hey loaf when you use RB with WILD do you continue RB till you get SP? or do you stop once your tired of it?
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hey loaf when you use RB with WILD do you continue RB till you get SP? or do you stop once your tired of it?
Once I feel tired and I start to I lag when I try to open my eyes. Then I just relax and the rest comes naturally. Although I learned last night that if you don't keep thinking to yourself "I am dreaming" then you'll fall asleep. I had two dreams, one of them which could have been lucid if I stayed conscious. I forgot them both.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesLD
Just started doing this and it really does work wonders to fall asleep. I believe it also helped me on my first WILD this morning. Usually I never fall asleep because I am too excited, but using RB I feel asleep, woke up again, and went real quick into SP and into the dream.
wow this sounds promising.. thx for sharing, cant wait to try it tonight :D
As I said, once I get tired OR if it starts to get hard to open my eyes. But I am tired at that point anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesLD
So yes. I stop when I get tired.
hey loaf when you use RB with WILD do you continue RB till you get SP? or do you stop once your tired of it?
Not funny. :embarrassed:
You should appreciate the fact I am happy to offer advice based on my experience.
sorry, i dont know why it posted twiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
ok used this technique throughout the night and had 2 DILD's (pretty short though). not sure if it was this technique or if I just had em (it's not that unusual for me)
Has anyone tried reverse blinking in an LD yet?
I'd guess this could lead to DEILD or FA.
I thought I should share my success with RB on this thread also :)
I tried it yesterday and had my first successful WILD. :)
This is how I got it to work for me: Layed on my back, relaxed legs 1st, then torso, then head, RB until I felt my legs get tingly, closed my eyes, then twitched my arm muscles slightly, rotating between left and right. Well after 15 minutes, I was about to give up, so I rolled over on my side, pulled one leg up and put my hands under the pillow (thats how I usually sleep) then it seemed I was immediately dreaming. And oddly enough I was reading a PM with a DV member that my imagination had created. It was very detailed and strange, so I immediately became lucid. Ok, I know I shared more than I said I would, lol. Hope thats ok ;)
Don't you read? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by TheWeirdnessSymposium
Not a very constructive post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
What are you talking about, bread man?
Okay, Loaf, I've read through the whole thread and can't find any reference to anyone trying to RB in an LD.
Two possibilities:
A) You didn't read my post properly
B) There's some blatantly obvious reference to RBing within an LD that I've overlooked
I'll be trying this with a WBTB, trying to get WILDs for the next 3 nights as it is a long weekend :)
Will post results
When I read your post, it sounded as if you were asking if anyone has used RB and successfully had an LD with it. Although now I understand what you mean is if anyone has used the technique during an LD. I guess I was the one who didn't read properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWeirdnessSymposium
It used to make me really relaxed, but now if I try it in the early hours of the morning it doesn't make me as relaxed. Maybe I am too keen to have LDs? But that doesn't make any sense, because out of the 7 days I have tried to LD, on 5 of the days I have successfully.
I can't complain though. I am lucky I have found methods that work for me so quickly.
I've tried this for 2 nights in a row. It hasn't worked.
I wonder if some people are more susceptible to falling into a trance.
No prob loaf. Maybe I should've worded more clearly; I know some people have started to WILD in LDs and have achieved multiple LDs.
I've known people say that the effectiveness of RB has worn off after they'd done it some times. Can't remember the thread that was from.
It doesn't seem to work for some people at all Flashdance. That's one of the frustrating things about LDing - someone can find a technique that works really well for them but it doesn't work for others, and you can find a technique that works for you and it doesn't work for others.
Maybe I've been doing it wrong. I've just been trying RB when first retiring for the night. It's been suggested to me to try it with WBTB after 4 hours of sleep.
I'll give that a shot. I'll be trying this method for a long time before giving up on it.
EDIT: Loaf, I am glad it's working so great for you.
I use RB when I first fall asleep, simply to fall asleep. It amazes me how quickly you feel tired after practicing reverse blinking. You could try and use RB before sleep along with a mantra/self-affirmation to MILD. Of course, WBTBs and naps would be the best time to use this if you are attempting WILD. Good Luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashdance
I have to say that reverse blinking is fantastic for falling asleep. It literally takes me a matter of few minutes! I'll try WILD tonight after some sleep..
Just to add a quick note on my RB experiences,
I have tried this quite a bit lately.. before falling asleep, while attempting WILDs, during meditations...
It doesn't seem to work for me. I can blink and blink and blink... forever. My eyes never get tired, and it takes just as long to get into the trance/relaxed state as when I am not using RB.
Do you move your eyes looking at different details of the object you're concentrating on to? Try to keep your eyes from moving around and just focus on a detail of the object and keep your eyes on that. The rest of the surrounding will soon fade out and you should get really sleepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjayk89
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Originally Posted by jayjayk89
same here am trying for like 5 days and can't say it did anything for me.
doesn't seem to "knock me out" like it does with other people, I've tried both counting and estimating the 5 second intervals- after a while I just get, well, nowhere, and abandon this technique to fall asleep naturally
as for using it to WILD later in the night the most this has ever done for me was maybe a deep relaxation but nothing more
maybe my body just hates WILD :(