The Matrix...is R-E-A-L

Okay guys...wrap your heads around this...(you matrix fans out there are gonna love this) Liken The Matrix unto lucid dreaming. Take the people who walk throughout the day...constantly in the work, school, home routine...they're the people who aren't unplugged...now take the people who come to DreamViews (but haven't registered yet) they can be likened unto people who are learning the truth but haven't been unplugged yet...(like how mr. anderson was when talking to morpheus on the phone for the first time). And the newly registered users of course are people who have been "unplugged". DreamViews has over 13,000 members (people who are unplugged) but only about 1,500 are active (the fighters of Zion, who seek to enhance their skills). DreamViews is Zion and the Agents? They're the dream walkers/night stalkers (we've all read that thread and if you haven't click the link http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...=dream+walkers). You can "unplug" your friends or anyone else by using the red pill blue pill speech (introducing them to lucid dreaming). So now beckons the big question...how do you JACK IN? How do you Enter the Matrix? Go to bed/couch/comfy chair and lucid dream...then, you would have entered the Matrix. How do you go to the matrix with your friends? You all should use Lucid Dreaming as a catapult to have an out of body experience and then ren-de-vouz. This world is fictional, the Matrix...is R-E-A-L

Disclaimer: This is lucid dreaming related so I didn't put it in senseless banter, nor am I a diehard matrix fan though i'm a fan of the movies. lol what do you guys think? :)

P.S. Zion mating dance on 9/13/07

P.S.S How do you become "The One"? By enhancing your LD skills and powers until you can LD at will. Anyone know any users around here that can do that? Neither do I but they exist...perhaps...maybe you, reader...will become "The One". ;)

Perfect Analogy! :goodjob2:

This is awesome man! Seriously awesome!

Sounds great =D Would be so cool if you could actually LD with friends. lol the best Multiplayer game ever. =P

Some believe you can ;) I had a coworker whose uncle was into OBE's and had been doing them for years (self-taught) and decided to teach his niece (my coworker) she learned it and became pretty proficient at it within a years time. She says her and her uncle always conversate in the astral realm/OBE realm and go on trips together. To confirm this wasn't all in her head, I asked her does she talk to her uncle on the phone afterwards or something to confirm all this and she not only said yes, but she also says if she wants to tell him something or vice versa, they'll visit each other in that realm and deliver valuable/highly important information...and the next day they'll act on that information i.e. drive to the bank and deposit my last check, afterwards pickup chinese food because i'm in the mood for chinese tonight. They have long drawn out conversations in that realm...she describes it as being no different from seeing each other in waking life. She also likes to travel fly/teleport to egypt and different places like hawaii, it's really cool. But you know there are others who don't believe in that kind of thing so regarding this matter, i'll quote Henry Ford, one of the world's most richest men in history, a leading visionary who never said the word "impossible", and also responsible for the development of the automobile and V-8 engine (at the time everyone thought breathing underwater or flying through the air without aid was more likely to happen the the development of a V-8 engine)...

"Whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right." - Henry Ford

Wow that sounds so fun. I want to learn more about OBE's now. Sounds like the most fun you can have in real life -ish.

I wish i had someone who was close enough that i could converse with them about lucid dreaming and OBE's and such and try to do this on my own! But alas i havnt met anyone i know in person who shares my passion!

Haha, that's good Oneironaut Jeff! :D

Hmm... Where's the smiley that's giving himself a lobotomy..? Oh well, this'll have to do.
:microwave:

that was a pretty interesting read. the only part that doesnt connect is being able to ld with friends... unless we could connect our brains like gameboys :D

http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/matrix/matrix.htm

Do you know how many people discovered lucid dreaming the night after watching The Matrix? This correlation is symbolic of the hobby, seriously!

I've seen Agent Smith in my lucids, and flown like Neo. Pretty fricken' sweet.

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

Okay guys...wrap your heads around this...(you matrix fans out there are gonna love this) Liken The Matrix unto lucid dreaming. Take the people who walk throughout the day...constantly in the work, school, home routine...they're the people who aren't unplugged...now take the people who come to DreamViews (but haven't registered yet) they can be likened unto people who are learning the truth but haven't been unplugged yet...(like how mr. anderson was when talking to morpheus on the phone for the first time). And the newly registered users of course are people who have been "unplugged". DreamViews has over 13,000 members (people who are unplugged) but only about 1,500 are active (the fighters of Zion, who seek to enhance their skills). DreamViews is Zion and the Agents? They're the dream walkers/night stalkers (we've all read that thread and if you haven't click the link http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...=dream+walkers). You can "unplug" your friends or anyone else by using the red pill blue pill speech (introducing them to lucid dreaming). So now beckons the big question...how do you JACK IN? How do you Enter the Matrix? Go to bed/couch/comfy chair and lucid dream...then, you would have entered the Matrix. How do you go to the matrix with your friends? You all should use Lucid Dreaming as a catapult to have an out of body experience and then ren-de-vouz. This world is fictional, the Matrix...is R-E-A-L

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Yeah, but...in the movie, wasnt the Matrix "fake" and Zion "real"? So, you mean that entering LD is like hanging out in Zion while waking life is the M, right?

