My first recall in a long time!+A conversation with my subsonsious!

Ok. Every once in a while, I stop writing in my DJ for a while, and my recall goes down the drain. But usually I can get it back by writing in my DJ for a coulple more days. Well, I decided I wanted it back. 5 days went by, and still no recall. I was doing everything I could to get it back. Well, not everything. This is what I did last night:


Listened to over an hour of Subliminal Recall Music

Named my Subconsious

Lots of Autosuggestion

100mg of B6

Had a real conversation with my subconsious (I could swear I wasn't just making up answers)

Read tons of LD stuff

More autosuggestion


And guess what?! I remembered one full dream! All that hard work paid off! Now if only I knew which one made it happen...

Oh, and this is how my conversation went with my subconsious (after I worked on naming her for a day) (Her name is Spice :) )

Rebecca-Hey Spice
Spice-uhh... yeah?
Rebecca-I'm so glad I can talk to you
Spice-uhhh yeah.. me too
Rebecca- Can everyone talk to their subconsious?
Spice-Some people, about half
Rebecca-Cool
Spice-yeah...
Rebecca-(hmm, I wonder if I am talking to her or just my consious mind)
Rebecca-hey spice?
Spice-yeah?
Rebecca-what was the name I almost named you? (there is no way I could get this right by myslef... it was 4 days ago and it was a super random name!)
Spice- uhh... Maria Jones.
Rebecca-(omg! she got that so quick, I didn't have a clue of rememberance!)) thanks.
Spice- umm... no problem
Rebecca- why haven't I been remembering my dreams latley?
Spice- you haven't been trying hard enough
Rebecca- wha- what? I have been trying really hard.
Spice- well, idk
Rebecca- can you make it come back?
Spice-ummm... maybe...
Rebecca- pleeeaaaassseeee
Spice- ah, ok.
Rebecca-thank you so much ^.^ how many dreams will i have tonight?
Spice-6
Rebecca-how many will i remember?
Spice-1
Rebecca-goodnight
Spice-night

The next morning, i remembered one dream

Rebecca-hey spice?
Spice-yeah?
Rebecca-can you communicate with other supconsiousnessess?
Spice-no. well, yes. but minds dont like talking to eachother.
Rebecca-oh. will i remember any more of my dream later on in the day?
Spice-yes
Rebecca-randomly?
Spice-no, you will see something
Rebecca-ok... cool

I haven't remembered the rest yet, but hey, the day isnt over yet.

So what do you think? Was I really talking with her?

wowoeee!

weird, tell us when you see something that triggers your memories asap!

About five minutes ago, I asked my subconsious:

Rebecca: Why haven't I seen my memory trigger object?
Spice: You already have
Rebecca: crap... and i didn't notice it?
Spice: nope, you weren't paying attention
Rebecca:will i see it again?
spice:...nope


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Originally Posted by puppycat

About five minutes ago, I asked my subconsious:

Rebecca: Why haven't I seen my memory trigger object?
Spice: You already have
Rebecca: crap... and i didn't notice it?
Spice: nope, you weren't paying attention
Rebecca:will i see it again?
spice:...nope


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Were you sleeping for this chat? If not, how were you able to talk to your subconscious directly?

mhhhhhh... are you crazy? ^^ or do you have a splitted mind? ^^ uuuhm.. sorry for this. really! i apologize, but this is just tooo weird, isnt it? ^^

You aren't helping.

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Originally Posted by puppycat

You aren't helping.

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If it was directed at me, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, I am just curious.

Awesome, Puppycat!

I talk to my subconscious sometimes, too. I do it when I'm awake. Since I'm a writer I always write my questions and the answers I get. Other times I talk to my subc. in LDs.

I do it while I'm lying in bed.

If this helps you, keep going and good luck.

Maybe there's something to direct communication. Maybe I'll try to meet my subconcsious in a lucid sometime.

How exactly do you two strike up a conversationw ith your subconcious? When you're laying in bed, about to go sleep, do you just think to yourself? Or is it during a LD? Please tell me xD.

Also, how do you talk to it while you're awake? Sorry, i'm kind of a newb at this. I did join a few months ago, but on an oldddd name that I forget the information to. I'm just now managing to have a WILD/ short LD...

Thanks in advance xP.

