What good are lucid dreams?

I've got 68 people working on tasks in my group, including some who claimed before they joined to have super-powers of dreaming. But as soon as they joined, their powers suddenly vanished. Maybe that was just a coincidence, but I don't think so.

I've found that the people who talk about lucid dreaming on the Internet the most are not the ones who really can do it. The handful who are good at it are quiet and unassuming.

If you go by what people post, you'd never suspect which ones can actually do it.

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Originally Posted by Umbrella

Sensible things an umbrella would say concerning this thread:

- Arne saknussemm is not making a lot of sense

- It seems lseadragon was right about the fact that Caradon likes the apostrophe key a lot

- Some good reasons for lucid dreaming that aren't tied to lucid dreams directly include the fact that even normal dreams can be incredible stories which can teach the dreamer something about him/herself, and the fact that keeping a dream journal is a good start in fighting a lack of discipline.

Non-sensible things Rabindranath Tagor said concerning trees:

- "Trees are the earth’s endless effort to speak to the listening heaven."

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I know, my writing sucks.:?

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Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

I've got 68 people working on tasks in my group, including some who claimed before they joined to have super-powers of dreaming. But as soon as they joined, their powers suddenly vanished. Maybe that was just a coincidence, but I don't think so.

I've found that the people who talk about lucid dreaming on the Internet the most are not the ones who really can do it. The handful who are good at it are quiet and unassuming.

If you go by what people post, you'd never suspect which ones can actually do it.

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How would your group be any different? Wouldn't those same people just claim they completed the tasks in your group even if they were unable to?

And more importantly, for me at least -- what's so bad about trees?

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Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

I've got 68 people working on tasks in my group, including some who claimed before they joined to have super-powers of dreaming. But as soon as they joined, their powers suddenly vanished. Maybe that was just a coincidence, but I don't think so.

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Where is this group? I haven't looked for it yet.

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Originally Posted by arne saknussemm

I've found that the people who talk about lucid dreaming on the Internet the most are not the ones who really can do it. The handful who are good at it are quiet and unassuming. If you go by what people post, you'd never suspect which ones can actually do it.

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Oh, so as long as you don't talk about it you're a lucid God but, if you aren't afraid to talk about with others who are also into it then you're lying? Well, I'm glad we're all making up lies about what we do in our dreams just to impress people we'll never meet, and I thought I was the only one. At least we all found common ground as yarn spinners, cool! :rolleyes:

But seriously, I'm sure we could all find better things to lie about than the fantasy world of dreams.

And what's up with the trees? We're tired of asking. Either tell your theory or give it up. Or perhaps we can't handle the truth. Yeah, that's probably it.

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Originally Posted by Oneironaught

But seriously, I'm sure we could all find better things to lie about than the fantasy world of dreams.

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Really! Arne, I don't know why you think we are all pathological liars with such pitifully boring lives that we sit around and talk abut dreams that we didn't really have. Since I know what I can do in dreams, which is low to mid-level on the scale of lucid dream ability, I assume that there are others who are also having lucid dreams and not making up everything. If you haven't noticed, there's not really a lot of glory to be had in life for good dreaming ability; aside from a few people in this forum, I don't talk about this with anybody, because nobody I know IRL could really give a shit. Believe me, I'm "quiet and unassuming" most of the time about my dreams. I don't really consider it a "power", it's just an amusement or a curiosity or something interesting to think about, and which can which be developed with time and effort. There's just a few people who like to talk about it; luckily we can meet here to do it.

Arne, you say you don't believe that people can control dreams, right? (Despite the fact that some of us made trees walk? I'm just asking.) So why do you have a group that you assign tasks to? Do you like try to see if you can make them dream something in particular? I'm just wondering why you're doing it. Are your tasks like scientifically designed or something? Why would people lose their ability as soon as they try to do your tasks? That is not much incentive to join. If you don't tell people why you are doing it, why should they join your group? We do the tasks assigned here for fun, and to have a goal. I think it is fun to do things other than just what I think of, so why don't you give us a reason for doing your tasks?

I wish you would at least tell us if you are coming from a mystical viewpoint or something. At least I'd know not to bother. It seems like you must not be a good lucid dreamer, so you think no one else can do it either. Well I'm not the best, but since I can do it a little, I figure there are people who are better than me and who aren't lying about it.

Why don't you just start a thread here of your tasks, then we can decide if we want to do them or not? You haven't given any examples. Actually, I might join your group just to see what's going one, but I don't do well with computers and I'm lucky to be even doing this much. Maybe you explain it more there, but I don't know why you can't explain it here. Do you ever read the lucid task area here?

Oneironaught,and Moonbeam, thank you!
That statement was really anoying me! you put my feelings
into words exactly. I feel much better now.
after all, Talking about Lucid Dreaming is what Dream Views
is for. other wise why be here at all!

Arne, what constitutes a "real" task in your opinion? You have said all this stuff about people not being able to do your tasks, and so they cannot really control their dreams. But you've never told us what any of these tasks are. You'll probably say to join your yahoo group to find out. But I am not a particularly advanced lucid dreamer, and I don't get too many lucids anyway, so I would probably have no opportunity to complete your tasks.

So tell me, what are some of these tasks that nobody can complete?

And by the way, if your argument for your statement that nobody can control their dreams is that we're just dreaming of control without really having it; I ask you, wherein lies the difference?