result of Ideas? Always?
Racism is the stuff that starts civil wars, huge scale wars, genocides, slavery. Do you think Hitler and his Nazis just decided one day to discriminate the Jews and eventually mass-murder them without some form of twisted Ideology to have lead up to those inhumane decisions? Off course these actions arose from ideas; Pathologically sick, disturbed, destructive ideas.

Ideas aren't harmless. They mean everything. In fact they are the decisive factor for our actions.
And I am all in favor of stamping out destructive Ideologies that threaten the survival of human beings.
Any other Ideology is FINE with me. Clearly Racism is a destructive and severely injust ideology; The world would be a better place without it.

Islam is an ideology that can be heavenly good, or Demonicly Evil, Depending on who practices it. So it depends. Same for Christianity, Same for Juda&#239;sm...It depends. Non of these ideologies are PER S&#201; good or bad, constructive or destructive.

However I cannot say the same thing about Racism. Racism is always bad.
And the only effective way to fight it is from within.


An event that causes a global, universal, collective Ego-Death would in my eyes be the best thing that could happen to humanity and would, amongst other things, immediately get rid of the phenomenon Racism.

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Originally Posted by SKA

An event that causes a global, universal, collective Ego-Death would in my eyes be the best thing that could happen to humanity and would, amongst other things, immediately get rid of the phenomenon Racism.

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It's called everybody sitting down, shutting up, and not giving a damn about race anymore. The more attention you give the problem, the bigger it gets. You can't fight the cause by whacking the symptoms.

Just people, please, if you see someone being racist, sexist or prejudicial, don't shut up because you are their friend or whatever. Contest what they say. Accuse them of being racist and they will shut up immediately and learn their lesson.

Of course, I do not mean a harmless joke here in a while (I'm gay and I completely don't mind inoffensive gay jokes). Also, many people sometimes fear even saying the word "black" out loud, fearing sounding racist. I say, the more we do that, the more racist we are. We need to treat black and white skin, catholic or protestant, theist or atheist, monogamous or polygamous, liberal or conservative, gay or straight as something natural.

We should sticky this post somewhere +.+

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

And as I've said, if the definition changes, it changes for all people, not just a certain group. You're dodging my statement and arguing that it's not true, even though you know it is true.

You're making blacks sound like a bunch of hypocrites.

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I'm not dodging your statement, your statement is wrong.

WRONG.

I don't know it's true, because it's not.

I'm not dodging anything. You are wrong.

I've already addressed what you said with the running through the hood screaming nigga as a white person as compared to a black person.

So I guess it does change depending on who's saying it, and what context it's used in like I've said.. Just because you have no reading comprehension doesn't mean I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

I'm not dodging your statement, your statement is wrong.

WRONG.

I don't know it's true, because it's not.

I'm not dodging anything. You are wrong.

I've already addressed what you said with the running through the hood screaming nigga as a white person as compared to a black person.

So I guess it does change depending on who's saying it, and what context it's used in like I've said.. Just because you have no reading comprehension doesn't mean I agree with you.

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You're pretty dumb. I know exactly what you're saying, but you must not understand what I'm trying to tell you. Just because the word nigger, or nigga, is coming out of a black person's mouth doesn't mean it's lost all of it's racism. That's like telling me if some Preacher comes out and starts saying "FUCK," "SHIT," "BITCH," and every other swearing word possible is no longer a bad word since it comes out of a Preacher's mouth, pretty fucking stupid right? Same with your reasoning on nigga, and nigger, not being racist coming from a black person's mouth. The word NIGGER was made as a racist slur, and always will be. Nigga came from nigger, so it's racist also. The word NIGGER is RACIST no matter what. Even if nigger comes out of a black person's mouth, it'll always be racist. It started as something racist, means something racist, even if it comes out of a black person's mouth.

But, you can't comprehend what I'm saying, so I may as well give up, nigger.

When I called you a nigger I meant it in a friendly way, since apparently it means "friend" these days.

