YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I Finally mastered Lucid Dreaming!!!!!! UPDATE!

FINALLY!

After 6 months of trying I can now have lucid dreams at will!!!!!

I wanted to make sure it wasn't a fluke so i didn't write this after my first try, Ive had 3-4 lucid dreams each night for the last 7 days using this technique.

This technique is very easy to do, and is a great way to have Lucid dreams at will.

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1. You need at least 5 hours of sleep

2. You must wake up in an REM break (a brief awakenings during the night)

3. You should feel tired, and feel as if you can go back to sleep easily

4. Just lay there in bed with your eyes closed as if your going back to sleep

5. Now imagine a dream scenario and being in there. You should have a good idea what your scenario looks like.

For best results your dream scenario should be somewhere your very familiar with like your backyard, street, school, workplace etc.

Also you should do a simple task like just walking. If you try flying or something like that it will be harder.

An example would be walking along your street during the day.

6. You should be imagining your dream scenario for about 20-30 seconds than go on to step 7

7. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT Now imagine seeing a Dream Character and telling them your dreaming.

Example “Im gonna have a lucid dream soon!!! This is just a dream! None of this is real! What do you want me to do to prove to you that where dreaming?”

Do something simple to prove to your Dream Character your dreaming, like making a dog or car appear.

Note: You shouldn't immediately talk to your Dream Character once you start imagining your Dream scenario (this is where most people screw up) you should walk around your dream scenario for a while (this gets you really close to the transition from imagining to actually having a Lucid Dream)

The reason you have to talk to a Dream Character is that if you don't you will end up losing consciousness as your mind transitions from imagining to dreaming. This technique is basically a WILD.

Basically you have to pretend that your having a lucid dream and it will eventually become a real lucid dream and by the time it transitions you’ll know that your no longer pretending and that your actually having a Lucid Dream.

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I guarantee this will work for ANYONE!!!!!!!

you will probably have a Lucid Dream on your first night!!

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Originally Posted by westonci

FINALLY!

After 6 months of trying I can now have lucid dreams at will!!!!!

I wanted to make sure it wasn't a fluke so i didn't write this after my first try, Ive had 3-4 lucid dreams each night for the last 7 days using this technique.

This technique is very easy to do, and is a great way to have Lucid dreams at will.

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1. You need at least 5 hours of sleep

2. You must wake up in an REM break

3. You should feel tired, and feel as if you can go back to sleep easily

4. Just lay there in bed with your eyes closed as if your going back to sleep

5. Now imagine a dream scenario and being in there. You should have a idea what your scenario looks like.

For best results your dream scenario should be somewhere your very familiar with like your backyard, street, school, workplace etc.

Also you should do a simple task like just walking. If you try flying or something like that it will be harder.

An example would be walking along your street during the day.

6. You should be imagining your dream scenario for about 20-30 seconds than go on to step 7

7. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT Now imagine seeing a Dream Character and telling them your dreaming.

Example “Hey XYZ this is all a dream, where just dreaming!!! None of this is real! What do you want me to do to prove to you that where dreaming?”

Do something simple to prove to your Dream Character your dreaming, like making a dog or car appear.

Note: You shouldn't immediately talk to your Dream Character once you start imagining your Dream scenario (this is where most people screw up) you should walk around your dream scenario for a while (this gets you really close to the transition from imagining to actually having a Lucid Dream)

The reason you have to talk to a Dream Character is that if you don't you will end up losing consciousness as your mind transitions from imagining to dreaming. This technique is basically a WILD.

Basically you have to pretend that your having a lucid dream and it will eventually become a real lucid dream and by the time it transitions you’ll know that your no longer pretending and that your actually having a Lucid Dream.

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I guarantee this will work for ANYONE!!!!!!!

you will probably have a Lucid Dream on your first night!!

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Congrats but...you could have just edited your initial thread instead of creating a new one... o.O

yes, how do I delete the old one? im trying to

Very, very interesting.

How are we to make sure we correctly time our waking-up within an REM break?

you do it all the time, an REM break is just a brief awakening in the night. You usually forget that you have them. But if you tell yourself to recognize them, then the next time it happens you'll know that youve just woke up

I did it last night can somone reply to me on the old thread please i need help?

I'm trying this again, though I have one question. I've never really attempted waking up in the night seriously, I just turn on my alarm so that it wakes me up after 5-7 hours. This is good enough right? I usually go back to sleep after 1 minute :)

if you can go back to sleep really easily and and quickly than it should work.

This technique uses "rapid" midnight awakenings to achieve lucidity. Every night person can experience a number of awakenings, that may break of finish his/her REM cycle. They may be caused by various things, but the main thing is to find yourself awake.
Human body has certain defensive mechanisms that preserve the continuity of sleep and counter such awakenings. My technique utilizes these defensive mechanisms to induce lucidity.

westonci, you are king bro

Still haven't mastered basic forum functions, though.

I'll try it since it doesn't involve WBTB.

westonci...i just have a few questions if you wouldn't mind

1) what methods were you trying before you perfected this one? had you had any luck with WILD in the past?