When I talk to my subc. while I'm awake I go into my writing studio and sit down. I drink some tea and relax. Then I pick up a pen and some paper. I write my first question or greeting, then see if my subc. will reply. The converstation is written. I think that works so well for me because I'm a writer and it is a comfortable format. Often it will go something like this:

me: Hey. I need to talk.
subc.: It's about time!
me: Yeah, I knew there was a problem. What is it?
subc.: You're ....

Then the conversation goes on from there. I'm not going to share any of these actual conversations because they, naturally, are really personal.

When I talk to my subc. in a LD it goes something like this:
I know I'm dreaming.
I know there is a problem brewing, so I want to talk about it.
I approach a DC (or a DC approaches me) and ask if they can talk on behalf of my subc.
Then we talk.

Ahhhh! I'm going to try that! (:

I just talk to her in my head. (While I'm awake) She told me she doesn't appreciate it when I post our conversations. I guess it is meant to be personal.

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Originally Posted by seeker28

When I talk to my subc. while I'm awake I go into my writing studio and sit down. I drink some tea and relax. Then I pick up a pen and some paper. I write my first question or greeting, then see if my subc. will reply. The converstation is written. I think that works so well for me because I'm a writer and it is a comfortable format. Often it will go something like this:

me: Hey. I need to talk.
subc.: It's about time!
me: Yeah, I knew there was a problem. What is it?
subc.: You're ....

Then the conversation goes on from there. I'm not going to share any of these actual conversations because they, naturally, are really personal.

When I talk to my subc. in a LD it goes something like this:
I know I'm dreaming.
I know there is a problem brewing, so I want to talk about it.
I approach a DC (or a DC approaches me) and ask if they can talk on behalf of my subc.
Then we talk.

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So you just make yourself comfortable, then pose questions to yourself and take the answers that immediately jump into your mind?

there are people out there that can help u

Hmm, yes, and I believe that the ones I am asking my question to are the ones that posted in this topic before me, therefore, I believe that they may be able to help with my question.

Active Imagination

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Originally Posted by The Enterer

Active Imagination

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Doesn't always = "Crazy" (..careful, though! There are some people who would brand us all crazy for discussing the topic of LDs)

Wish I could invoke dialog with mu subconscious like that... It might prove interesting ;)

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Originally Posted by Licity

Hmm, yes, and I believe that the ones I am asking my question to are the ones that posted in this topic before me, therefore, I believe that they may be able to help with my question.

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ummmmmm, not talking to u

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Originally Posted by RBee

Doesn't always = "Crazy" (..careful, though! There are some people who would brand us all crazy for discussing the topic of LDs)

Wish I could invoke dialog with mu subconscious like that... It might prove interesting ;)

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I wasn't accusing her of having an overactive imagination, I was pointing out that what she is doing is paralleled by a technique that Jung developed. Check out the link...

I talk to myself sometimes in my head, but i'm not sure if its me or my SubC that i'm talking too :D Dosent make you crazy, it just makes you intresting!

thats to weird for me to believe. youre like homer :lol: you know, when he talkes to his subc. ^^
the question i asked at the top was serious. ARE you somehow crazy or DO you have splitted mind or is that really real for you? (i apologize. that sounds like i wannet to harm you or somethin, but im relly serious.)

(these are all my opinions btw. from my own personal experiences. So don't knock me down too hard. But feel free to input your own experiences.)

I do talk to my SC awake or not awake.

A lot of times when im awake its hard to separate my SC from the rest of the thoughts in my mind.

The way i hear / know things in my mind, is that my SC and me both use the same parts of the brain to communicate speech, but me and him have separate sections where we both live.

I do try to talk to my SC all the time, it works a lot. But most of the time i'm not happy with what he says. Or i just don't know if its static from the rest of my brain. Or its really is him.

I guess getting hit in the head with a heavy statue makes it so i cant tell my SC from the rest of my brain.... *sigh*

So well anyways, puppycat, don't let anyone else tell you different. Your SC does exist. Talking to it is a very good thing, because your SC is a part of you, and ignoring it is not a good thing. Because when you ignore it. Its harder to lucid dream and live a normal life. Your SC is a part of you much as you are a part of it, we just have different jobs :)

Gotta work together with your SC. Team work! :D

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I just talk to her in my head. (While I'm awake) She told me she doesn't appreciate it when I post our conversations. I guess it is meant to be personal.

