So, guess what i just found out?

My girlfriend of almost 5 years revealed a secret to me today, and it was so monumental, it blew my mind with the force of a billion suns. i was talking to her about lucid dreams, and she didnt know what they were, so i explained, and she was said, "oh, i do that all the time."

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

apparently, she has like 5 re-occuring dreams, and never really strays from them, and every time she has one, she knows she is dreaming, because they have happened so often. she has lucids all the time. where as ive had like 5 in almost 6 years since joining these forums. i almost slit my goddamn wrists right there.

lol, that's rough

That sucks! Sounds like she's a natural. I have a couple friends that have lucids naturally too, and i'm so jealous!

I feel your pain. My girlfriend is the same way. She says she knows she's dreaming, but apparently she doesn't make much of an attempt to control and direct the dreams. I don't think she cares to try in the first place. But hey, I guess everyone's journey is different, right?

To be honest, I almost feel bad for these alleged "naturals" who don't take advantage of their luck. I've had to work my ass off for the lucid dreams I've acheived, but at least I can say That I've got some really amazing and memorable experiences out of it.

Funny how people are naturally lucid dreamers and yet don't know how epic that is. Of course reoccuring dreams may get boring after a while and if you get stab every night for a year or so without bleeding then of course that would become a giant dream sign. She said it herself that she only know she is dreaming because of the same dream. So she may not be a natural lucid dreamer, just a dreamer with a good dream sign.

You could help her out by getting rid of the reoccuring dreams if she want to get rid of them or just show her the forums so she can help others out.

I know what you mean me and my brother used to talk about our dreams each morning, my
dreams were short and brief often lacking detail where his were vast adventures with every
event and conversation recalled in vivid detail.
One day I told him about Lucid dreaming which he had not heard of the next morning he said I tried
that lucid dreaming last night it was quite fun.
lol

Feel your pain man. I grasp a lot of things easily, but LDing is definitely not one of them. It sucks.

............ wow

My fiancee still has absolutely no interest in lucid dreaming. I've been trying to get her into it for 15 years with no luck.

My sister said the same thing when I talked to her about LDing. Personally, I do not believe the people who so nonchalantly claim to LD all the time. I don't think they fully understand what it means to have a lucid dream. I know people who have been LDing their whole lives and they still get excited about it. For someone to just not care, to me, means they don't really understand.

yea, one of my friends says he knows he dreaming every dream, but i knew he was lying/ thinking something else.

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Originally Posted by nina

I do not believe the people who so nonchalantly claim to LD all the time. I don't think they fully understand what it means to have a lucid dream...
...For someone to just not care, to me, means they don't really understand.

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I agree 100%.

That's gotta be rough. Maybe you could learn a thing or two from her... lol

I actually just found this site today trying to figure out how to LD and realized I have done it all my life.
Once I get time I will type up some of my reoccurring dreams for you guys and hopefully start a journal to write down new ones I have.
I honestly always just thought that was how everyone dreamed.

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Originally Posted by Brittny

I actually just found this site today trying to figure out how to LD and realized I have done it all my life.
Once I get time I will type up some of my reoccurring dreams for you guys and hopefully start a journal to write down new ones I have.
I honestly always just thought that was how everyone dreamed.

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You are SO lucky you have no idea.

And yes, please do so... use that ability to ur advantage :P

I've naturally had excellent recall and I've always had vivid dreams all my life but I didn't even hear about lucid dreams until highschool. I didn't take it too seriously until last month, though. Since then, I've had 9 lucids, with only one so far this month. I've asked my husband if he wants to try lucid dreaming but he's too discouraged by his terrible recall. He's just happy when he gets the occasional vivid dream. I was actually a little surprised when he told me he doesn't remember most of his dreams.

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That's gotta be rough. Maybe you could learn a thing or two from her... lol

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maybe i could. she said her dreams are usually different versions of someone/some people chasing her, and that usually makes her realize she is dreaming. she told me one time when she realized she was dreaming, she just stopped running and thought it would be cool for a giant eagle to come and get her away from her pursuers, and one fucking came. not only does she have the most amazing, easily recognizable dream sign, but she can manipulate and control it pretty well too. and she doesn't like sleeping or dreaming.

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Originally Posted by Kezune

I've naturally had excellent recall and I've always had vivid dreams all my life but I didn't even hear about lucid dreams until highschool. I didn't take it too seriously until last month, though. Since then, I've had 9 lucids, with only one so far this month. I've asked my husband if he wants to try lucid dreaming but he's too discouraged by his terrible recall. He's just happy when he gets the occasional vivid dream. I was actually a little surprised when he told me he doesn't remember most of his dreams.