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Originally Posted by nitsuJ

You're pretty dumb. I know exactly what you're saying, but you must not understand what I'm trying to tell you. Just because the word nigger, or nigga, is coming out of a black person's mouth doesn't mean it's lost all of it's racism. That's like telling me if some Preacher comes out and starts saying "FUCK," "SHIT," "BITCH," and every other swearing word possible is no longer a bad word since it comes out of a Preacher's mouth, pretty fucking stupid right? Same with your reasoning on nigga, and nigger, not being racist coming from a black person's mouth. The word NIGGER was made as a racist slur, and always will be. Nigga came from nigger, so it's racist also. The word NIGGER is RACIST no matter what. Even if nigger comes out of a black person's mouth, it'll always be racist. It started as something racist, means something racist, even if it comes out of a black person's mouth.

But, you can't comprehend what I'm saying, so I may as well give up, nigger.

When I called you a nigger I meant it in a friendly way, since apparently it means "friend" these days.

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So I'm assuming your black and I'm black then?

The word nigger/nigga has different connotations depending what situation and who's using it.

Has nothing to do with a preacher saying BITCH, FUCK, SHIT, because all of the meanings of those words are either about going to the bathroom, having sex or insulting.. None of those words are used as terms of endearment between individuals.

You are just ignorant. To the progression of language.

It's not my reasoning, you seem to think this is my opinion. It's not opinion it is fact.

Blacks use Nigga towards each other and not in a negative way.. It's not up for debate, you are arguing with a well known fact.






It's not my damn fault you grew up in a white suburb community and have had no interaction with those of colored skin. Come back when you spend some time around african americans using the N word and tell me they are being negative towards each other.

Yo my Nigga - translates into Yo my slave in your world.. Just stupidity and lack of understanding of language and slang.

When someone says Chill out, I'm to assume chill, literally means get cold.

LANGUAGE IS NOT STATIC - What don't you understand? Yes Nigger/Nigga can be used negatively, but when used between two brothers they are not being racist.. And to assume or think they are is just pure stupidity, or you arguing just to save face and not admit your error.

The word Nigger isn't at all Racist. initially it's just a name of black people. It was MADE into a racist cuss-word. Really it just means "Black" in latin.

Jew isn't a Racist word either. But Racists have made it to be a Racist cuss word. Really "Jew" simply means a member of the Tribe of Judah; a people originating in the land of Judea, eastern Isra&#235;l/Western Jordania (nowadays known as the West-Bank)

I refuse to see the word "Nigger" or "Jew" as being racist, cause in my interpretation of these words they are simply names of ethnicities. Neither good nor bad.

America is so political correct(read; hypocritical) to taboo these words. Here in Holland people use the word "Neger" ( The Dutch equivalent of Nigger) and it isn't per s&#233; good or bad.
Over here it depends on the intention. Good: Eric: "Hey thank that friend of yours for giving me that great CD" Johnny: "Which one?" Eric:"That Nigger(Neger)" and over here that's no offense at all. Bad: Jan: "There's far too many Niggers in my neighborhood". So the word isn't per s&#233; negatively or positively loaded over here. It really depends.

Nigger, Jews, Chinks, Beaners, ect. ALL of these words are explicit, dirogative (spelling?) and just plain offensive to different races (Well, Jews is not really "offensive"). I am black and I do find Nigger offensive if used by a white person. But I have friends of all races and we tight like peas in a pod. :banana:

Another thing, "Terrorist" is kind of a racist term nowadays...

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Originally Posted by Cowmaster94

I am black and I do find Nigger offensive if used by a white person

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Who's being racist after all?

I don't mean to sound like a bitch, but that attitude is exactly what this thread criticises. Seeing all people from a certain race as racist is being racist too.

Of course you are allowed to hate someone if they really mean racism, but I don't understand why we can't use a word that means "black" in Latin.

I've been called white with a racist connotation various times - it doesn't mean I find anyone who calls me "white" racist.