While we're pondering possibilities - ponder this. Why wonder if shared dreaming is real or how to prove/accomplish it. We're all already in the shared dream. I hope you see the analogy to the points above.

So who is who? Seeker, Oneironaut ect... the One or Morpheus? Burns, Aquanina, ect. Trinity? Theres too many of us! :D

Such thoughts have occured to me, I've actually had lucid dreams where agent smith type characters chase me and I know if they catch me they will take a way my lucidity. And in many of my lucids I am followed or have the feeling that I'm being watched.

I don't know who would be who except Oneironaut would have to be Morpheus. Have you ever read his LD's. He's an amazing dreamer.

I had my best lucid the night after watching the matrix.

Weird.... but cool. i've never seen the matrix so I dont completely understand... i think i'm going to try to see it now.

another thing, I thought OOBEs weren't real. but I guess it's a matter of opinion if you've never done it before. For anyone who knows about OOBEs, are they like lucid dreaming? i dont know much about it.

Mark75 is gonna hate this.

I love the idea and everything but I'm confused :oops: how is this gonna work?

:lol: There's nothing to work, its just using The Matrix as an analogy for Lucid Dreaming, something many people use to describe Lucid Dreaming. This is just a lot more in depth :P

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So who is who? Seeker, Oneironaut ect... the One or Morpheus? Burns, Aquanina, ect. Trinity? Theres too many of us! :D

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Hmm, I don't think character names from the movie, such as morpheus, trinity, neo, ghost etc...matter much. Kind of like how the continuing saga of Matrix goes on online...everyone is pitching in and interacting with the matrix, everyone is important.

Thats how i was viewing it also, not as the actual movie but we are just players in the whole scheme, its a really cool thought!

brilliant. I love it.

We are all "neo" in our own matrix :)

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Originally Posted by Cammy

We are all "neo" in our own matrix :)

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Spot on Cammy! ;)

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

P.S.S How do you become "The One"? By enhancing your LD skills and powers until you can LD at will. Anyone know any users around here that can do that? Neither do I but they exist...perhaps...maybe you, reader...will become "The One". ;)

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I have been trying this new technique - and in the 3 nights trying it I had 8 lucid dreams, so I would like to think I am on the verge of being able to LD at will :D

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I have been trying this new technique - and in the 3 nights trying it I had 8 lucid dreams, so I would like to think I am on the verge of being able to LD at will :D

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Wow. Could "The One" be among us? Could the prophecy be correct? :shock::eek:

We will soon find out.... Dum dum duuuuuuuuum...

lol, spot on cammy!

on the question how to become "The One". Well Neo in the matrix is sort of the Chosen one to liberate all people's minds from this illusionairy materialistic reality; Pretty much a fictional take on a suject that is the reality of this world. To be "The Lucid One" you would have to have skill enough to LD at will and have full controll, master time dillation and have the ability to enter other mind's (friends') dreams and awaken&liberate them too.

At least that is what I, eventually seek to accomplish.

In the Special Features using the DVD as either a CD-rom or just as a DVD there's some commentary on the matrix and the dream world. I just never actually equated it specifically with dreamviews members. Good analogy!

Ps.--As you can probably tell, I'm an avid matrix fan.:D

wow i have never put it this way

hhhmmmm.....I dont know. How do go in the "matrix", by OBE. But not everyone will be in a universal dream, but just those who can OBE together. And this world isn't anything, huh, the dream world is the matrix. Its like a matrix within a matrix. I'm sorry, I keep finding loop holes in your theory. I want to believe it though, sounds like fun, just the thought of creatiing a Dreamviews Matrix sound great, but too bad its just a....heh.... a dream.

lol just read first post on this thats funny cause i use the name theone frequently its my hotmail address (kinda :dancingcow: ) but im not to good at lucid dreaming...

but wasn't no at the start, at controling and junk...

