MILD visualization

So I am creating a new thread because my last one was too long and talked about too many things. :roll: From now on I will try to keep all my threads much more objective.


I have recently begun practicing MILD and am having an awful time with the visualizations. I usually can come up with sceneries (from dreams, movies, books and sheer imagination). The real problem is when I have to imagine myself exploring the scenery. It is very hard to manage all the new objects coming up, the changes of perspective, the new characters and so on. Even if I can imagine myself exploring the place, I usually lose the First Person and the visualization falls back to Third Person. I believe it happens because when you see a scene in third person, many things can be seen happening before you have to change the perspective.

I heard visualizing in First Person can help a great deal, as it is closer to what you would be doing in an actual dream. Any ideas on how to get better visualization skills?

Thanks to all :)

Hey there again. As I've just begun this Lucid Dreaming thing, I have many and many doubts. I try to look around the forum (I've read thousands of threads so far), but some doubts are very resilient. So expect hearing a lot from me for the next few days :p


I've come to realize that trying too hard can be counterproductive to LDs. I've also seen many people around here saying the very same thing, and saying that it is very usual for beginners to have LDs when they take a few days off.

So my question is this (and it may sound a little dumb to more experienced lucid dreamers): isn't MILD's mantras too much? I mean, it is 2-5 minutes saying and thinking the exact same thing. It is for sure a very effortful thing. However, I remember reading in ETWOLD that such efforts went very well with the MILD technic.

Well, that's it. It's something that really got me thinking. How do you feel about this?

So, analysing the first and only time I had an LD so far, I came to realize that I performed a WBTB by accident. More than that, I can also see it had some more unplanned MILD in it. I woke up, had breakfast, thought about watching the pilot episode of a new series, fantasized a little about the series' content, felt too tired and decided to go back to sleep. Then I had a lucid dream in wich I was a character of the mentioned series.

So I decided that combining WBTB with MILD would be a good starting point for me. My question is whether I should try to perform the MILD when going back to bed in the morning as part of the WBTB, or if besides that I should also perform MILD when going to bed for the first time at night. Do you guys think it matters at all? Or would doing that be too much MILD for just one night?

Thanks a lot, guys.

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Originally Posted by lucsande

So, analysing the first and only time I had an LD so far, I came to realize that I performed a WBTB by accident. More than that, I can also see it had some more unplanned MILD in it. I woke up, had breakfast, thought about watching the pilot episode of a new series, fantasized a little about the series' content, felt too tired and decided to go back to sleep. Then I had a lucid dream in wich I was a character of the mentioned series.

So I decided that combining WBTB with MILD would be a good starting point for me. My question is whether I should try to perform the MILD when going back to bed in the morning as part of the WBTB, or if besides that I should also perform MILD when going to bed for the first time at night. Do you guys think it matters at all? Or would doing that be too much MILD for just one night?

Thanks a lot, guys.

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I think it's best you do the WBTB + MILD. It may seem like it takes more effort, but it's going to prove to have more practical results for you. There's a Lucid Dreaming Survery somewhere that I'm too lazy to find, but generally, WBTB is king for combining other lucid dreaming techniques.

If you try to do a MILD before you sleep at night, its success depends on many factors, but generally, whatever mantra you decide to utilize before sleeping might get diluted into your subconscious, and things will be skewed. Also, how you go about saying the mantra might affect your success rate.

All I can say is, be specific in your mantra, and be practical in saying it as well.

Example:

"As I'm drifting to sleep, I am going to realize that I'm dreaming."

This implies that you're going to be aware if you condition yourself to that response for a few days or even a week rather than saying "I will have a lucid dream" (which is a bit too generalized and might make things more conflicting for your subconscious to process it all). Combine that with WBTB, the chances of it working if definitely augmented.


Hope this helps. :)

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You can still do the mantra before you sleep at night, and for the WBTB as well, might as well take advantage of the time.

Well, if anyone is also struggling with visualizations, here is a thread I have just found. It is insanely helpful: http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...fectively.html

Any other suggestions are still pretty welcome :p

*Merged all three threads.

Please ask all questions in the same thread if it's on the same subject instead of making a new thread for each question in the future :)

Hey! I think that the doing too much applies only to trying too muchat start without sufficient info. As long as techniques don't go against each other and you are doing them right, there is no problem. I would recommend only one or two new techniques at a time since you want to know which one was working to keep and refine.

Visualize in first person if your dreams are first person. Visualizing is great. I would check out that guide ^^^

I recommend visualizing 30 second portions of your previous dreams. Visualize yourself becoming lucid in that dream, stabilizing and go to your goal. Repeat.

I also recommend visualizing with RCs. When you RC visualize that it failed and what you would do at that point in your day.

When you do this, try and get the emotion of an LD (emotions translate well in dreams). Then try and suppress the excitement like you will in an LD.

Good luck! Any more questions just ask. :)

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*Merged all three threads.

Please ask all questions in the same thread if it's on the same subject instead of making a new thread for each question in the future

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Reality Checked the moment I saw it. hahahahahah. Alright, I will, then. It really is better like that. Sorry for flooding :p

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I also recommend visualizing with RCs. When you RC visualize that it failed and what you would do at that point in your day.

When you do this, try and get the emotion of an LD (emotions translate well in dreams). Then try and suppress the excitement like you will in an LD.

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Do you do it everytime? How many times a day do you usually RC, and how long would you tipically spend on those visualizations? Besides, do you really feel that these visualizations really raise the amount of LDs? I mean, has it been noticeable for you?

I am asking because I feel a little lazy just of thinking about all those visualizations. :P But it does seem like something like that could improve my motivation, besides giving more LD related stuff into my day (which is a good thing, since dreams can have so much to do with our daily experiences).

Well, my work is pretty much no brain functions going, so I just daydream most of the day. If you catch yourself daydreaming, try visualizing during that. Take yourself from where you are to the day dream. Some days I do it 10 times, sometimes I just do it all day long. Depends on how long it has been since I last LDed and how much I want one. I do it every night for about 20-30 minutes though. Just laying in bed fantasizing (you may call me a dreamer...) is really all it is, but I try to get the sensation of being lucid. If you know what a lucid dream feels like, this is good, because it is almost like having an LD and getting more exp for having one, without having one.

My mind kind of works like an RPG when I am looking at how to get good at things. I would recommend visualizing things like books that makes you want to lucid or movies. Here is a thread I made for lucid encouragement, but it can be used as a list of things that are good for visualizing as well.
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...uragement.html