And Motumz. Dont ever think that ecstacy is any more safe than acid. People have died from one single pill of ectasy. Theres all kinds of chems and drugs in a x pill. None of this shit is to be taken lightly. This is some very serious shit.
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And Motumz. Dont ever think that ecstacy is any more safe than acid. People have died from one single pill of ectasy. Theres all kinds of chems and drugs in a x pill. None of this shit is to be taken lightly. This is some very serious shit.
not if its a pure mdma pill. that shit is bomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elem3nt0
Ive never heard of any x pill being pure anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesLD
the purer the lsd the less visualistic it is in my opinion... that is unless you just take more of it.
the most visuals i have ever gotten were from bunk acid which was like hell basically.. sick visuals though.
p.s. its impossible to cut lsd with speed.
and it is possibly to get pure E it's called MDMA or "Molly" usually in a capsule with powder but can be pressed.
you can test a pill by the taste of it, ofcourse you have to know what molly tastes like. it's generally less bitter/tang.
Obviously taking a shit-load of LSD is not going to be good for you. Almost all of the arguments that people make for the illegalization of LSD stem from irresponsible idiots who don't know what they're doing and abuse it. I would say you should never take it more than 12 times a year at most. Taking it on a daily or even weekly basis is going to fry your brain.
LSD is not biologically harmful.. can definitely have detrimental psychological effects. can have equally opposite positive effects though too. use with caution :)
Well I don't take full doses of speed either. I cut it up and only give myself what I need, and so it doesn't effect my sleep. I'm kind of a slow person when it comes to school, so I use it illegally.. but not recreationally, er.. not for fun anyways.
But yea, I'll just half it I guess? I want to start light and then build up ya know? Just to be safe.
Not every brain. LSD basically just overstimulates the brain temporarily. Some brains can take it, some can't. Jon Fishman (Phish's drummer, one of my favorite musicians) took it every day of his senior year in high school. He claims he got his best grades that year. Then again, I know someone who broke into schizophrenia after one use. Its always a gamble, but hey, so is driving a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFantasy
then you have obviously done little research on the drug, and have probably never taken it. the active chemical in ecstasy is MDMA. though yes a lot of the time it is cut with other drugs, sometimes even meth. but it is possible to get an x pill that is pure mdma. and mdma is actually one of the least harmful drugs out thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Elem3nt0
Ive done it one time. it was extremely fun but the next two days i felt like absolute shit. I would be super hot, yet my skin would be extremely cold, things were just....weird. Like a really bad extended hangover. Ive been around it ALOT, i cant flat out tell you why, to protect myself, and for legal matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesLD
Every single one i have ever seen was always a mix of all different kinds of drugs, i would really like to know where to get some of this "MDMA"
most x pills are at least one part mdma and are mixed with other drugs. the pure mdma stuff has a really clean roll or "high" and there isnt a bad come down , its really amazing stuff. i guess you just gotta know the right people to get it and a good way to check if the pill is pure mdma you can look it up on pillreports.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Elem3nt0
Perhaps he took something that was only passed off as acid but was really god knows what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elem3nt0
From what I understand, a lot of acid sold these days isn't real LSD 25. People say that they went crazy from acid, but who knows what they were REALLY on? Perhaps it was acid, perhaps not. If it were legal to sell in stores, we would probably know the real dangers, and my bet is a lot less people would say that they "went crazy after taking acid".
Well most likely your friend either did it way too often. I myself take it every couple of months. Now I haven't taken it in more than a year. Some people take it 3 times a month or more which I would consider too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elem3nt0
Also your friend could have been taking lsd doses way too high at once. I myself know that 1/2 a blotter is "half a trip". A gentle but defenite psychedelic touch to an otherwise sober, normal day. Ad 1 whole blotter provides 1 full blown, deep psychedelic experience. I only once took 1 and 1/2 blotter. I couldn't stop laughing and found it hard to stay focussed on my actions. I found this dose to be a bit dissociating; My mind was wandering away from my physical body. Taking more than that could possibly be troublesome.
I prefer to stay aware and in control of my actions so allthough that experience was by no means troublesome, I prefer to keep my acid doses at maximally 1 hit.I've seen people take acid very irresponsibly; In messy, crowded, hectic enviroments, in much too high doses, in combination with cocaine, alcohol and/or speed. These people will eat and snort anything that passes along. They usually have serious issues which they refuse to face and resolve to begin with. I expect 70% of these people to be dead or in a psych ward before they're 40.
But I know many people that take LSD once a year or once every 6 months or so in a company of friends;
Fellow students. And fellow scientists. Psychologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists. Musicians and Painters.
