An experiment....

I've been thinking... I have heard that everything we see, hear or experience in our lives is stored in our subconcious memory; even though we have only limited access to it.
For example, if I read a book, I will not be able to say what exactly is written on page 135.
I'm gonna do a little experiment. The dreamworld is the world of the subconcious, right?

I'm going to read a page of a random book. Any page, and I'm just gonna read it quickly, without thinking too much about what is written there.
Then I go to sleep. If I have an LD, I go to my room, pick up the book that is conveniently there, go to that page; and read one random sentence on that page. I will study that sentence and memorize it.
When I wake up, I will get my real book; and check whether the sentence is there. What do you guys think?

I'm no expert but I thought I read somewhere that text isn't stable in dreams. I.E. it will change every time you look away, will be blurry, and what not because some people use that for a RC.

If that doesn't work you might be able to get it another way like asking a DC what a line from the book is or something.

Interesting idea though, let us know how it goes

I know, but I've read text before in dreams, so maybe I'll get lucky.

go for it! :D i like to read in dreams as boring as that may sound, it is actually always very interesting as it isn't the same as when you do it awake.

I like the idea, but there might be better ways to go about it. Since so many people experience the text issue, maybe another form of access could be used. I was going to say use music and a song you've never heard and check the accuracy of the lyrics, but people often get those pesky electronic failures. I think the most reliable would be to ask a friendly, helpful DC what the page said or what the lyrics were.

It'd probably also be best, if you were to read, to say the words word for word but try not to think of them or come up with a summary by distracting yourself immediately after reading. In fact it would probably be best to go with Ebbinghaus and use CVC nonsense syllables to really be accurate. Just write them down, making them up as you write. Hide it away, quiz your DCs. That's how I'd do it.

all the texts I have read in dreams are never written with correct grammar. But very to-the-point

clever, I can't wait to see your results

Do it! Sounds really interesting, tough I agree with Shift, it may be difficult to read.

if it does work- what would you want to find out, or what memory would you want to find?

i like reading in my dreams, something unexpected is always written. anyway, try it!

Just a point to add here: if you have no preconceived notion that text is difficult to read in a dream, it is not. It's just one of those things. Expect the text to be easily legible and coherent. Expect it to remain the same when re-read after looking away and back.

Let us know the results!

It most likely won't work...

You may get some familar lines or words, but most of it will probably just be jibberish.

Just don't look away from it.

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Originally Posted by slayer

It most likely won't work...

You may get some familar lines or words, but most of it will probably just be jibberish.

Just don't look away from it.

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That's the spirit.

i dont think it will work, becuase you said that you will see it because dreaming is the subconsious word or something, well that may be true, but lucid dreamings definition is consious dreaming, so im not too sure about it, and also the thing to do with text reading difficulties, but as you said thats not too much of a problem for you. but the main problem is that lucid dreaming is consious

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Originally Posted by slash112

i dont think it will work, becuase you said that you will see it because dreaming is the subconsious word or something, well that may be true, but lucid dreamings definition is consious dreaming, so im not too sure about it, and also the thing to do with text reading difficulties, but as you said thats not too much of a problem for you. but the main problem is that lucid dreaming is consious

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If I do not force text to appear in that book, then my subconcious will generate it for me. You have to know when NOT to force control.

oo goody i love experiments

I wouldn't read a fresh page every night. Even if I skim it, it'll be pretty fresh in my memory for an easy conscious recall. If I glanced at it too fast to read anything, I wouldn't really call it part of my experience. Even so, trying to remember a specific book and page number that I just chose to look up would be hard in the dream.

What I'd do is take a book I'm already very familiar with and choose a page out of that to look up in the dream, without reviewing the page while awake. Aiming for the same thing every night will be a lot easier to remember to do dreamside, and a favorite book is definitely part of one's experience.

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I wouldn't read a fresh page every night. Even if I skim it, it'll be pretty fresh in my memory for an easy conscious recall. If I glanced at it too fast to read anything, I wouldn't really call it part of my experience. Even so, trying to remember a specific book and page number that I just chose to look up would be hard in the dream.

What I'd do is take a book I'm already very familiar with and choose a page out of that to look up in the dream, without reviewing the page while awake. Aiming for the same thing every night will be a lot easier to remember to do dreamside, and a favorite book is definitely part of one's experience.

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I choose a page that has symbolic meaning, like 666 :D pretty hard to forget.

good luck on your experiment. Just remember. KNOW it will work. doubt will probably result in failure.

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Originally Posted by Jerad

good luck on your experiment. Just remember. KNOW it will work. doubt will probably result in failure.

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Exactly! Don't even consider failure as a possibility. ;)

i like the idea. DEFINITELY POST THE RESULTS!