Extremely long or infinite LDs

Time blurs, but you continue to age. It is relative, but it continues to march on without you. The brain still only operates so quickly, and when it's trying to actively construct dream scapes and interpret data, while committing it all to memory (a somewhat difficult task that actually makes a very good RC), you just aren't going to hit 105 years in an hour of real time. You can certainly try to influence your perception by skipping about, but you simply will not experience long periods of time exactly as you would in reality. You will skip things, miss things, etc. that your brain may or may not fill in later.

interesting.... i don't know about the 105 years. I'd probably wake up insane lol.

Although, in my younger years (10-11) i was just coming into realization of my previouse faith (Christianity) and finding out about what it was and it's prophecies. After many reads of the bible and (i was a child, sue me) reading the tabloids and going to church, i formed a crippling fear that judgment day was very much at hand. I spent a year watching the skies, trembling at every red moon, and hiding from an eclipse. Finally it accumulated into one night where i fell asleep fearing that i would wake up in the presence of the almighty jesus (pfhh). That night i had a dream that indeed the day of judgment was at hand. I spent 3 days in that dream. I was told by god that i was to make an account of what i witnessed. Then i was lead around the world by Gabriel and shown the seals being broken and witnessed the faithful being called up to heaven. I watched as people i knew and didn't know were tortured by satan and his legion.I saw famine, mass genocide, torture, rape, of women men and children of all ages/race/origin. I would be allowed to rest each night and then Gabriel would wake me up and announce the things i was to see that day and accompany me to them. Needless to say, i woke up screaming my head off, thankful it was a dream. It was the most vivd, realistic non-lucid dream i've ever had. I dropped that religion a couple years later.....

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Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

Think of your whole life at this second, and then think of time. if you were in a black box with no way of telling time then time does not exist. It is a human invention. You could have been born a second ago just a long second ago. Live in the moment there is no time. Tell me how can you be sure that everything is not a false memory?

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Time is not a human invention, because life is not a human invention, and time and life are the same thing. You could put yourself away in a black box for the rest of your life and have no sense of time...but you'd have a sense of age. You couldn't stop yourself from aging, first and foremost. But we keep time in numerous other ways as well. When we sleep, when we eat...all of it must happen at some point or else we die, and therefore time is something beyond humanity, not something created by it.

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Originally Posted by Motumz

Which makes me think.. how do we not know we aren't trapped right now?

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Well you can do numerous reality checks, for one thing, all of which would fail inside a dream. Even if this were really just a very sophisticated dream, though, we can't sustain ourselves on dream food and drink :P And you'll notice in my dream that I momentarily woke up several times, and knew it when it was happening. Why wouldn't we have such experiences if this was all just a dream?

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Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

The character from your dream lmao, watch much Avatar? :P

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Yeah...lolz!

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Originally Posted by MistowBubbows

Did you lose your lucidity throughout this dream at times? It seemed like you just decided to go with it and not try to control anything about the dream. Also, what type of dream was this? WILD, MILD, DILD, ect...

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It was all the result of DILD (and technically DEILD too, but because it was such a continuous dream, I count it as 1 DILD instead of 4 or 5 DEILDs), and no, I never lost lucidity all throughout the dream. I did the nose RC almost constantly, but the thing is, I had never experienced lucidity without any control, or any ability to wake myself up attempting to control things (which usually isn't very hard to do), so I went along with everything because I seriously felt trapped. And the whole thing was so realistic that I honestly didn't know if somehow I'd brought my soul with me into the LD or something. It's hard to explain...but it's kind of like I accepted that dream as the extent of my life and existence until further notice. It had all the same rules as real life, and I couldn't do anything to change that, so the most logical thing seemed to be to just go along with it. I mean, knowing it was a dream meant I also knew that I had to wake up at some point...

This topic is sooooo complex for my brain.. Lol

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Originally Posted by MementoMori

interesting.... i don't know about the 105 years. I'd probably wake up insane lol.