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on the question how to become "The One". Well Neo in the matrix is sort of the Chosen one to liberate all people's minds from this illusionairy materialistic reality; Pretty much a fictional take on a suject that is the reality of this world. To be "The Lucid One" you would have to have skill enough to LD at will and have full controll, master time dillation and have the ability to enter other mind's (friends') dreams and awaken&liberate them too.

At least that is what I, eventually seek to accomplish.

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I like the way you put that..."The lucid one can LD at will, have full control, is a master of time diallation, and can enter others minds and awaken them"...that's intense...

That would be a freakin awesome multiplayer game!

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Sounds great =D Would be so cool if you could actually LD with friends. lol the best Multiplayer game ever. =P

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That would be a freakin awesome multiplayer game!

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Would be? It IS. ;)

hey...i can finally have :hump: with Trinity :D:D:D:D she's so hot :D !!!

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

Okay guys...wrap your heads around this...(you matrix fans out there are gonna love this) Liken The Matrix unto lucid dreaming...

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Yup, that's the way I've looked at it, since seeing the movie. It's a perfect analogy, as ExoByte said. :goodjob2:

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Originally Posted by Vex Kitten

I don't know who would be who except Oneironaut would have to be Morpheus. Have you ever read his LD's. He's an amazing dreamer.

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Haha. Thanks, Vex!


Remember:
I could only show you the door.
You're the one that has to walk through it. :meditate:
Lol.

Woah. Hehe I call being Morpheus, he's majorly cewl.

*flies off in slow-mo*

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http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/matrix/matrix.htm

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Great link :D

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I don't know who would be who except Oneironaut would have to be Morpheus. Have you ever read his LD's. He's an amazing dreamer.

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Yes, he is. He has some really detailed, intense action scenes going on in there.

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...another thing, I thought OOBEs weren't real. but I guess it's a matter of opinion if you've never done it before. For anyone who knows about OOBEs, are they like lucid dreaming? i dont know much about it.

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Many people believe that OBEs are only another breed of lucid dream. They believe the main difference is that the one experiencing it believes it to be reality, instead of understanding it to be a dream-like experience. But the intensity and vividness seems so much more stark than in external reality, much like the contrast between a normal dream and a lucid dream. Those are the people I agree with.

And, Oneironaut, I just saw your new sig. I like it. I recognise at least one of your characters from your art thread. Nice work :thumbup:

Heya,

Funny, the way I saw the original movie, back when it came out, basically Neo spends the entire movie long struggling in his dream with some low level awareness, until right at the end he finally becomes "Lucid".

Unfortunatley, then they made two other movies and our Neo promptly loses Lucidity again to end up in a dream where the only thing he has are a few special powers, but a complete lack of awareness again.

In short, he's completely new at this entire lucid thing and doesn't really have a clue :)


-Redrivertears-

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Great link :D
And, Oneironaut, I just saw your new sig. I like it. I recognise at least one of your characters from your art thread. Nice work :thumbup:

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Thanks, gh!
I think I'm going to change the font, when I get home, though. All of the fonts on photoshop suck, so I wanna find something better to put my name in. :wink:

Im a great FAN of Matrix . AND I LOVE THIS

I think we should try and have a giant "multi-player" game while lucid and out of body, of course the only pre-requisite to enter the game is you have to be pretty good at ld'ing and you have to believe in OBE's :) Whose in? ;)

It's official..."The 'Lucid' One" would have the abilities/skills which are...(but not limited to):

* Dream Time Dilation - (Able to stay in the dream from seconds to years if s/he chooses)
* Dream Sharing/Walking - (Able to walk into others dreams and let them know they're dreaming/free their minds)
* Full mastery of Lucid Dreaming - (Able to connect with his/her subconscious focus at will allowing him/her to LD at will)
* Full mastery of Dream powers - (What "The 'Lucid' One" can/will do would make Neo look like a punk)

I too have thought about the Matrix when considering LD. Although, I'd be more inclined to think that the dreamworld itself could be compared to being in the Matrix. Although there aren't people wandering around in the dreamworld believing it to be real, I wonder if the Matrix, and the ability to control the world around you, was actually based on lucid dreaming.

Don't get me started on the third movie though, where Neo can control the real world too? Pah!

WOW. I mean WOW. Brillant idealogy! I love the Matrix, hence my name. When i first came here i posted a topic about "Dreamhacking", my view on lucid dreaming is just like hacking the matrix.

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Originally Posted by Cammy

We are all "neo" in our own matrix :)

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now THAT is the best analogy I have heard yet, reality only exists to the eye of the beholder, so we are what we make ourselves to be

=')