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Originally posted by burns91
So all the fossils and carbon dating (scientific evidence) is just a theory? Nice try, but no. It's actual tangible facts that proves that organisms on this earth have evolved and/or become extinct (long before the Bible says the world was created).
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When prominent biologists claim that \"evolution is a fact,\" they are stating a half-truth that means far less than what they would like the public to believe. The theory of evolution states that the development of life is a purely natural process, driven by known mechanisms. But this is simply not true. There is no evidence that life developed, or even could have developed, by a purely natural process.

Throughout the 1900's scientists continually studied the fossil records to try and determine if the theory of evolution was really the \"fact of evolution\". If the theory of evolution were fact, then the fossil records would clearly show the gradual transformations over long periods of time that Darwin spoke of. But despite intense research for over 150 years since the theory of evolution was proposed, no instances of a transitional form have been found in the fossil records. What the fossil records do show is each life form suddenly appearing, full blown, without any apparent relationship to what went before it. Why evolutionists look the other way and call this a lie is incredible.

Despite the fact that no facts have ever been produced making the \"Theory of Evolution\" the \"Fact of Evolution\", many people still blindly cling to it since they do not believe in creation and feel it is the best and only thing they have to go on.

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Originally posted by burns91
Getting into a debate with people who want to continue to believe what they will is pointless. I'm simply asking people to open their minds, don't get offended, and see that there could be a completely different beginning to the world as they were lead to believe in the past.

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This one gave me a good laugh.(nothing personal).
In the past there was the Church, which's authority couldn't have been questioned. And now we have the Science, which's authority can't be questioned. Is there a resemblance? Since You seem not to believe in Intelligent Design, why do you have to believe in the Theory? Seems to me more like jumping from one set of blind beliefs to another.
And, to be clear, I am not protecting the views of the creationists nor the views of the scientists - I'm against both of them. These two seemingly different things aren't different. Both are created in order to keep people's minds on something unquestionable.

i agree psychedelic. so cleary you take psychedelics? know wonder you know what the heck your talking about. jeez lol

by the way just incase anyone wanted to know. darwin died a creationist. he was just smart enough to come up with possibilities for how we got here and think outside the box. but that doesnt mean he has to believe it. i think up all kinds of possiblities in life about anything but dont believe half of them myself. anyway evolutionists expected cells to be very simple and once they zoomed in on them in recent years they found complex levels of gears and computerlike parts and something so complex u would shit yourself. yes going completely against the idea of accidental evolution. its easy to think evolution is a possibility when you know nothing about the makeup of life (the theorists of the past). science cannnt help but prove intelligent design. BTW how did we evolve into having sex organs? kinda proves evolution is impossible eh? get high and think about THAT.

you can still believe a supreme being created you and still do whatever you want in life. i dont believe he made a hell for us to die in afterward. if he did then he is a cruel bastard. but i doubt it heh. imagine being him . would u do that to your beloved creation? not me

the jews made up an idea of control and to make the world think they are gods people. yes so perfect they must cut their dicks off to change gods flaw of creation so they become the race with bigdicks? gimme a break thats a freakish thing and made up. i do appreciate it but dang dont try and say its because its GODS NEW DECREEE

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Originally posted by jay dawg
you can still believe a supreme being created you and still do whatever you want in life. i dont believe he made a hell for us to die in afterward. if he did then he is a cruel bastard. but i doubt it heh. imagine being him . would u do that to your beloved creation? not me

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It is NOT that God is a cruel bastard, but that some people are cruel bastards. Do you enjoy all of the injustice in the World? You do realize of course, that without laws and police and even organized Crime protecting us from Unorganized Crime, the World would be quite unbearable for Good People. There is such a thing as Barbarians who would gladly rape and pillage the entire Establishment. Indeed, you must know that some people, if they thought they would do better by one single gold candlestick, if every law and institution of order were to be suspended, that they would fervently wish for such chaos. What do you think of the industrialists and capitalists who consciously destroy the environment in order to puff their stock portfolios. What do you think of the bankers who have locked in 10% Unemployment Rates as the optimum level of desperation for the working classes? What do you think of arbitrary managers who abuse their authority for sex and corruption? What of simple thieves, bullies and rapers?

Without a Hell, all of these souls would get into Heaven. Heaven, where there is no Police, and no Organized Crime to protect us from the Unorganized Crime. In a heaven where there was no screening at the Gate, every soul would be at the mercy of those who we were hardly able to control and regulate here on earth.

