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It will probably also take a few attempts to learn to fall back asleep without losing conciousness, but it's definitely easier than WBTB-WILD in my opinion. It's definitely smooth smailing from the point you learn to stay completely stay still onwards, but don't forget it's still possible to do this after moving! Just stop moving the second you realize that you are awake, and then start again with visualizing again. Good luck either way ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Azul
Oh yea without a doubt it's easier than a WBTB-WILD haha I'll train for that in a few months, oh ok so it IS still possible to have one after movement I keep hearing that. Thanks for the info man I appreciate it!
Should I say a mantra before bed...or...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyguy
You could do that, but it isn't required. Just be sure to think it and concentrate on the thought. If you do that, thinking it once before falling asleep should be enough. If you still don't recognize your awakenings after a week, then I do recommend using a mantraQuote:
Originally Posted by TheModernNinja
Yes! It's very possible :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Azul
Don't give up straight away if you move, for some people it's actually really hard for them not to move when they wake up, like the have to move their arm or something. It's just a matter of falling asleep quickly, so your conciousness follows through. Moving is absolutely fine as long as it's kept to a degree where it has minimal effect on your ability to fall back asleep.
Thanks goodness man I'm so glad I can re-adjust myself a tad bit to get a little comfortable. I actually think I have gotten that down the only thing is whenever I try to attempt a DEILD is I think I become too aware of what's going on but I still have the groggy feeling.
You have moved me! I was afraid of sleep paralysis for about a month ,but now I think I will be ok thanks to that little paragraph you wrote there.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuppie11975
I was just looking for these words somewhere on the internet and found them in your message. I will try DEILD AND I WILL SUCCEED HAVING A LUCID DREAM! Thank you Yuppie.
Anytime man, glad I could help! :)
Tell me how it goes
Ok thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyguy
I think I got the hang of it now! 2 DEILDs in 2 days! And my LD's are also getting more and more stable! The potentials of having regular stable lucids are finally getting into view :D
It's a great method, right?!
Once you get it down pat, there's no reason why you can't have a lucid every single night, you know what I mean!?
Congrats! Since I "left" to try and get my recall better, nothing has happened. My recall hasn't improved either, and I don't know why. I do remember about a dream a night though, so I am going to start working on this method again. Sounds like you have the hang of it!
Thanks everyone :D I just figured out some more stuff, so I think I might have understood it completely now! So now is the time to share it, discuss it and get some more practical experience. This is a PM I just wrote about it
That last part was a bit unclear, but I was talking about giving up and just falling asleep hoping to get a DILD.Quote:
I realized that WILD was all a balance between awareness and falling asleep. Focussing too much on awareness leads to not being able to fall asleep, focussing too much on falling asleep leads to falling into non-lucid sleep. For falling asleep, I used the technique described in my thread (link in the signature), but this time I tried to stay a slight bit aware. Also, I didn't visualize this time, I just let my brain come up with pictures while attempting so stay aware. Even when I thought I had failed, I realized later that I had seen stuff, meaning I was actually quite close.
And one more tip. For me, I tend to give up and just fall asleep quite quickly, but after reflection, I just realized that I stop attempting DEILD way too soon, and that continuing to try might be the key. Not sure if that goes for you too, but it might be a good idea to keep that in the back of your mind.
I finally had my first DEILD! haha I didn't exactly re-enter the dream but I laid still, felt vibrations over my body and heard some loud bangs. I waited a few more seconds to open my eyes and I was still in my room and it was EXACTLY the same as when I went to sleep. I looked at the clock and it read 7:15, I turned my head and looked back then it read :15! Ha lucid! It felt too real, I actually had to perform several reality checks to make sure I was actually dreaming still. All in all it was a great experience, thanks Yuppie :shadewink:
I had a question. If I move a little after the dream (forget to stay completely still).
It will be very hard to "go back inside" ?
I'm still learning to continue completely still.
On my first lucid dream when I accidentally DEILDed, I opened my eyes and even moved my hand to reality check, but still DEILDed without problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubens
It makes me happy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RareCola
Hope I will be able to do a DEILD soon, I wake up a very often after my dreams.
It takes a little longer, but it is definitely possible to DEILD after movingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rubens
Azul - Good job man! ;)
Ruben- Yeah, it's cool. It varies from person to person, but a little bit is fine! :D Good luck
Thanks guys, this night I had a FA and tried a DEILD in the FA oO'
I achieved the SP but couldn't go to the dream state, then I gave up and tried to "sleep again", after sleeping in the dream I woke up for real .-.
Don't give up Rubens, trust me keep working at it and you will be rewarded! Took me about two weeks but that was after my first few lucids.
Very nice guide there Yuppie. Well done.
Anyway, I had a run in with SP a few days ago. I gently awoke from a dream and just laid there with my eyes shut and suddenly entered SP just as I remembered about DEILDing. My whole body felt numb, maybe a little vibratey, and my head was ringing (like when you're sometimes in a very quiet room). I tried to enter a dream but couldn't decide on what scene to create and I thought it would have taken too long to go back into a dream and I got scared of possible hallucinations/noises so I snapped myself out of it after about 8 seconds by taking a few quick, short breaths (which worked very well). I really don't wanna be so afraid though. Tonight I overslept and was laying in bed, wanting to get up but way too drowsy (I tried checking the time on my phone by trying to press the power button on my phone without even having it in my hand. Twice...) Then I had some random image of a fly followed by a SP kind of feeling in my stomach which made me throw myself up so I didn't enter SP, followed by disappointment...
I really want to learn not to be such a big chicken. SP is a great shortcut to an amazing land where I can do whatever I want, not a trap for demons to torment me. I need my subconscious to realize that too...
What the words "give up" mean ? Don't know this words, never heard them in my life xD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azul
I won't :)
OFF: What your nick means azul ? "Azul" is "blue" in portuguese.
Cheers man, means alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triforce
Well, primarily you basically need to just be aware that sleep parlysis is ABSOLUTELY HARMLESS!
You shouldn't have "snapped yourself out of it" sounds life you were really close, you just need to go with it.
Put it this way, it's basically like you sitting in a room, and imagining some scary stuff. Who cares?! It's just your imagination!
Think of the benefits, endure a few minutes of this at the most, and be transported to a world where ANYTHING is possible!
It's no worse than a nightmare, and once you reassure yourself that nothing can happen to you, it's kind of fun!
At the end, it comes down to you. There's not much more I can say. Just believe in yourself! Tell me how it goes. :)
Lol good man I'm glad you're motivated haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubens
Yea I know it means "blue" as for blue is my favorite color :D