iPhone app of all....

The idea here is to research and observe what anyone else has done right, wrong or not at all and put together a swiss army app for all dreaming needs.

I will be looking for more people specifically that want to participate in testing (iphones/iPods) as well as people just interested in giving feedback on concepts.

Right now i myself am new to the Lucid dreaming concept and must first achieve a solid understanding of the information and techniques.

If anyone here has a great wide variety of experience and success (many years) i would be most interested in holding short interviews or direct mentoring so i can put the best creative mind into the app.

Thank you all for your support so far and your messages.

M

Id love to test it out! If you need any interviews just PM me and we can set up a time that works for the both of us. We could meet in the dreamviews IRC, or Skype. Whatever works for you. :D

Think it was Aquiana(sp?) the mod who said, once something becomes mainstream, people will try to make money off it. Now, I approve of this idea and all, but you admit yourself you dont know much about it and dont have a full understanding, you just found a way to make money off of people and decided too. Oh well.

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Think it was Aquiana(sp?) the mod who said, once something becomes mainstream, people will try to make money off it. Now, I approve of this idea and all, but you admit yourself you dont know much about it and dont have a full understanding, you just found a way to make money off of people and decided too. Oh well.

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There are people who try to make money off of LD. But i dont think this guy is one of them. If he was then he wouldnt be trying to make an effort on this app. He is going to WORK on this app so why not make a little money for his time, its not like thousands of people are going to by a lucid dreaming app, much less even know it exist.

I would rather him makes this app AND him make money then this app not existing at all. Your being to sensitive about this.

Also just because he doesnt know much about LD doesnt mean that he doesnt care about it. As soon as I found out about lucid dreamind i have been in love with it. So dont discredit this guy, give him a chance.

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Do all those apps even work?

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I am not the best person to ask that questions seeing as I don't even have one lucid to date, but I guess it depends on what you're asking.
If you are asking do they all work to get a person lucid, I am sure different ones work for different people.
The apps do a variety of different things. The brainwave application works for me in the way that it relaxes me very quickly and I am able to get to SP a lot faster. Plus it's just plain fun how it makes my body feel. The sleep log works as a useful tool to figure out when my sleep cycles start and stop. Useful for WBTB and WILD approaches. The app that tells me I am dreaming in the middle of my REM cycle is my favourite, though it hasn't gotten me to the lucid stage yet, no. Right now it tends to wake me up, so I think I need to fiddle with the volume or try to run it without earbuds. It does work for many other people from what I've read though. There is a thread about that here. As for the subliminal messages and hypno-suggestion kind of tracks, again, I am sure they work for some people, unfortunately I'm not one of them. I sometimes use them to relax as I am falling asleep or using MILD.

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I think it's Aquanina.

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the mod who said, once something becomes mainstream, people will try to make money off it. Now, I approve of this idea and all, but you admit yourself you dont know much about it and dont have a full understanding, you just found a way to make money off of people and decided too. Oh well.

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The concern is understandable, as there are many out there who will try to make money off of us poor schleps who want to get lucid and will buy just about anything to help the process. However, I believe in paying for good products and good quality work. I think it unlikely that MEOUCH is one of the ones trying to get rich quick with a shoddy product. The fact that he is asking for testers and our opinions on what we want in an application is evidence of that for me. In my opinion, there is no harm in seeing a need in the market, knowing you can supply that demand, and using your skills and time to do just that in exchange for money.

I would love to beta test for Android. I am very critical to things. Could also give advice to design on the UI

Oh btw would it be for iPad too? If not that's okay, I can use an iPhone/iPod app. But yep I'd love to test it.

I thought of this too. And maybe you could add a feature that can post/read dream journals with this website. I am a programmer, and have decent experience with android app development, and I am learning to develop iPhone/iPad apps. I would be delighted to help with this app.

Bumping for support. Just wanted to state my thoughts on the matter. I agree that it would be an amazing app, and I know that passion can come from nowhere. More or less, I think that if someone is VERY passionate about what they do, they would want to spread the love to everyone. Owsley gave away alot of his "work" because he knew it was for the greater good. A change in consciousness is what the world needs right now, and I believe that LD's and a searching for the true inner "you" is what will really get things in motion. With the power of social networking etc, and the fact that as someone said in another post, you really need nothing to get started, I see no reason why more and more people wouldnt be joining the group in the future. At the same time though, more and more bullshit will be out and about. More things out there for people to buy in hopes of a miracle LD and just get nothing in return. Thus turning them away from the whole thing. IF the developer was really passionate, it would be free on release for the first few months. Almost like an open beta. Then once the word spread and enough people wanted it, because it was amazing, then charge for it. Thats all.