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My god, writing a journal turn me from a person who thought that he don't dream into one that get like 3-5 dreams per night.

Main reason why I came back, I need to regain my recall and the journal system here is great.

Every time I tell someone about lucid dreaming and they say they do it ALL THE TIME I either get angry or think they must not understand what I'm actually saying so I started making sure I got my point across properly and it turns out some of them think I meant that they realize they were dreaming while awake and don't confuse it with reality, which I don't understand why you would confuse it with reality except for right after waking up or if it was a really vivid dream. Or maybe they mean something else entirely, I'm not quite sure anymore and I'm not going to ask anyone else if they do it until I start doing it because it makes me angreh that so many people claim they can and do without interest.

"I'm a natural and I have been lucid dreaming all my life"

HHHHHhhhhnnnnnGGGGGG

I hate it when people can say that. 80% of the people on here work their asses off and you have a few naturals who come on and go "Oh yeah, well for me it's easy".

Confound you all, you naturals, confound you.

Well I guess...I can't say much. Different minds work differently.
Anyway, only a minority are naturals so don't get bothered about it. Just do what to know to increase the frequency.

hahah im sorry to hear that bro, that mus be very irritating haha

Jikes, that must have been tough. I envy you though. Being able to interrogate a natural Lucid Dreamer :mwahaha:

See it is basically the opposite for me. When ever I tell people about lucid dreaming they get really excited out of the possibilities and tell me they wish they could have lucid dreams. I try to help them, but it's like people in general don't have the drive to do something that seems so foreign. Because they have never experienced one they just don't understand the limitless possibilities.

I told two of my friends about it. I told them it's basically a dream where you become aware and can do anything. Literally anything. They seemed fairly interested when I spoke to them about it, but other than that, it's been completely forgotten, as far as I know.

It's like most people have a mental block like they were not supposed to be interested in this.

Surely if someone offered you a free world full of possibilities, that you could visit every night and still wake up fresh, and all it takes is a few months of even less of practice, wouldn't you listen?

I wonder why so many people don't...

Unfortunately I've never met anyone in RL that has had a lucid that they can recall. The 3 answers I get are 1. "I dont dream", 2. "I had a really bad nightmare and kept telling myself to wake up", 3. "I had a dream about having a dream". I suppose 2 could sort of count as you're obviously aware of your nightmare otherwise you wouldn't be willing yourself to wake up..

if you ever need a hug, i can find good gifs for you

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Unfortunately I've never met anyone in RL that has had a lucid that they can recall. The 3 answers I get are 1. "I dont dream", 2. "I had a really bad nightmare and kept telling myself to wake up", 3. "I had a dream about having a dream". I suppose 2 could sort of count as you're obviously aware of your nightmare otherwise you wouldn't be willing yourself to wake up..

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I have #2's a lot, do those count as LDs?? Mine are Demonic and Scary as freak sometimes and I'm almost always ending up trying to wake myself up.. I do have those normal LDs too a lot of the time but, I have more Nightmare LDs than normal LDs. I didn't know I had such a special gift.. I guess it's really envied around here :?. I mean, I have had LDs since I was like 10. I'm 14 now. I'm able to just do stuff in my dreams, whatever I felt like and I'm always aware that I am dreaming whether it's a scary nightmare or something nice. Something weird though, is that when I have nightmare LDs, I don't have the freedom I do in the peaceful ones.. I can't make the scary things go away and I can't leave the nightmare but, I'm almost always aware that I'm dreaming. I always try to wake myself up.. It's odd because it's the opposite when I'm in a non scary one, in a non scary one I have trouble keeping it, It's hard to not wake during a normal one.. The nightmares last longer, :roll:

Maybe because the nightmare ones really hold your attention, and the nice ones are fairly boring so you are not as focused?

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I told two of my friends about it. I told them it's basically a dream where you become aware and can do anything. Literally anything. They seemed fairly interested when I spoke to them about it, but other than that, it's been completely forgotten, as far as I know.

It's like most people have a mental block like they were not supposed to be interested in this.

Surely if someone offered you a free world full of possibilities, that you could visit every night and still wake up fresh, and all it takes is a few months of even less of practice, wouldn't you listen?

I wonder why so many people don't...

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I hear ya. It seems like our society doesn't value dreams much. Laberge stated this in an interview. He said that society treats dreams as trivial events to be forgotten. I was explaining to my sister, at a sushi bar, my first lucid dream where I attempted to fly. All of a sudden a couple across the bar started laughing at me. I suppose they thought I had either too big an imagination or was acting childish and should be embarrassed. I get the feeling after talking to other people that they think the same thing--that it's a waste of time. To each his own, I guess. Their loss.

