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I've been wondering if you could induce SP at anytime, lets say right now 8:47 AM im wide awake. if I lay down in my room and stop moving and stop thinking (concentrating on breath) can I enter SP after awhile (say half hour?)
im really wondering this becuase I would like to pratice Lucid dreaming during the day not just night, of course I wouldn't get a LD but I need to get better at inducing SP. Please voice your opinion.
I found during the day is a great time, Usually after work or even after some basic physical activity my body is tired and more prone to SP, as where my brain is usually pretty awake so its hard to fall asleep..
:huh: You can induce SP?? I've heard that some have done this, but most people seem to think we have no control over it. Please go on...
thad be sick. i think iv entered SP before bed once (like at start of sleep). but of course no LD
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Originally Posted by Shady
so you've done it:boogie: how many times? what time of day exactly are you talking about?
Being able to.. "induce" SP is as simple as being awake when your body begins going to sleep, I can usually hit SP within 10-15 minutes no matter what time of day it is.. the more physically tired you are the better. It happens every time you fall asleep, doesnt matter what time it is :). Its just when you are more tired after a full day, it is easier to slip into sleep.
Do the same thing you would normally do during WBTB at night if your napping in the day, if you find yourself laying there for like an hour not being able to fall asleep, its because your either not tired enough or trying to think to hard about it. Go to sleep normally and you shouldn't fall into a deep enough sleep to the point where you'll crash for a few hours, most likely you might wake up a tiny bit after you initially fall asleep, try to work on your SP then.
I find i need to be tired to be able to constantly achieve a good level of SP, because my body wants to go to sleep without me telling it to.. it happens naturally every time you sleep, just let it happen.. Its just a matter of remaining conscious enough to be aware its happening, but not to awake to not be able to sleep.
I hit SP 9/10 nights without trying, it just happens. Find a way that you can keep your brain active, but not something that you have to constantly.. think about. Just relax :)
Everyone has their own methods of relaxation, and different.. "limits" on what they can do in terms of keeping your mind active, and letting go of your body.
Theres probably 50 methods on the forums, best thing I have found personally for learning is just to set up multiple alarms to wake me up over and over, or just hit your snooze button.. You wont get much sleep, but its good while your just learning about the transitional state. You get used to what it feels like to not be awake, and not asleep at the same time, so when you feel this later on you can recognize it and.. yeah. If i try to force SP, it doesn't happen. Doing this means you can fall asleep regularly, dont even think about LDing. Just go to bed normally :). You will wake up regardless in 20 or 30 mins (whatever your alarm set at) and it will leave you in a perfect position to experience SP if you try not to wake up to much.
Basically, you fall asleep regularly, body naturally goes into SP, you wont feel it because you will not be "conscious" of whats going on in real life.. waking up shortly after this happens leaves you in a very very relaxed and sleep state, but still aware enough to be able to recognize whats going on.
Eventually the sound of your alarm wont "jolt" you awake, you will just barely slip out of sleep, usually I am still under the effects of SP, or a mild case at least.. from there it takes a matter of 30 secs to fall asleep usually, and you can really feel your body go back into full SP almost instantly, its a great way to get used to the sensation so that when it happens when you try to WILD or something, you dont focus on it as much because your used to it. Again when you first start doing this you wont get much sleep, but soon you wont need the alarm, and you will be able to seamlessly flow from wide awake, to sp. At least thats how it works for me.. its almost second nature after a week of doing this.
Sorry if none of that makes sense :( just kinda how it works for me, might be completely different for you.
Shady, you just said everything I was looking for thank you:D. I've never really been in true SP just to the stage were it feels like your being lifted up. practicing during the day has been something I've always wanted to do but never knew how but now I know. I'll set up a few alarms and keep trying this, today I cant run but ill try it after I jog a few miles tomorrow. hopefully I'll do it right in this first week.