2) how long do you think it takes to enter the dream...1 minute?

3) when you say visualise a scene and your example..walking down the street. should you just be watching...or like imagining the breeze, and the sounds, and how it feels to walk on concrete etc

4) whats your success rate...100?

5) when you mean..you will loose consciousness unless you talk to the DC...do you mean..u basically hold a conversation about LDing until you work out that you actually are dreaming?

and finally

6) do you feel any transition into SP or anything? or is the transition from imagination to dream pretty smooth?

thanks..sorry for the heaps of questions!

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Still haven't mastered basic forum functions, though.

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so this method is only supposed to last a minute, I didn't try last night, I fell asleep before I could think about it, if this works for many people this should be placed into the tutorial section.

This sounds like a cross between a DEILD and a WILD. I like lucid dreams where I don't have to wait for 20 minutes to enter SP :P

Superb to see people helping the others to get where they are. Now I am at the wery beginning of the learning proces, but like what you say. It makes sense. I have already stopped dreaming after rem period. Often it happens, when i try SP when i get into bed. My sleep gets less deep, and i am more likely to wake up. It would be superb to create a tutorial to wake up at will. Or to wake up more than once. And that would be my question. How to wake up multiple times at night?

THX for resp.

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Originally Posted by adraw

Superb to see people helping the others to get where they are. Now I am at the wery beginning of the learning proces, but like what you say. It makes sense. I have already stopped dreaming after rem period. Often it happens, when i try SP when i get into bed. My sleep gets less deep, and i am more likely to wake up. It would be superb to create a tutorial to wake up at will. Or to wake up more than once. And that would be my question. How to wake up multiple times at night?

THX for resp.

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Thats the good side of being a light sleeper. I wake up multiple times a night.

Low attention-span version: Try this with WBTB

I've been trying this technique most every night for the past week.

This morning was the first time it worked completely. I think there is a lot of merit to this technique, but it definitely needs to be tuned to the individual.

Let me explain: each time I had tried this, (2-4 times a night), I found myself much too tired to continue trying, and my mind would stray within minutes, and I would fall asleep.

This morning, however, I unintentionally used WBTB (awake for about 15 minutes, 5 of which were actually out of bed) before trying the technique. Though your guidelines advise a very short awakening, I was able to have a 'day-dream' fully transition into a dream. It seems I had some vague sense of my physical body, however, and actually tried to move myself.

Unfortunately, this ended one of the most realistic dream states I have ever achieved. This level of vividness may have attributed to my wanting to awake.

I should note that after attempting to move (and failing, as SP had set in without my notice, as you stated) I had several false-awakenings, which also happened to be surprisingly vivid.

Sorry if I seem to ramble, I am just excited by the possibilities.

Though it alters the process somewhat, I suggest those having trouble try this with a short WBTB.

-Graysong

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Originally Posted by westonci

FINALLY!

After 6 months of trying I can now have lucid dreams at will!!!!!

I wanted to make sure it wasn't a fluke so i didn't write this after my first try, Ive had 3-4 lucid dreams each night for the last 7 days using this technique.

This technique is very easy to do, and is a great way to have Lucid dreams at will.

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1. You need at least 5 hours of sleep

2. You must wake up in an REM break (a brief awakenings during the night)

3. You should feel tired, and feel as if you can go back to sleep easily

4. Just lay there in bed with your eyes closed as if your going back to sleep

5. Now imagine a dream scenario and being in there. You should have a good idea what your scenario looks like.

For best results your dream scenario should be somewhere your very familiar with like your backyard, street, school, workplace etc.

Also you should do a simple task like just walking. If you try flying or something like that it will be harder.

An example would be walking along your street during the day.

6. You should be imagining your dream scenario for about 20-30 seconds than go on to step 7

7. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT Now imagine seeing a Dream Character and telling them your dreaming.

Example “Im gonna have a lucid dream soon!!! This is just a dream! None of this is real! What do you want me to do to prove to you that where dreaming?”

Do something simple to prove to your Dream Character your dreaming, like making a dog or car appear.

Note: You shouldn't immediately talk to your Dream Character once you start imagining your Dream scenario (this is where most people screw up) you should walk around your dream scenario for a while (this gets you really close to the transition from imagining to actually having a Lucid Dream)

The reason you have to talk to a Dream Character is that if you don't you will end up losing consciousness as your mind transitions from imagining to dreaming. This technique is basically a WILD.

Basically you have to pretend that your having a lucid dream and it will eventually become a real lucid dream and by the time it transitions you’ll know that your no longer pretending and that your actually having a Lucid Dream.

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I guarantee this will work for ANYONE!!!!!!!

you will probably have a Lucid Dream on your first night!!

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You are one lucky bastard lol

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Originally Posted by tekkendreams

You are one lucky bastard lol

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Isn't he just. I can have lucids at will almost with but with this technique you can go anywhere your imagination can create with anyone you want. Most of my lucids start off in my old house or around that area or my old school :( I have tryed this technique but it just doesn't work for me unfortunately.