This is appropriate because it was just a few days ago that I realised that there is no reason to be jealous of people that can do something better than you, even if it's almost without effort.

Instead of getting jealous, I have realised that it is much better to use these people as inspiration. And also competition or challenges.

If someone LD's every night, use that as inspiration and work towards also getting LD's every night.

If someone is amazing at maths and you are jealous, turn that in to inspiration, ask them for advice and figure out how they do it. Practice at it and become as good as them.

With anything, this works.

After you have gotten as good as that person at whatever it is, you will inevitably find someone else who is even better. Get inspired and get even better yourself.

Jealousy is defeat.

im not jealous of her, tommo. i was just flabbergasted that i have been living with a person for 5 years, and never knew that we had this in common, this thing that almost no one knows about. AND she is very proficient at it, its not like she is some noob. i find it amazing. but im still pissed off i never knew it before.

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im not jealous of her, tommo. i was just flabbergasted that i have been living with a person for 5 years, and never knew that we had this in common, this thing that almost no one knows about. AND she is very proficient at it, its not like she is some noob. i find it amazing. but im still pissed off i never knew it before.

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Oh ok. Well, I wasn't really specifically addressing you though either. More everyone who is like OMGZ I HATE THAT!!!!

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Originally Posted by nina

For someone to just not care, to me, means they don't really understand.

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I understand fully. My mom told me when i was little (around 3) that you can control your dreams if you want.

That's about as far back as i can remember, but i know before then i would realize i was dreaming. It's never been a BIG deal for me, and i didn't even know it wasn't possible for everyone to do easily until i asked a friend about it, and found these forums. Now, even though its not a big deal, i still get really happy when i have one, and enjoy playing around inside of my dreams. It never gets boring.

Jealousy is a natural reaction. It doesn't mean I despise those people, it's just the feeling you get, like when you are happy when you win something; it happens.

I can't really use them as inspiration though. If someone had started out like me, and worked up to an LD a night, then I would be inspired. But not inspired by someone who can just have them every night no sweat.

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Originally Posted by Origami

Jealousy is a natural reaction. It doesn't mean I despise those people, it's just the feeling you get, like when you are happy when you win something; it happens.

I can't really use them as inspiration though. If someone had started out like me, and worked up to an LD a night, then I would be inspired. But not inspired by someone who can just have them every night no sweat.

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Then you're doing it wrong. Inspiration is supposed to make you ask "how can I do that?"
You're supposed to find out what makes these people able to do it. That's how ADA came about and it is probably the most effective technique.

Yeah, but I can't think "How do they do that?" about naturals. They do it without effort, you can't learn that.
If someone started off just like me, and showed me it's possible to get a lucid a night, I would wonder how they did that.

They are two completely different things, I know how inspiration works.

So they just do it without a cause?
It just comes from nowhere?

No. There is always some reason.
they obviously think in a different way to most people.

Or their brain is wired a different way to most people. Like they could naturally pay more attention to their surroundings and spend less time day dreaming. This contributes to LDs, resulting in easier LDs. Now I wouldn't be able to do this naturally, but if someone else, like me did it, I could be inspired by them and ask them how they did it. They could help me, instead of just saying "I dunno, I do it all the time."

Become one of them then, through time.. Its possible from what I've seen here.

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Originally Posted by Tavasion

maybe i could. she said her dreams are usually different versions of someone/some people chasing her, and that usually makes her realize she is dreaming. she told me one time when she realized she was dreaming, she just stopped running and thought it would be cool for a giant eagle to come and get her away from her pursuers, and one fucking came. not only does she have the most amazing, easily recognizable dream sign, but she can manipulate and control it pretty well too. and she doesn't like sleeping or dreaming.

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That's pretty much how my dreams were when I was young and how I gained lucidity...fear is a powerful motivator.

EDIT: .....however I love sleeping

Gah, I have a friend just like that. Complete natural. He used to get a lucid almost every day, and still does pretty regularly (2-3/week). But every time I try and talk to him about it, he seems uninterested and doesn't ever cooperate.

Apparently he finds them annoying. WTF.

I work my ass off trying to get them. :bang:

Oh well PXUmais, at least you will eventually get loads of them, and be able to do what you want, while he will just ignore them and they will eventually fade from his mind and he won't use their full potential.

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Oh well PXUmais, at least you will eventually get loads of them, and be able to do what you want, while he will just ignore them and they will eventually fade from his mind and he won't use their full potential.

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I was kind of thinking that myself.

It's not exactly like he has the upper hand anyway. He might be getting them every night, but what difference does it make when he's not making use of them.

I feel sorry for him. :P

And that, my friend, is winning.