This question in know way is intended to be disturbing, gross, or disruptive to these forums. But anyways, does masturbation before going to sleep in any way affect lucid dreaming? -----sorry but ime serious----
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This question in know way is intended to be disturbing, gross, or disruptive to these forums. But anyways, does masturbation before going to sleep in any way affect lucid dreaming? -----sorry but ime serious----
I wouldn't think so. If anything I'd think you'd be more relaxed and able to concentrate - at least I am afterwards...oh, come one - everyone does it!
But maybe another guy should answer your question...
hahah, alrite the childish giggle is over.
In all seriousness I don't think there is any correlation between the two.
I think there is a correlation.
If one releases their load, there will be a decrease in the vividness of dream, proportional to how much is released.
If one masturbates, but retains their load, the more "energy" built up, the more vivid dreams will be. When the vividness of a dream increases, so does awareness, and possibility of lucidity.
Of course, not that many guys can start without finishing. Ladies :mrgreen: :?:
i think that masturbastion and/or great sex ( or even mediocre sex if that's all that;s available) are usually an aide to just about any endeavor, including varying degrees of consciousness, asleep or awake.
it helps quite a bit in terms of astral projection, it calms physical and mental energies that put you in a much better state to acieve the deep trance state aquaired for exiting your body
I'm interested too, is there any way to test if there is a correlation between this?
You fall asleep easier but I don't think it has an effect on Lucid Dreaming because of the time it takes to reach the longer REM phases.
Maybe if you do it in he morning and stop before the .. uhm ...... point of no return and then go back to sleep. That could cause some very nice dreams lucid or not.
So far my extensive research had no LD-related results worth mentioning.
again I have to say this is quite an interesting topic. A few of us should experiment with this and come back with the results.
It depends.
IF you are preoccupied with sexual thoughts, then its going to be a benefit: You're releasing that sexual tension.
However, it takes energy, and thus decreases your willpower. Etc.
Ahahah! Brave Burns :PQuote:
Originally posted by Burns
I wouldn't think so. If anything I'd think you'd be more relaxed and able to concentrate - at least I am afterwards...oh, come one - everyone does it!
But maybe another guy should answer your question...
for me it's exactly that way. never had a LD in a night when masturbed. (and i have to admit both happen relatively often)Quote:
Originally posted by TheStorm
However, it takes energy, and thus decreases your willpower. Etc.
i can't even fall asleep anymore without jerking off. unless i'm wasted. maybe thats a bad sign..
Lol, it is.Quote:
Originally posted by mongreloctopus
i can't even fall asleep anymore without jerking off. unless i'm wasted. maybe thats a bad sign..
Heh, that explains my dreams being so vivid, then. I don't get the whole ejaculation thingy, it lasts longer if you fight it.Quote:
Originally posted by metallica13596+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(metallica13596)</div>I had no problem lucid dreaming and I've masturbated every night since I was 13.Quote:
This question in know way is intended to be disturbing, gross, or disruptive to these forums. But anyways, does masturbation before going to sleep in any way affect lucid dreaming? -----sorry but ime serious----[/b]
*blushes*
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I think there is a correlation.
If one releases their load, there will be a decrease in the vividness of dream, proportional to how much is released.
If one masturbates, but retains their load, the more "energy" built up, the more vivid dreams will be. When the vividness of a dream increases, so does awareness, and possibility of lucidity.
Of course, not that many guys can start without finishing. Ladies :mrgreen: :?:
God, I never thought I was this honest.
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Originally posted by Burns
I wouldn't think so. If anything I'd think you'd be more relaxed and able to concentrate - at least I am afterwards...oh, come one - everyone does it!</span>
But maybe another guy should answer your question...
<span style="color:green"> :D -----> :vibes: I can read that burns.
It does relax most people.
The only effect that you may wish to consider is that if you are desiring to have a sexually oriented dream. This may relax those desires.
