Simple, I know several people who lucid naturally. One who has been doing so for nearly all her life, and has no headache problems. And you need new doctors, then <.<
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Simple, I know several people who lucid naturally. One who has been doing so for nearly all her life, and has no headache problems. And you need new doctors, then <.<
MY gosh, I'm soooo jealous of you. I struggle and struggle to become lucid and it never happens.
And the worst thing is that you actually don't want to have lucid dreams, you do realize that you can literally be a God in your dream and do whatever you want? How is that bad. Argh I'm so jealous
...no, I can't be God in my dreams lol and I'll never try to be one.
But I do have strange abilities in my dreams especially when in desperate need. (teleportation-short distance, flying-limited height, running as fast as car..etc.)
Here are some examples of my dream's layout.
Last last night, I had double layer dream, means I have to wake 2 times. When I met a serious problem at the 2nd layer dream, I forced myself out of that scene and to wake on the 1st layer. And when I felt it was safe enough, I went back to the 2nd layer to investigate furthur. lol weird, leaving me tired in the morning.
While last night, I completed my whatever mission that is for the night, and resolved to waking in dreams and shocking to reality.
Means, I woke up from my 2nd layer dream (have mission-finally completed and forgotten due to shock) and went to 1st layer dream (no mission-location: in my living room feeling calm and peaceful as my senses slowly wake me)
and suddenly "^%#$%#&!!" my grandma shouted on the phone...and the image of me standing in my living room shattered, leaving me Super confused.
Arh! See? I've never gotten any real nice sleep at night without lucid dreams. As for getting new doctors, my parents say waste money..'think too much my prob'
To Kurt, don't worry if you wanna be lucid, I'm sure there'll be lots of useful information on this forum to help you. And with every night's try, definitely one night will happen. I'm sure of it.
Hm, shinice, do you want to meet the girl I know is a natural? Maybe she can help you out with it.
Who? Is she anyway like me? Except for being Natural.
Well, you said that we can't understand since we aren't natural, so that should solve that last part of doubt, right? I mean, if other naturals don't have the headache problem, it should be proof enough that lucidity itself isn't the problem.
Dreams have nothing to do with being tired. You can have the biggest adventure of your life and wake up feeling great. What you are describing are not lucid dreams. From what i understand from your post anyway. Lucid dreams are were you are aware that you are dreaming. And if you are aware you should be able to handle the dream and have great adventures.
Also what i think is happening is that your having sleep paralysis in the morning. Although everyone has SP at night that keep them from acting out there dreams. You should not be waking up and still in sleep paralysis every morning. Its happened to me a few times and thats normal, but if its every morning you should see a professional because you probably have some sort of sleeping disorder.
Well I did handle my dreams all the time and have great adventures. There are lots to discover and venture in those foreign worlds in my dreams, each accompanying with missions..but, its just tiring..or I would've liked it.
And its just like..like..you all are using some other source of energy to help lucid, however..it seems that I'm directly using my mental energy to do it.
Huh? What do you mean by 'wake up and still SP every morning'? And Normal people SP at night? Whats SP exactly?
You seems to know quite some things that I do not. Explain please?
SP is sleep paralysis. Everyone has it at night so that they are paralyzed and can't act out there dreams. Click the link in my signature for more info.
It seems that you are having effects of that in the morning.
So you mean I have SP in the morn instead of night?
And that includes the weariness I have after LD every morn?
I think the best thing that you can do is see a professional.
Okie..
Then what do you say of me being able to lucid without methods? Every night some more?
And what kind of professional do you mean? Neuroscience doctors don't work..
Since nobodyy seemed to answer your earlier question at the top of this thread...... I will attempt to do so. Though i have not to my knowledge experienced a Lucid dream, i have done much much reading on the subject and i assure you the dreams your are having however strenuous are not the cause of your headaches. More than likely your headaches are the result of SP otherwise known as Sleep Paralysis. It occurs when suddenly jarred from sleep to conscienceness while in the middle of REM cycle sleep. It can also occur if the REM cycle last abnormally long and the body has trouble re-engaging the Neurons that power the Voluntary nervous system. Either way the person generally experiences some slight anxiety and or a fear because their muscles and other functions do not operate normally for a period of time after they awake. If you ARE experiencing sleep paralysis then i suggest you contact a sleep doctor for suggestions. Or at least ask a sleep doctor if you need tests run. A regular MD or physician will not be able to help with the condition. If the uncomfortableness of Sleep Paralysis causes stress to you in the early morning or upon waking then the stresss could be the cause of the headaches as when stressed the body tends to tense up and unstretched muscles that tense quickly, as in being startled by a noise of some sort, Have a tendency to hurt worse than muscles that have had time to be used after waking up. I hope this helped. Just understand that the dreams themselves are not the cause of headaches. If your Lucid dreams are confrontational and fighting in nature then it is because your own mind is using those scenarios to act out some innner feealing or some action that your conscience mind prohibits you from doing in the Waking world either because of your morals or creed. The reson for your headaches lies in a Physical condition in the waking world. Scientific fact that all pain is caused by a PHYSICAL reaction to stimuli. So the non physical and phsycological aspect of the dream would not be the cause of your pain.
Hmm..well thanks. Made sense.
Its just the wrong way I phrase it thats all..
My headaches are still because of whatever thats causing the weird way I LD..wrong again?
And I see you all need methods to LD, like its so hard.
Not everyone needs methods to LD, just most people. There are several naturals over DV (And none of them presents the headaches), I still insist that you need a new doctor.
Great..just had a completed dream today.
You mean lucid dream! But at least you managed to complete it this time <.<
My complete means, knowing that I'm returning 'home'.
Like there is this kindergarden child asking me 'Aren't you going home?'
Then I reply 'Yeh' before I woke up.
It felt better.
Well, something is something <.<
Wonder how can our mind create such real another world for us. With meanings some more..
It is amazing isn't it? A whole world there to explore, that was created by yourself, yet you don't know it!
Yeh too bad there's a headache accompanying me or..I would've loved it.
Just curious on how our mind can create another world. Sounds big.
And last of all..I didn't know..such random post..could, get, so many, views..lol.
Well, uh... didn't want to bring this earlier, but, my sister went through a time of having lucids out of the blue along with headaches. At around that time, she had some food problems, and she was also in her period, so yeah... thats why I believe the problem is hormonal <.<
Haha its ok. Anything can happen during those periods.
Though my problem is much more consistent, good to hear that I'm not the only one. But is she a Natural?
You can say my level of Lucidity is quite high in my dreams.
And I can only remember dreams, if I think about it when I wake
but it causes headache as well, so I don't usually recall a lot..just some main points is enough (better than none)
Not that I know, she does have them from time to time, but not regularly. The only time she did have them a lot, was around that time, but hasn't presented ever since.