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I got a pretty basic and fundamental question:
How do you get persistent lucid dreams?
Ive been trying over 5 months now without success:
Everyday dream journal
Trying diverce techniques like
WBTB + MILD
MILD
DILD
FILD
I would like to try WILD but am kind of afraid for the hallucinations
The only thing I havent been doing is a lot of reality checks,
Are reality checks really that important?
Reality checks are just a technique used to attained a DILD, just like MILD is.Quote:
The only thing I havent been doing is a lot of reality checks,
Are reality checks really that important?
Hypnagogic hallucinations are not felt by everyone or with the same intensity, and are different from what you'd portrait as a "psychotic episode". WILD is much more like falling asleep than what people make it seem.Quote:
I would like to try WILD but am kind of afraid for the hallucinations
2 Lucid dreams in 5 months is a clear indication you're missing a key ingredient there. Give us as much information as you can and be honest, if you're doing 1 reality check or writing a word in your DJ 2 or 3 times a week you won't be able to attain very good results in lucid dreaming. The good news is that it's perfectly possible to attain a high lucid dreaming frequency with any of the techniques you described above :)Quote:
Ive been trying over 5 months now without success:
Reality checks ive virtually never doneQuote:
Originally Posted by Zoth
Ive been keeping a big dream journal on paper (daily!), mostly half a page till a whole page of an A4 paper format.
Ps, a friend 'we' know knows Tony Buzan the maker of the Mind map : P although im not a big fan of the mind map :disconcerted:
I, too have had very few LDs since learning about it in September. I'd like to know what I'm not doing. I keep a DJ, do RCs to an hourly bell on my phone, MILD, drink apple juice, then water at bedtime; I'm open to doing what I need to get lucid more often. I'm on DV daily reading and learning and I've read EWOLD and other books. I'd appreciate any help. And I have a buddy this month which has been great!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoth
You are not alone. I want the same thing...more LDs!
Reality checks in my book are critical. How do you expect to realize you are dreaming, when during a dream it seems as real as reality? If you don't question your reality when awake you won't when asleep. You are skipping the most important ingredient.... or at least one of the foundations.
If you want lucid dreams extremely often, as in multiple Lucid Dreams every night, then I suggest to you the lucid mindset: Self Awareness. I am currently practicing self awareness myself again after getting distracted a while back. Before I quit, I was really good at self awareness. I had been practicing it for over a month and every night, at least half of my dreams in REM were lucid. Give it a shot. I also mix in DILD with self awareness, a great combo IMO.
One thing though: any technique will lose its effectiveness if you practice it to the point where it stresses you out. That works against you. Never stress out and always know that with practice you will get better even if it will take a few weeks. Time passes, so never give up just because how long something will take.
Depends what you are looking for. Want weekly or bi-weekly lucids?
Consistency, brain hacking, and dedication as well as discipline.
Looking for nightly, strong, vivid lucid dreams?
Complete change in life style, diet (kinda iffy on this one...), and all of the above.
What exactly are you doing for WBTB? I know everyone is different but that works almost every time for me and I very rarely become lucid just regular DILD. Are you at least having really vivid dreams WBTB? I would recommend taking a full hour and then going back to sleep if you haven't tried that yet. It seems to work better than just 20-30 mins at least for me. After an hour up you will probably be so awake that it's more like a WILD.
If I WBTB to mostly cant remember my dreams. (i've noticed the last month my dream recall is pretty bad compared to months before where I had whole pages written full)Quote:
Originally Posted by robertcox88
Anways, this would be my WBTB routine:
Alarm 6 hours ahead (I randomly got awake after 6 hours a few times so I kind of know when to set the alarm)
Sleep and do MILD
Wake up, get out of bed, turn light on and read
Stay awake for 30 mins (although I noticed my best attempt was 1 Hour, but kind of unhandy if you got to wake up in the morning)
Do MILD again
Hmmm... usually diversifying techniques isn't good. It is better to stay on the same technique and tweak it towards lucidity rather than change techniques.
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...s-secrets.html
Probably any questions you could have for me could be answered here.
Im going to stick with FILD, any tips?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensei
FILD? As in Finger induced or is there some new techniques going around?
It is fine to stick with a technique, but remember that it isn't a action that you are looking for, but it is a feeling. Think of it like a sport instead of some metaphysical or ethereal experience. If you ask a basketball player why he took a shot, he will say he "felt" it. I don't go to sleep at night until I "feel" it, and know that I am going to lucid dream. Remember that what you do doesn't get you lucid, who you are gets you lucid. ;)
I generally recommend people to have this as a base technique forever and just trim it down to be tailored to yourself, and add on new techniques you think might help you:
http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...technique.html
Thanks, that seems like a great tutorial, I'll be sure to try it for a few months, I mostly would think techniques didnt work if I wouldnt have any lucids in 1 week and I'd move on to another technique which wouldnt work after a week. Turns out that techniques need atleast a few months :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensei
The answer to this question can be found in three simple words: practice, practice, practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToukieToucan
But you also must practice helpful things! Everyone's already said this, but let me summarize: Do RC's, learn and adopt the fundamentals of LD'ing (self-awareness, memory, expectation/intention), and stick to one technique. For that one technique, I recommend going back to MILD, because when done correctly it helps get your head in the right place for DILD, WILD, and any techniques you might adopt later.
Also, there is nothing to fear in WILD; try not to take the crap written about the noise during the WILD transition too seriously. By the way, I believe FILD is a WILD/DEILD technique, so if you are practicing it, you are doing WILD's.
Good luck!