Although, in my younger years (10-11) i was just coming into realization of my previouse faith (Christianity) and finding out about what it was and it's prophecies. After many reads of the bible and (i was a child, sue me) reading the tabloids and going to church, i formed a crippling fear that judgment day was very much at hand. I spent a year watching the skies, trembling at every red moon, and hiding from an eclipse. Finally it accumulated into one night where i fell asleep fearing that i would wake up in the presence of the almighty jesus (pfhh). That night i had a dream that indeed the day of judgment was at hand. I spent 3 days in that dream. I was told by god that i was to make an account of what i witnessed. Then i was lead around the world by Gabriel and shown the seals being broken and witnessed the faithful being called up to heaven. I watched as people i knew and didn't know were tortured by satan and his legion.I saw famine, mass genocide, torture, rape, of women men and children of all ages/race/origin. I would be allowed to rest each night and then Gabriel would wake me up and announce the things i was to see that day and accompany me to them. Needless to say, i woke up screaming my head off, thankful it was a dream. It was the most vivd, realistic non-lucid dream i've ever had. I dropped that religion a couple years later.....

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It's a sign! :panic:

My god lol. Think of it..... pwning satan and jesus if you're Lucid... Hahahahaha

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Originally Posted by LiveInTheDream

Wow, I didn't realize there would be quite so much interest in that dream!

You can read it in my DJ...obviously, it's REALLY freaking long because I was writing so much content into it, and you can read it by clicking here, but it's not really a fond memory of mine...I was faced with a lot of dark stuff about myself in that one, and even though I was lucid, I was strangely out of control, so it was more like three months of living hell than anything else. Had I been able to exercise some form of dream control that would have been a TON different, of course, but nothing worked...at all. It wasn't even like things changed, but not in the way I wanted exactly. No, things just didn't change at all, no matter what I did. I couldn't even wake myself up trying.

As for all the questions about how I measured time, obviously we're not talking three real months, so in a way, it's a bit of an irrelevant detail. I saw the sun rise every morning and set every night and due to the limited nature of the dream I had to go to sleep and wake up each time it did. The time in between these occurrences was probably varied, but each one felt like a full day, and going to sleep inside the dream made the nights feel complete as well. I always kept track of how many days had passed by, since time was an essential player in the 'storyline' of the lucid nightmare, and I knew that as soon as three months had gone by I could get out.

I also knew the time because there were DC's keeping track of it for me. My authorities, actually, or prison-keepers, however you wish to see it. Even though I kept track of things personally, they seemed to know better than I did when each month would be done.

Oh well, I don't know how to make much more sense without everyone having read through the dream and knowing what details I'm referring to...so I'll just let that suffice for now.

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Wow, that's an amazing dream. Epic dream is epic.

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Originally Posted by MementoMori

interesting.... i don't know about the 105 years. I'd probably wake up insane lol.

Although, in my younger years (10-11) i was just coming into realization of my previouse faith (Christianity) and finding out about what it was and it's prophecies. After many reads of the bible and (i was a child, sue me) reading the tabloids and going to church, i formed a crippling fear that judgment day was very much at hand. I spent a year watching the skies, trembling at every red moon, and hiding from an eclipse. Finally it accumulated into one night where i fell asleep fearing that i would wake up in the presence of the almighty jesus (pfhh). That night i had a dream that indeed the day of judgment was at hand. I spent 3 days in that dream. I was told by god that i was to make an account of what i witnessed. Then i was lead around the world by Gabriel and shown the seals being broken and witnessed the faithful being called up to heaven. I watched as people i knew and didn't know were tortured by satan and his legion.I saw famine, mass genocide, torture, rape, of women men and children of all ages/race/origin. I would be allowed to rest each night and then Gabriel would wake me up and announce the things i was to see that day and accompany me to them. Needless to say, i woke up screaming my head off, thankful it was a dream. It was the most vivd, realistic non-lucid dream i've ever had. I dropped that religion a couple years later.....

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Well, I won't say any more on that than this post, because it's a bit off-topic, but my dream in no way disproves Christianity...and I hope you'll reconsider it for yourself, not as a religion, but as a relationship. What was going on in my own dream was a result of some issues I had in my life at the time, but after hearing the lies of the G-Man and realizing that they hit at the very core of those issues, I was able to identify and eliminate them. So in the end it was a good thing, and not something that would cause me to believe something else.

Ok I'm done thread jacking now...just felt like that needed to be said ;)

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Originally Posted by Motumz

It's a sign! :panic:

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lol, Run for your lives!! nah hope i didn't come off as crazy haha, i was little with a very vivid imagination.

@ LiveInTheDream:
I'm sorry but that was one of the events that turned me away from that religion. It felt like i had been coerced into truly fearing that god, and i didn't like living like that, so throughout the years after some serious research and inner searching i found myself at a place of new beliefs. Again sorry for the off-topicness, on that note: I wonder if spending too much time in a dream could cause you to question which is real...