It may not matter too! :)
As above, so below, as below, so above. The idea is that you have different bodies, and they are reflections of each other. When you ejaculate, something leaves you physically, but (sexual) energy also leaves your energy body.Quote:
Originally posted by Identity X
I don't get the whole ejaculation thingy, it lasts longer if you fight it.
I am postulating that the more energy you have in you, the more vivid dreams will be. It's like your dream body's battery is extra charged, and does not have to run in low power mode when you have a surplus of energy.
Well, I'm 15, and I've been masturbating most nights since I was about 12 or 13. I've never noticed or even thought about it effecting my dream experience. I do get to sleep easier when I masturbate, it's like a weight being taken off my shoulders.
Possible experiment:
1. Do not masturbate close to bed time for a week (3+ hours maybe?) Record your dreams and rate their vividness from 1-10.
2. Now masturbate 1 hour away from bed time for a week, record your dreams and rate their vivdness from 1-10.
3. Masturbate and then immediately fall asleep, record your dreams and rate their vivdness 1-10.
4. Before sleep, begin masturbating, but do not finish; get close. Record your dreams and rate vividness 1-10.
If you can stand it, don't masturbate at all for a week and see what happens.
I won't tell since when I started masturbating.. but w/e
Lately it seems I just become more AWAKE after ejaculating. Maybe because i've been physically / mentally active and thus it removes the tiredness, I don't know. in the past it did use to make me tired.
I'm not sure how jerking off but not ejaculating would work, having sexual urges non-stop till you fall asleep seems more annoying for me, but who knows :P
However I would consider it a no-no if you become really tired after it, it would probably make you go into such a deep-sleep that it screws up your recall / lucidity, I don't know, just a guess.
New Acronym Suggestions:
MILD - Masturbation Induced Lucid Dream
WILD - Wank Induced Lucid Dream
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DAMMIT! They're already taken! Oh well, one thing's for certain... FILD will never be the same again.
Heheheheh. Seriously, though...
:wtf2: Ya reckon? Hrrrm.... okay, what the hell, I'm gonna go try. :oops:Quote:
Originally posted by Manifold_Time+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Manifold_Time)</div>Hey! This is actually a really good idea!!! Perhaps you should join the research team, and propose this as an experiment in the research forum? Cos, this would be VERY easy to test, and easy to get people involved in. Seriously, go post it, it's a fantastic idea!Quote:
Possible experiment:
1. Do not masturbate close to bed time for a week (3+ hours maybe?) Record your dreams and rate their vividness from 1-10.
2. Now masturbate 1 hour away from bed time for a week, record your dreams and rate their vivdness from 1-10.
3. Masturbate and then immediately fall asleep, record your dreams and rate their vivdness 1-10.
4. Before sleep, begin masturbating, but do not finish; get close. Record your dreams and rate vividness 1-10.
If you can stand it, don't masturbate at all for a week and see what happens.[/b]
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If one masturbates, but retains their load, the more "energy" built up, the more vivid dreams will be. When the vividness of a dream increases, so does awareness, and possibility of lucidity.
*sprong*!!! Dammit. I wish I was a female, for a day, even if it were just to find out whether it\'s... ehrm... better...Quote:
Originally posted by Burns+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Burns)</div><!--QuoteBegin-italianmonkeyQuote:
at least I am afterwards...oh, come one - everyone does it![/b]
for me it's exactly that way. never had a LD in a night when masturbed. (and i have to admit both happen relatively often)
I was going to give some tips, but that actually is pretty weird just contemplating what to type.Quote:
Originally posted by The Blue Meanie
:wtf2: Ya reckon? Hrrrm.... okay, what the hell, I'm gonna go try. :oops:
I will say this though, when I get closer to completely filling up with energy, whatever thoughts are going through my head seem to come alive and have some momentum. It feels like I am actually being consumed into the dream, and that feeling startles me. Then, the thoughts and dreamscape goes away.
I have had at least two full body orgasms where they actually sent me right into a dream state, where I was orgasming in the dream. Damn cool, especially since my body felt warm all over after the really short dreams ended. There have been plenty of other times where I have simply woke up and noticed a discontinuity. They happen without any warning except the dreamscapes swallowing me.
