Originally Posted by
kingofhypocrites
Steven Laberge scientifically studied lucidity and is a master by any account. He stated they there was no evidence that people could sustain unnaturally long periods of REM through lucid dreaming. If someone is able to sustain a 4 hour REM period, they should be studied and could probably win a world record. Looking at a clock is not reliable. There is no way to know actually the moment you entered a lucid unless you can wild in like 2 mins and furthermore no way to know for sure you wake up directly after the dream ended or whether or not there were gaps inbetween your dreams with non-rem periods. It is very easy to have multiple dreams in one long dream sequence without realizing it. Just like there are people who claim they never fall asleep but once tested they find they microsleep and had absolutely no awareness they were even sleeping. I have personally watched an hour lapse while looking at a clock with no percepted lapse in time. I meditate and find time moves rates your conscious mind does not always perceive. To say find some study where someone had a long REM period without lucidity... lucidity is nothing magical sorry to tell you. I do think it's theoretically possible to lengthen a dream perhaps due to the fact that lucid dreaming is much like deep hypnosis (in regards to brainwave pattern), and in hypnosis one clearly has control over the biology over the body; although there is no evidence once can provide hypnotic suggestion within a lucid dream. You ask me for studies on where something is possible without lucid dreaming, show me ONE study where somone had a four hour lucid. I would love to see it. Once again, probably possible, but don't pretend looking at a clock is scientific evidence. Real science disproves peoples "perceptions" of the truth all the time.