LiveInTheDream

No need to say anything regarding religion... Doesn't matter if dreams caused anyone to not believe.

I've been doing a bit of googling and I've found a few other people that have experienced these things. Both of them have said that they have had dreams that seem to last anywhere from several weeks to a year but nothing as long as 105 years.

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Originally Posted by LiveInTheDream

Honestly, I wasn't sure how long I was going to be stuck there, and it was so real that lucid dreaming or not I figured I might as well really live there.

And yes she did, but it still didn't end up well...I mean duh, like things could have gone well :cheeky:

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You didn't dream for 3 months. You had a dream that you were dreaming for 3 months. People forget that in the same way your brain can make you forget your dreaming it can also make up fake memories to replace them.

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Originally Posted by SystemsLock

You didn't dream for 3 months. You had a dream that you were dreaming for 3 months. People forget that in the same way your brain can make you forget your dreaming it can also make up fake memories to replace them.

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Exactly what I was thinking.

It's not the amount of time that changes. It's your perception of time. You can do a full day routine 105 times in a dream to make it seem like 105 days, but it's still the same 1 hour that you're dreaming in.

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Originally Posted by ReachingForTheDream

Exactly what I was thinking.

It's not the amount of time that changes. It's your perception of time. You can do a full day routine 105 times in a dream to make it seem like 105 days, but it's still the same 1 hour that you're dreaming in.

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.... You all realize that that's exactly what LiveInTheDream was saying, right? Not that he'd been asleep for 3 real-life months and had dreamed the entire time, but that his dream felt as though it spanned 3 months of his perceived time?

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Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

.... You all realize that that's exactly what LiveInTheDream was saying, right? Not that he'd been asleep for 3 real-life months and had dreamed the entire time, but that his dream felt as though it spanned 3 months of his perceived time?

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Thank you! I was just getting on here to say that myself :cheeky:

In fact, I don't think the original post was talking about entering a state of permanent sleep and never waking up, but just if its possible to bend your perception of time so that a lucid dream feels like its lasting a long time. Who'd honestly want to try to stay asleep for months on end? You'd die from starvation sooner or later, never mind the other health problems that would be involved...

I think a lot of this has to do with false memories giving the illusion of a long dream. Sometimes I will have a short dream in which I have a long memory of living in a certain place, or being a certain character. The dream itself may only last an instant, but I somehow immediately know exactly what events led up to that instant.

I don't discount those false memories. After all, dreams themselves are false memories.

Indeed - false signals from the pons being sent to the sense-interpreting locations of the brain are what produce those dreams we think are so real, but it's all unreal. Our remembering of our dreams is true memory; our dreams themselves are false memory.

I recall seeing a bit about the 105 year LD guy but I'm not sure that the website was that reputable, it had a lot of unbelievable stuff on it.

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Originally Posted by Andy2014

I was reading something online that said it was possible to slow down or stop reap time during a dream. It said that there was a guy who had a lucid dream that lasted 105 years but in waking life it was only one night. Have any of you ever heard of this or done it.

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I think i read something like this in LaBerges book Exploring the World of Lucid Draeming. pretty ridiculous even if it is you mind creating false memories of you being there that long.

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Originally Posted by Andy2014

I was reading something online that said it was possible to slow down or stop reap time during a dream. It said that there was a guy who had a lucid dream that lasted 105 years but in waking life it was only one night. Have any of you ever heard of this or done it.

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The point isn't to slow down time in a dream but to speed it up. Like it's in fast forward but you don't notice a difference so it seems way longer than the time you slept.

So you could live a whole day in your dream but it would only be like 5 minutes in real life. So the concept is to trick your brain into thinking it was longer than it really was.

I just read your DJ entry and that made me wonder. Was that more than a dream?

I have a cousin who is an avid LD'er, and says he has had dreams years long. I believe him (we are very close and have actually confirmed having the same dream before) and he says he did it by finding a clock shaped like his own heart and setting a switch on it to "super-slow".

lol, i was gonna come in and answer this thread by saying it was and has to be false memories, but it looks like alot people already did that for me : P

Once i felt like i was in a dream for a week. But all it was was my brain skiping parts and filling them in when i woke up.:roll:

I'm sure you would be psychologically impacted if you actually dreamt a whole 105 years.