I suppose i should just be grateful i can have lucids. :)

This sounds pretty much like the VILD method... Also this won't work for me because me mind needs to wander to fall asleep, but what the hell, I'll try it anyways.

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Isn't he just. I can have lucids at will almost with but with this technique you can go anywhere your imagination can create with anyone you want. Most of my lucids start off in my old house or around that area or my old school :( I have tryed this technique but it just doesn't work for me unfortunately.

I suppose i should just be grateful i can have lucids. :)

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lucid is lucid why would different technques effect where u go and what u do?

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lucid is lucid why would different technques effect where u go and what u do?

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I think he was referring to the visualised starting points of the dreams, i.e your house or front street.

infact..im really sorry to dig this up...

but does this method require a long time to work? or is it really quick? i.e will it require focussing for ages or will it fly past

Sounds like a great technique Westonci. Thanks for sharing it.

I really like the part about telling a dream character you are dreaming and then doing something to prove to them that you are dreaming.

I'll definitely give this a try.

Repetative thought of the scenario through the day makes up for the couple of times a night you do it.
I set my Saltcube timer for 30 mins on my PC during the day and play the scenario through my head for 30 secs or so.
Imagine how much this speeds up the mental memory of the scene when you are ready to do it and also the ease of picturing it when you are half asleep.

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Repetative thought of the scenario through the day makes up for the couple of times a night you do it.
I set my Saltcube timer for 30 mins on my PC during the day and play the scenario through my head for 30 secs or so.
Imagine how much this speeds up the mental memory of the scene when you are ready to do it and also the ease of picturing it when you are half asleep.

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That's a great idea DreamChaser.

The more a person imagines something during the day, the easier it is going to be for them to imagine it when they are half asleep, and the easier it is going to be to become lucid while imagining it.

This idea of yours is similar to doing reality checks, only much better.

A person could either do this everytime a timer goes off like you are doing, or just do it whenever they would normally do a reality check, such as whenever they enter a room or change locations.

What are these breaks exactly like? I always wake up in between my dreams (about three or four times a night) and I write them down in my journal.

Are these REM breaks exactly that, or no?

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What are these breaks exactly like? I always wake up in between my dreams (about three or four times a night) and I write them down in my journal.

Are these REM breaks exactly that, or no?

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To my knowledege these breaks are in between REM stages.
You then prep. yourself with the dream scenario for the next REM session,
or for a wbtb or something keep awake for a large chunk of the next REM and get back to bed in prep. for the following REM session.
Does that make sense?


iadr:
Thanks and you can do it as a eye-open quick daydream of the scene, as long as it enters yur mind through the day.
Remember how we have a dream of something so small we glanced at during the day that we never took notice of? Well imagine puting your dream scene in your memory 10 times a day. Imagine how much easier it would be to dream it.

This is a great technique Westonci, and you did a great job of explaining all of the steps.

I tried this several times last night as I woke up several times from my dreams, and had a short lucid dream the first time I tried it, with all of the other times resulting in vivid dreams.

When I began visualizing myself jogging down a road that I jog on with my dog almost every day I found myself suddenly being only about 1 foot tall, but very stocky.

I encountered several dream characters who I tried to convince that I was dreaming, but forgot what most of them were.

The one I remember though was a grasshopper :lol: that I was trying to convince that I was dreaming by making it rain, and then making the sun come out.

Great technique. Thanks again for sharing it.

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To my knowledege these breaks are in between REM stages.
You then prep. yourself with the dream scenario for the next REM session,
or for a wbtb or something keep awake for a large chunk of the next REM and get back to bed in prep. for the following REM session.
Does that make sense?

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Yeah it does. I'm just wondering where these breaks are exactly. If these are the times that I wake up immediately following my dream then I am set. Otherwise I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by tsolless

Yeah it does. I'm just wondering where these breaks are exactly. If these are the times that I wake up immediately following my dream then I am set. Otherwise I'm not sure.

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Pretty much. They are meant to be in roughly 90 min cycles and text books say to stay up in a wbtb for 60-90 mins (ie a REM cycle) to continue into the next REM.
But we are all different and some can't go back to sleep after that long and need to greatly reduce the awake time.
Best thing I have found is watch when you wake through the night and jot down the times.
Do this over a few nights (when doing your dream journal jot it next to the dream) and you will start to get an idea of your REM time cycle.
A good starting point is set you alarm for 4.30am and see what happens.
Hope that helps.

Hmm... good method, though i never remember waking up in the night, most of the time when I go to sleep, I just lie in bed and then i wake up in the morning :/

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Hmm... good method, though i never remember waking up in the night, most of the time when I go to sleep, I just lie in bed and then i wake up in the morning :/

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I used to too. I started setting my mobile on vibrate in my sock, for 4.30am, 6am and 7.30am. This was great for wbtb, VILDs and WILD attempts.
Once my phone was out of battery and I realised i was waking at these times automatically. So cool. Repetiton is so fun.

Sounds like a VILD to me. I've never tried it before, so I'll give it a shot tonight.

I suck at WILD... will it work for me too?

I wake up in the middle of the night all the time, i'll try this. thanks.