Damn. That sounds fun. Hrrrm. I don't get that. LOL. It takes me a while to fall asleep, whether or not I *ahem*, so, yah. And full-body orgasms... ehrm... can't say I get 'em. :(Quote:
Originally posted by Distant Clone
I have had at least two full body orgasms where they actually sent me right into a dream state, where I was orgasming in the dream. Damn cool, especially since my body felt warm all over after the really short dreams ended. There have been plenty of other times where I have simply woke up and noticed a discontinuity. They happen without any warning except the dreamscapes swallowing me.
It's not.Quote:
Originally posted by The Blue Meanie
*sprong*!!! Dammit. I wish I was a female, for a day, even if it were just to find out whether it\'s... ehrm... better...
O RLY? So, you've experienced it as a male, have you? Pffft. It's something that's pretty much impossible to prove either way, really.Quote:
Originally posted by Courtney
It's not.
Nope. But I'm pretty sure I'm right when I say that.
unless it's with me, of course :ohyahbaby:
:rolllaugh: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Dangeruss
unless it's with me, of course :ohyahbaby:
i might interest some to know that sex is intimately connected with lucid dreaming/astral travel/trance states in many esoteric traditions.
many of them view sexual energy as the most powerful energy naturally produced by the human body, and thus the most beneficial to transmute into higher forms...
this is often done by practicing pre-determined, controlled sexual actions, and usually prolonging, or avoiding orgasm completely.
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personally, i find that when i avoid sexual release for some time (3-21 days) my dreams become much more vivid...although i have never tried a long stint since i've learned LDing.
(hell, i recently quit smoking up to improve my dreamlife...if i didn't clean the pipes most evenings i'd never get to sleep :lol:)
Well, in case anyone is interested, I've started an experiment as part of the research team, using Manifold_Time's idea as a general starting point. So, if any of you want to take a look, and help, that would be fantastic:
Experiment - Masturbation/Sex: Effects on Recall, Vividity & Lucidity
The experiment is designed to investigate a lot of the issues raised in this thread, and hopefully come up with some useful results. So, yeah, stop by, have a read, and perhaps help in the research.
Dunno...I read somewhere that females experience 63% more of a sensation...Quote:
Originally posted by Courtney
Nope. But I'm pretty sure I'm right when I say that.
That seems like a LOT.
And also, girls seem to really feel good when they do it.
And it barely has an affect on me...Sex is overrated lol :lol:
I have a suggestion.
If you have any form of control, why not get the matsurbating done inside of the dream?
:wink:
After all, means you won't have to take any time out of your day!
Well it'd take some time to clean up the bed after...Quote:
Originally posted by FreshBrains
I have a suggestion.
If you have any form of control, why not get the matsurbating done inside of the dream?
:wink:
After all, means you won't have to take any time out of your day!
If you did have the control it wouldn't be masturbation, but rather sex. And yeah, nobody likes to clean up their bed after :P
If you have enough control then you won't have to clean the bed. Ejaculation and orgasm are seperate processes.
^^ Hurray. Yeah, I have had close calls in dreams where I could physically feel myself laying on my bed as my pelvic floor muscles clamped down so I would not make a mess.
for me, when im going to bed this is what happens: i read some random pages of EWLD, then i turn off the light and think "ok. tonight i won't jerk it, because whenever i jerk it i can't remember any dreams or have and LDs. oh well screw it." (jerking commences). As a result, im on a dry spell of... a long time :( . lol i have no self control. but ill try the expirament. and fail. i can't not do it for a week. i tried giving it up for lent and i lasted barely 14 hours.
Yeah kinda hard to relaxe if you need that release.Quote:
Originally posted by TheStorm
It depends.
IF you are preoccupied with sexual thoughts, then its going to be a benefit: You're releasing that sexual tension.
However, it takes energy, and thus decreases your willpower. Etc.