God job, and well said. A toast, to goodness.

A voice recorder so you can record your dreams by voice.

Make a Lite version that has ads and only has something that calculates you REM or something.

Make the full version like 99 cents and you can include things like a DEILD alarm and an alarm that will wake you up during your REM. You could also add like voice commands that your iPad/ iPhone will say to you when you are sleeping.

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A voice recorder so you can record your dreams by voice.

Make a Lite version that has ads and only has something that calculates you REM or something.

Make the full version like 99 cents and you can include things like a DEILD alarm and an alarm that will wake you up during your REM. You could also add like voice commands that your iPad/ iPhone will say to you when you are sleeping.

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No. Honestly, unless you are working on this full time there is no need to charge for it.

I think this app sounds like a cool idea, especially since i'm a noob at lucid dreaming. Does anyone have any iPod/iPhone apps to help with lucid dreaming that seems to work?

This may be the only time me and Aktw4 agree.

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No. Honestly, unless you are working on this full time there is no need to charge for it.

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Why? Are people really so cheap that they won't pay 99 cents?

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Why? Are people really so cheap that they won't pay 99 cents?

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Do you have any idea how much it costs to make an app? Absolutely nothing.

So the best thing i can tell you is go for it make an app for nothing and share with the masses.

And make sure to post here so we can all see it. :)

And as far as the cost of the app vs. free it is far to soon in the process to entertain.

It will most likely not be free but will have a variation of free initially, reduced sales periods, giveaways, etc...

Thanks everyone for your support and input! I will be contacting more of you directly soon and taking the effort
off the forums as the concept solidifies. Then unveiling near release!

Thanks again.
M

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So the best thing i can tell you is go for it make an app for nothing and share with the masses.

And make sure to post here so we can all see it. :)

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You say it like it's a challenge. Plenty of devs release their work for free.

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You say it like it's a challenge. Plenty of devs release their work for free.

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Well not him, enough said, leave it alone. You don't have to buy the app!!

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Although I do think there should be a free version that provides people with all of the tools given in the paid version, I don't think you have any say in how he chooses to distribute his application. After all, it is his application that he is making. He has the right to profit from it if he chooses to. That's how entrepreneurism works.


If enough people want a free application like this one, then it will most likely be made in time. It isn't very hard to make in my opinion; I'm barely learning how to develop on the Android platform and I can already safely say that this application wouldn't take much work to produce. I would elaborate more on the simplicity of the mechanics, but I'm not the one producing the application.

I think that if MEOUCH is nice enough to create an app, then the least we should do is pay for it. At least a buck. I mean, everything has a price. That is, if MEOUCH even STICKS with it and doesn't drop the idea and stop posting about, which a lot of people do. I did for a couple years, but now I'm back. This is my first post in at least a year.

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I think that if MEOUCH is nice enough to create an app, then the least we should do is pay for it. At least a buck. I mean, everything has a price. That is, if MEOUCH even STICKS with it and doesn't drop the idea and stop posting about, which a lot of people do. I did for a couple years, but now I'm back. This is my first post in at least a year.

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Exactly.

Personally, I prefer Isochronic Tones over Binaural Beats, BB requires stereo and sometimes you just don't wanna sleep with earbuds in or you want to sleep on your side.

I second the timer that shuts itself off -- I've made a 100 minute MP3 that has strong but not overpowering blips at the 90 minute mark (the rough average time between each REM cycle), but it hasn't really helped much. Something that's easily adjustable might be nice.

I've heard you can move a finger and not ruin your attempt to reenter a dream, so perhaps an option for a timer/alarm that doesn't have a hideous alert noise, but a slow higher Alpha 14Hz tone, that you can just hit with your finger once and it shuts off (of course you'd have to go to bed with the iPhone and/or iPad in your hand, but I can't wrapped my head around WILDing in bed anyway, I have a "chamber" for that, lol.

Perhaps something (heck, now I wanna look into this myself) that you can enter the time you had a lucid dream, and it tracks and maps your REM cycle? My most vivid and interesting lucid dream since I restarted in January was had in the first, 1:30hour mark of REM. This could help with more accurate WBTB alerts.

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Well not him, enough said, leave it alone. You don't have to buy the app!!

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Yeah, but why not? I would like that explained to me.