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Didn't know that either until Michelle told me!! Nicer than being in a mental hospital for playing telephone you know!! :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by InTheMoment
I didn't realize they were both one in the same.Quote:
You know, it is alot nicer to just go to the meetings (for the mentally impaired & the mentally enhanced),
/me wonders where the mentally perverted go.[/b]
Nesgirl... To be blunt, that's a pretty selfish way of putting it.
If I am able to do the challenge one day, it'll be because I want to put an end to this argument, and show the world what it doesn't yet know. Not for the money, although money would be nice :P
I'm not one for this bull of not being able to do it around believers, and negative energy, etc. And I'm also willing to demonstrate it to the world if I get the chance.
seeker, what i was getting at is that many people will not believe unless they see it face to face, not this kinda thing anyway.
cd
cd, that is what the scientific method is for. I didn't see the experiments performed by Mendel, which was the founding experiment in the field of genetics. However, I have studied his experiments and am convinced of their validity.Quote:
Originally posted by cd27
seeker, what i was getting at is that many people will not believe unless they see it face to face, not this kinda thing anyway.
cd
One does not have to see face to face in order to believe. In fact, if someone walked up to me on the street and performed some Psi on me, I would be extremely skeptical and suspect I was being tricked.
Perhaps I am too critical or too blinded by my profession, I don't know. All I am really asking for is a verifiable and repeatable series of experiments.
Remember, people thought Lucid Dreaming was a bunch of hoodoo, relegated to the ranks of the occult until Dr. LaBerge performed his research.
there are many things out thre which are true, and others which are false. it is often difficult to draw the line. i assure you, if i had the people with the knowledge, and the money, i could test my theory right now.
cd
That's what I keep saying! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Seeker
Remember, people thought Lucid Dreaming was a bunch of hoodoo, relegated to the ranks of the occult until Dr. LaBerge performed his research.
On James Randi's forum they had a thread asking if any 'woo's (kookiness) had produced an advantage of any sort.
Lucid dreaming is the first that comes to mind. If nothing else, it makes people think about what reality and awareness actually IS!
:D thanks, that'ss what i've been tryin to say too!! lol
cd
Hey! At least I am letting people study it somewhere, not for Science, but just so they get to know us better. I don't want to be locked up in a mental hospital for doing something like that....besides, Michelle has all the money she needs.Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
Nesgirl... To be blunt, that's a pretty selfish way of putting it.
If I am able to do the challenge one day, it'll be because I want to put an end to this argument, and show the world what it doesn't yet know. Not for the money, although money would be nice :P
I'm not one for this bull of not being able to do it around believers, and negative energy, etc. And I'm also willing to demonstrate it to the world if I get the chance.
I am not good at doing those kind of these things right in front of people, b/c I have stage fright....for example, while I was waiting for a swimming pool to open, I just started playing card concentration, when a kid asked, "Hey! What are you playing?" I told him, "Card Concentration.." Then a crowd gathered, & that made me nervous enough to goof (this isn't the 1st time.....I goof up at anything when people are watching me....especially audiences...)
And who says I am only doing this for myself....that would be kind of rude....in actuality, I do it for my family & boss at work (he's wants to take me to a lottery when I am old enough, actually!). I use it quite frequently on multiple choice tests, & I do it all I want at the meetings w/Michelle.
Placebo, if you want to talk more, you might want to PM me!!
Alright, it just came across as 'I don't need the money'. Time will tell if anybody manages to show the world. Things are getting more and more heated all the time about this, IMO.
Well, also, I have been hurt from 7th grade, a scar that will 4ever be remembered, & I would prefer that wouldn't happen again!Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
Alright, it just came across as 'I don't need the money'. Time will tell if anybody manages to show the world. Things are getting more and more heated all the time about this, IMO.
Besides, what is really that great in the categories of S_____, telephone, & being a guess wizard anyways....?