Their LSD experiences yielded deeper understanding, deeper vision, less inhibited imagination which lead to new medicines, new ways of psychotherapy, study of the human psyche, magnificent stimulation of artistic inspiration for graphic art, literature, poetry, theatre and music, scientific and philosophical concept development. In simple words for these people, with this intent, LSD incredibly enhances our intelligence and intellect. By removing the barriers(Ego) between the Subconscious Intuition and the Conscious concrete knowledge, Intuition and knowledge are connected better and work together better.
So what that means is that what kind of an effect LSD has is completely decided by who takes it, in what dose/frequency and with what intent.
I've heard of pure MDMA. But uhhh, the ecstasy I'm trying to find is only speed based.
But by the way, there is only 2 deaths a year by ecstasy. They probably just took WAY to much and their heart just stopped.
I'll find a good dealer, cut it in half. Take a half, if I in fact feel good and want more, I will take the other half. Simple as that.
Also, if I ever do find pure MDMA, I would probably combine it with a half of a speed pill to start things off haha.
MDMA is a Shulgin creation. LSD is a Hofmann creation.
Both these chemists used their own substances. They did it wisely. Carefully dosed, in the right envroment, with a pure and clear intent. Didn't use it very frequently.
Both whave lived their lives as very succesfull, happy and stable people. Hofmann died at age 107 recently. Happy and Sane. He's been known to take LSD with his friends and fellow scientists every year. It never hurt him in any way. Only helped him.
Yah most ecstasy pills are little more than 10% actual MDMA and the rest is usually low grade speed and behavioral meds and god knows what. Molli is the street name for pure MDMA, which is the only form of it I would take or recommend taking.
By the way I knew Fishman did a lot of acid but I didn't know every day. If that's true, kudos to him, but I still say tripping everyday is way too much. Sick drummer though. I think Trey said Fishman when he was asked who was the best musician he ever had the honor to play with.
One of the very few drugs to cause effects in individuals egardless of consumption.
Wow 10%?... :? Fuck Ecstasy. I'll just keep looking till I find pure MDMA..Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFantasy
I experienced ego death on a very high does trip of mushrooms. probably one of the greatest moments in my life. it totally changed my life and made me a better person, and has pretty much shaped the rest of my life. ego death is not to be taken lightly though, it can be pretty intense, and if your not ready for it, it could be really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKA
my third eye was squeegeed clean!:D
i had that similar experience after a month of doing acid 3 times a week taking 1 - 5 hits at a time... afterwards i did not know what to think and it was like i pushed a reset button.. now i am much more aware, more profound, more in tune ki wise, and above all happy without relying upon stimuli to promote happiness. although for a while there i was very confused needed a lot of time to reorient. I have no regrets about it but now if i trip i only take 1 - 3 hits of liquid though... which is about the same as 1/2 to 1 dose of good blotter acid.
I was looking around and stumbled on a thread on another website saying LSD is hard to come by because it is intense when it comes to legal matters, and also it is very difficult to create. They made it seem like the Rolls Royce of drugs.
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Originally Posted by SKA
"LSD is a psychedelic drug which occasionally cases psychotic behavior in people who have NOT taken it."Quote:
Originally Posted by I U
hehe
Yeah he's unbelievable. He talks about it towards the end of this interview, pretty good read if you're interested. http://www.phisharchive.com/articles/1996/fishuk.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by MrFantasy
Yeah the government's really afraid of it. A friend of my roommate's got caught in New York City with 10 hits and got charged with, I shit you not, "conspiracy against the government". Luckily he had a decent lawyer and the judge took pity, but he still had to spend the next 8 months in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluemangroup
It can be hard to come by too. Its been around here for a while but now that I actually want some it seems to have all disappeared hehe.
Haha nice one, I'm gonna have to use that :lol:.Quote:
Originally Posted by dajo
I'd wait until you're a bit older to start drugs. At least 18, even though it's still bad for you because you're brain doesn't stop developing until like 22-24 or something.
If you try eccys you'll either not like it, or you might really like it and spend the next year or longer on it every weekend.
Def try E before acid. Just get a feel for something less intense first.
Your friend is probably crazy in the head because he abused the fuck out of drugs. Just like any drug if you take it enough, you're gonna be an airhead.
LSD is made up from house hold items including battery acid. That could be why it's also known as acid and why it's so cheap for such a long trip.
My mate bought some magic mushy's from Nimbin a couple of weeks ago and I'm waiting for a good oppertunity to try them. Can't wait for that!
But just be with people you trust when you take any drug, coz you could wig out on anything - you don't know how you will react if you haven't tried anything before.
COMPLETE BULL SHIT. How the hell did you even come up with that? Congratulations, you are a moron:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by bushi