DEILD Probs ^^

Hi everyone^^

keeping my eyes closed when waking up is no prob for me, BUT i often immediatly start to move into a more comfortable position to continue dreaming.

Any tips on how to keep motionless?

thanks!

This happened to me too! My hip just kinda rotated. I would think that as long as your brain isn't controlling your movements (you aren't doing them on purpose), you will stay in REM.

But I don't know for sure, so don't hold me against it.

Hi Blitzwing.

I find DEILD to be one of the most effective ld techniques there is. Whenever I use the technique, after waking up I too always move to a more comfortable position while keeping my eyes closed.

Moving/shifting position has not had a negative impact on the DEILD method for me, I still get sleep paralysis and go into a lucid dream. I think for me, when I wake up I shift around before dozing back off anyway, so for some people like me shifting position while keeping the eyes closed may be a necessairy part of the DEILD process.

I find that moving inhibits my attempted DEILDs. One thing that really helps is planting the suggestion before sleep, saying "when I wake up, I will not move" or something of the sort. Try it out!

thanks. ill try that, cause it works for me by now ^^. i just attempted to DEILD because i before repeated "I will notice the end of my dream and wake up", soooo im just gonna extend it like so "i will notice the end of my dream and wake up motionless" ^^

@Puppycat (btw, cooool name ^^ i like it): yeah, i do believe in your words, but i dont think that my motions arent controled by my brain... i think im doin them willingly... its kinda just somethin i got used to.. you get that? :roll: ^^

....uuuuuuuuuh that doesnt work (i mean the autosuggestion)...

Lol. Maybe not for you, but AutoSuggestion has worked for hundreds of people on this site. If you made a thread "post here if AutoSuggestion worked for you", you would find out how many people use it.

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Lol. Maybe not for you, but AutoSuggestion has worked for hundreds of people on this site. If you made a thread "post here if AutoSuggestion worked for you", you would find out how many people use it.

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shall i? :lol:

Try to sleep with your face up, laying down in your back. In this position when you wake at the middle of the night your body won´t fell necessity to move. I read this in a Astral Projection article and every time i do it i Deild efectively, although it´s a little hard to me fall asleep in this position. (sry for my rusty english :P )

Illusi0n, that sounds like an east solution! I will give it a try.. tho it's hard for me to fall asleep on my back as well. (Your english is very good. :D)

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hope my english is good to :D

well i also cant really fall asleep on my back but ill give it a try. thanks for your help, Illusi0n! ......... but, doesnt your body roll over during the NREM phases?

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hope my english is good to :D

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It is. ;)

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It is. ;)

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haha! :chuckle: i DID get that one! ^^ i meant tooooo uhh too :D
i love this forum. its the pure english training for me ^^. i dont need school any more (well thats a bit longer ago, that i dont need school any more to learn english ^^)

BUT back to topic! ^^ pleeeease no one answer this post. :lol:

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well i also cant really fall asleep on my back but ill give it a try. thanks for your help, Illusi0n! ......... but, doesnt your body roll over during the NREM phases?

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It´s true but in this position that is less probable happening. For example, in my sleep cycle i always wake at 2am and 4am. So at 2 am i shift to the position described, i´m too tired so it´s easy to fall asleep again. At 4am let begin the magic! It´s less probable my body roll over with this method.

Another sugestion it´s to use a alarm that only play during 2-5 seconds. Whatever the position i use, i can alaways get some nice results with this. The unique problem it is sometimes i´m to tired to hear the alarm :(...like today...

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Originally Posted by Illusi0n

It´s true but in this position that is less probable happening. For example, in my sleep cycle i always wake at 2am and 4am. So at 2 am i shift to the position described, i´m too tired so it´s easy to fall asleep again. At 4am let begin the magic! It´s less probable my body roll over with this method.

Another sugestion it´s to use a alarm that only play during 2-5 seconds. Whatever the position i use, i can alaways get some nice results with this. The unique problem it is sometimes i´m to tired to hear the alarm :(...like today...

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my prob is (i even made a thread on this) that i can't find an alarm clock playing only a few secs :( my watch does but its FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too quiet... but thanks for your help. ill have my next DEILD and WILD tries next weekend.

I've had two DIELDs now, both accidental. In both situations, I changed my position before going back to sleep. I still went in sleep paralysis just seconds later and had a DIELD both times. All you really have to do is just stay conscious when you shortly begin to go back to sleep.

Moving never stops me from having a DEILD. I always have a derivation of a DEILD. I may move, but I can still inject myself back into the dream 50% of the time. Just go with it.

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Moving never stops me from having a DEILD. I always have a derivation of a DEILD. I may move, but I can still inject myself back into the dream 50% of the time. Just go with it.

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Thanks!
Ill try everynight now, cause i have finally found something that wakes me up in midnight, but rangs for only a few secs: TWO watches ^^