It can change the world as we know it, if we could only understand and verify it ;)Quote:
Originally posted by nesgirl119
Well, also, I have been hurt from 7th grade, a scar that will 4ever be remembered, & I would prefer that wouldn't happen again!
Besides, what is really that great in the categories of S_____, telephone, & being a guess wizard anyways....?
How could it? All it is is winning lotteries, helping out my boss, flying around exploring, or trying to communicate in a way that gets Michelle & I in less trouble!!Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
It can change the world as we know it, if we could only understand and verify it ;)
Besides, when I told my teacher that this person had games on the brain when he said he was going to do his assignment, the teacher understood, & the students got mad at me!!
um, are we still on topic or what?
cd
I guess not. We should start a different thread on it, except that I have nothing else to say. It's not just about lottery winnings, but I'm not in the mood to explain why (and I dont have the time - I'm standing in a building site at night with a computer :shock: ) . I thought it was fairly obvious.Quote:
Originally posted by cd27
um, are we still on topic or what?
that's well....i don't know, this is kind screwed up...lol
cd
It's my fault...Placebo....sorry... :(
Open offer.
I will come to you. I will first submit to a full background check if you desire.
I will bring the appropriate non-invasive equipment.
I will document it. With my track record in invention (Eight exceptionall successful extreme-tech startups where I was either the CEO, COO, or most commonly, CTO. Numerous peer-review writeups.), I'll be heard to a pretty reasonable level in peer review.
I will sign a Non Disclosure regarding your name/location/etc. if you prefer to remain anonymous.
I'll even go so far as to propose methods of shielding the equipment from any possible "negative energy" and physically remove and shield myself. I don't have to be some place to observe something. A farraday cage would go a long way towards answering that.
Just to go on-record: I don't "believe" anything. I don't "disbelieve" anything either. I'm an observer. And I've spent my life attempting to emulate the best of the applied scientists. Observe. Document. Bring it back and THEN tear it apart to find out WHY. Don't go into something believing it is crap. Emotion has no place in the observation. For me, Emotion gets to come out and play at the wildass party you throw afterwards. ;)
My big problem with the majority of the pure-theoretical scientists I've known is that they are just as inclined to "believe" something as those they espouse against. "Belief" is a VERY big part of "disBelief"...
Prepare yourself for either a barrage of excuses or no replies at all.
And that's cool too.
I've had this offer open for more years than I care to remember. Back a good number of years ago I ran into some phenomena I had difficulty explaining. I'd love to go back and retest with the equipment and knowledge I now have access to. . .
Unfortunately, the Internet allows a level of anonymity that calls veracity into question rather often. Reminds me of the CB radio days in many ways. . . You can pretty much say anything with 100% anonymity and zero risk of real-world reprocussion. . .
But someday someone is going to take me up on it and there won't be any excuses when I show up with almost 4000 lbs of gear, and I'm going to be there to document that time.
Then when I trust my observations, I'll go to bat, and I'll swing for the fences. I'm waaaay tooo obnoxious to be ignored. I've done well enough historically that I could be black-listed for the rest of my life and it would have no effect other than to amuse me.
So I'm really not afraid of either side of the discussion.
Well, you've just risen to the top of my list of who I'll contact first :)
But first I'm going to have to become good enough to make it fairly repeatable and testable.
Right now it isn't, and I'd just be wasting people's time.
The rest of this year is going to be about getting my life back to normal, then next year can become interesting again :)
um, w hat's this for?
cd
Please video this Placebo. I cannot afford join kimpossible on this trip.Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
Well, you've just risen to the top of my list of who I'll contact first :)
what trip?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!
cd
If you'd care to read back a bit, you'll read that kimpossible offered to test anybody personally who has a psychic claim, since he has the resources and admirable mindset to do it.Quote:
Originally posted by cd27
what trip?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!
I said that I'd be happy to do so, once I feel I'm ready. And that won't be until sometime next year or later - at best.
Seeker - you bet I'd record it :D
But lets not get too excited before I have anything worth testing :P
oh, well i got some friends that may be interested. so, let me see what they say.
cd