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Saying some stuff is okay. But a lot of the stuff your SC tells you is only for you to know and not to be told to others. As others cannot understand because there not you... :)

But always feel free to ask you SC weather its okay to post what you talk about together.

You gotta understand your SC is a living Conscious thing as you are and has its own thoughts and feelings.

Having a good relationship with him/her is good, but treat it as a friend or a lover. It is its own living being inside of you.

(also, i've found my SC can and does talk to other people's SC. Ive been having this for years now. I ask my SC to have someone do something, and that person responds, but only if there SC agrees with what my SC asks it. i personally believe our SC's communicate through the electromagnetic field all our bodys and life forms on this planet give off.

I have pet mice, i can talk to them through my SC and ask them to do things. I don't over use or abuse this ability however. Moderation and all :) )

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Originally Posted by Licity

So you just make yourself comfortable, then pose questions to yourself and take the answers that immediately jump into your mind?

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Yep, that is how it works for me. Sometimes I don't get any answers -- it feels like my conscious mind is trying to force it, and sometimes makes up stuff. When it works it feels like an actual conversation -- I'm not sure what the reply will be. Sometimes it is really startling.

I find that my subc. is much more honest than my conscious mind. It won't lie to me or try to protect my feeling from getting hurt.

I totally understand what TheMoon is saying. The subconscious is very much a part of us. It controls us more than we like to think, this is why I want to be on such good terms with mine. I want to know what is going on and what I can do to make my life run more smoothly. I like to think of my subc. as my friend.

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Originally Posted by seeker28

Yep, that is how it works for me. Sometimes I don't get any answers -- it feels like my conscious mind is trying to force it, and sometimes makes up stuff. When it works it feels like an actual conversation -- I'm not sure what the reply will be. Sometimes it is really startling.

I find that my subc. is much more honest than my conscious mind. It won't lie to me or try to protect my feeling from getting hurt.

I totally understand what TheMoon is saying. The subconscious is very much a part of us. It controls us more than we like to think, this is why I want to be on such good terms with mine. I want to know what is going on and what I can do to make my life run more smoothly. I like to think of my subc. as my friend.

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This will just take me a little practice to not force answers. Thanks for the tips!

Someone should write a tutorial on how to talk to your Sub Consious...

I so want to try this!

Should I be in a relaxing area?
How would I start off a convo with my SC?
How would I be able to tell if it's just me making up a fake convo with my own thoughts? Does the SC have a different voice that is distuishable?

Edit: And is auto suggestion where you say your going to do something outloud?
And when I give my SC a name, should I think it or say it out loud too?

I'm pretty skeptical as to if this is really talking to your subconscious... aren't you just writing down the first thing that comes to mind unfiltered?

I thought the point of a subconsious was that it was SUBconsious. It doesn't operate on the same cognative level that your consious self does. how can you interact with something that doesn't function on the same level that your consious self does, let alone get answers to thought provoking questions?

Thanks for all the help everyone. I'm glad to know I'm not crazy =p

I'm still trying to do stuff like this in my LDs, but I always forget. But I did find out my dream name was Monday!

The subconscious is sort of seperate. It rules our emotions, our instincts, our deep desires and drives, our fears. It uses dreams to not only organize new info and relate it to old info, but also to expolre our fears and desires.

Because our subconscious is basicaly us -- but is "unflitered" and not forced to be socially acceptable. That is why I think it is useful to write what first comes to mind, since this first impulse is most likely to be a reaction from the subconscious.

Really, there is no way to know if you are actually getting answers from the subconscious or are just making stuff up. To me it "feels" different -- more like a reaction and less like it has been thought out.

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Originally Posted by slayer

Someone should write a tutorial on how to talk to your Sub Consious...

I so want to try this!

Should I be in a relaxing area?
How would I start off a convo with my SC?
How would I be able to tell if it's just me making up a fake convo with my own thoughts? Does the SC have a different voice that is distuishable?

Edit: And is auto suggestion where you say your going to do something outloud?
And when I give my SC a name, should I think it or say it out loud too?

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For me it works best to be someplace where there are few other distractions. I also try to relax and get my conscious mind to shut up as much as possible.

I always start out with something like "Hello" or "I need to talk to you" or even "Thank you."

For me my subconscious doesn't sound different than my own voice -- as it is me, just my more instinctual self.

Autosuggestion is a form of meditation that used a word, phrase, or sentenct as a mantra. You can say it out loud, but saying it in your head is fine. The idea is to repeat your mantra a bunch of times.

I haven't named my subconscious, so I don't know what would be best.

You could ask a DC for your subconscious's name.

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Originally Posted by slayer

And when I give my SC a name, should I think it or say it out loud too?

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When I named mine, I mouthed the name like I was lip synching while basically shouting it in my head.

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Originally Posted by seeker28

The subconscious is sort of seperate. It rules our emotions, our instincts, our deep desires and drives, our fears. It uses dreams to not only organize new info and relate it to old info, but also to expolre our fears and desires.

Because our subconscious is basicaly us -- but is "unflitered" and not forced to be socially acceptable. That is why I think it is useful to write what first comes to mind, since this first impulse is most likely to be a reaction from the subconscious.

Really, there is no way to know if you are actually getting answers from the subconscious or are just making stuff up. To me it "feels" different -- more like a reaction and less like it has been thought out.

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Everything you said here seeker is the same it is for me too.

One important thing everyone must know about your SC. Even if you cant directly communicate with it.

It is always there, and it is always listening, you and your SC shares the same brain, it knows everything you know.

Its extremely hard to separate what is just being made up and what your SC is telling you.

I think its easier to lucid dream and WILD then it is to talk to your SC.

Unless your in a WILD, mainly because your SC is in control of the WILD. It becomes much easier to communicate with it.

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Originally Posted by seeker28

For me it works best to be someplace where there are few other distractions. I also try to relax and get my conscious mind to shut up as much as possible.

I always start out with something like "Hello" or "I need to talk to you" or even "Thank you."

For me my subconscious doesn't sound different than my own voice -- as it is me, just my more instinctual self.

Autosuggestion is a form of meditation that used a word, phrase, or sentenct as a mantra. You can say it out loud, but saying it in your head is fine. The idea is to repeat your mantra a bunch of times.

I haven't named my subconscious, so I don't know what would be best.

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So all I really have to do, is find a place that I'm most comfortable with, do some autosuggestion like "My subconscious will talk to me when I ask for it." Then I can try talking to it by asking if it will talk to me like "Subconscious I wish to talk to you." And hope it talks back?

Yeppers!

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Originally Posted by puppycat

Rebecca-hey spice?
Spice-yeah?
Rebecca-can you communicate with other supconsiousnessess?
Spice-no. well, yes. but minds dont like talking to eachother.
Rebecca-oh. will i remember any more of my dream later on in the day?
Spice-yes
Rebecca-randomly?
Spice-no, you will see something
Rebecca-ok... cool

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When you think about it that's actually true.
People communicate a lot visually (expression, body language).
Sub-conscious may well be more aware if this than your conscious mind.

I tried this last night, but nothing really happened. I my subconsiousness asked why I couldn't have a good conversation with it. It said I wasn't trying. I must've been tired, because I remember some really cool spikey turtles running around in my mind. I tried talking to it again, but the turtles just turned into spikey rabbits. Maybe I should try it when I'm not tired.

This would help if you didn't have ADD wouldn't it?

"Rebecca-can you communicate with other supconsiousnessess?
Spice-no. well, yes. but minds dont like talking to eachother."

Just wondering... do you actually believe this?

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Originally Posted by slayer

This would help if you didn't have ADD wouldn't it?

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What would help? And I don't have ADD.
I don't think I understand what you're saying.

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What would help? And I don't have ADD.
I don't think I understand what you're saying.

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It's hard to concentrate on one thing...

And then I sometimes wonder off in my mind and think about other things instead of trying to talk to my SC.

Oh. I was just too tired to concentrate.

I talked to my SC last night and I got all the right answers I needed for some things. :)

There should definately be a seperate thread for SC, this could be a excellent sub-topic for people who are interested.

I'm pretty sure I talk to my SC, it usually encourages me or tells me "how it is" like at work if I think I can't do something it will tell me that I can and that I'm perfectly capable of completing a task. Or sometimes it will start the conversation as a reply like "what was his deal?" and then I would reply "I don't know I guess he's grumpy" or something to that effect.

Does this sound like a SC or am I just talking to myself?

Any help would be great :D