The next time you are abused or victimized, THINK about what your Eternal Life would be if that predatory victimizer were allowed into Heaven, free to abuse, exploit and bother you for an Infinity of Time. and now you see you would LIKE THAT because it would mean that God isn't cruel.

You have some thinking to do about the Wisdom of God.

well said leo, but the bible cleary states that the smalest sin (such as lust or just feeling good) is as damnable as mass murder in gods eyes. if there is judgement and if it is truly fair then most of us wont go to hell. but the bible says most are going to hell and the way is wide. perhaps there will be a judgement of somekind and a purging afterwards for a time but the only person who could prolly find out is a truly enlightened soul who could prolly astral travel to the highest plane to find out ehh..... BTW much of the bible is made up of dreams from men seeking god, the light. the bible refers to these things as visions or night visions. basically we were probablly dealing with enlightened people who used drugs (not a bad thing unless youve been conditioned/brainwashed to think it is) and most likely lucid dreamt all the time. i believe the whole book of revelation is most likeley one big lucid dream. wheather or not from god is beyond me.

if anyones getting to heaven it is probablly monks or the amish. seriously

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Originally posted by jay dawg
O GOD LEO NOT MARY AGAIN!!
and thus the antichrist is born and his name is, THE CATHOLIC RELIGION. poo on u. you might have second thoughts on your religious stance if you knew secret organizations run them to control society. i wish religion was true but alas it is not, sadly. something made us but i doubt man knows yet who.

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I am fully aware of the splits and division within the Catholic Church. Christ Himself taught that there would be Weeds within the Wheat, so the existence of Evil and Corruption within the Church should come as no shocking surprise to anybody.

Indeed, the Existence of Evil within the Church may be something of a Spiritual Test that every person must confront and either Pass or Fail. You see, it is like Lucifer tempting Christ, or Satan inflicting Job. A Trap is set where Evil is packaged in the Form of a Religion. The Worthy Soul who has Discernment will see the trap and shun the lightly veiled Evil. But the Evil Soul will grab onto such Evil and congratulate himself that he finally found a Religion that acknowledges the inevitable evil and sinfulness inherent in the Human Soul. But just because Satan can contrive a Religion does not mean that God must endorce it.

So, yes, the Catholic church has its evil elements. But certainly the Religious Orders and all those in the Laity who worship the Blessed Virgin are entirely free of all such taint. If there is any Evil, let the Bishops, the Cardinals, and the new Rat Pope answer for it.

im sorry what does any of that have to do with what i just said leo lol

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Originally posted by jay dawg
im sorry what does any of that have to do with what i just said leo lol

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Should this not be what you should be asking yourself?

You made your scattered and inarticulate observation. What, did you use more than twenty or thirty ill chosen words?

So I did my best to find some meaning in that to which I replied. I did not suppose you would be happy with my response.

But since I tried to understand you, maybe you should apply the same courtesy toward me and make an effort to find some meaning in what I had to say.

yet there may be some natural limitations involved. I would not expect my cat to understand these philosophies. At a certain point we must concede that people can only understand what they are capable of understanding.

So at a certain point it must be a waste of time to attempt to tutor you up to my level.

yea sure it is. i understood what u said i just didnt see how it had ANYTHING to do with what i said thats all. im sure u will still come up with a way to make yourself seem smarter than anyone on these boards but we shall see

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Originally posted by jay dawg
yea sure it is. i understood what u said i just didnt see how it had ANYTHING to do with what i said thats all. im sure u will still come up with a way to make yourself seem smarter than anyone on these boards but we shall see

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You are talking in paradoxes. First you say you understood what I said, and then you say that you don't understand how what I said had anything to do with what you said. Now, it should have occurred to you, that if you DID understand what I said, then you WOULD HAVE understood the connection it had with what you had said.

so... if you can't even get through one sentence without contradicting yourself...

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Personally, I don't believe any of it. I seriously don't understand how people can simply ignore factual, tangible evidence of things like evolution and believe that everything started with Adam and Eve - how naive is that?[/b]

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Lol, Adam and Eve is a metaphor, ask any christian priest. All of the Bible's books are open for interpretatin. I think one should inform oneself a little before one starts to judge other people for their beliefs. I wouldn't start judging Hindus or Muslims for their beliefs if I didnt personally know them myself. Besides, you should know that catholicism and the vatican accept the THEORY of Evolution. They've accepted it for many years.

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Getting into a debate with people who want to continue to believe what they will is pointless.

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Yeah, you're totally right man :wink: