fragments?

hi. is it possible that even though you have a lucid dream, when you can only remember fragments of your dream, then you can only remember fragments of that experience? I mean yes I just had a lucid dream though I cant perfectly call it a Lucid dream. i was in control and all but i just cant feel or maybe it just didnt met my expectation :D. still Im not very good at dream recall yet. so if i can only remember fragments of my dream even if i had a lucid one. I will still remember it as just that? fragments? :eek:

though I have read stuffs saying its like that. the "1st hand" info would still be the best :shadewink:

Yes, it is possible, I've had dreams where I did reality checks and became lucid, but I still questioned whether or not I was dreaming, and I was so focused on questioning my lucidity that eventually I forgot other events from the dream, and I only remembered fragments of it.

How long you sleep plays a factor in dreams being fragments to you. Sometimes you might remember dreams in your NON-REM stages of sleep, and those are usually shorter, which could be another reason why they can be remembered as fragments.

As long as you were aware that you were dreaming, it is a lucid dream. Sometimes we can forget that we were lucid in our dreams, and it's always good to have a steady Dream Journal so that your mind is geared towards remembering your dreams. That way, there's a low chance of you actually forgetting you were lucid.

And even when you do become lucid, you won't have complete control all the time (because it takes a lot of effort to change all of the fine details created by your subconscious, and normally for beginners, that would cause instability in their dreams and they might wake up).

When you get better with your recall, you will remember more dreams and events, and more dream signs. If you write down how you felt in the dream, you will be used to how it feels to be in a lucid dream. That's why it's always good to have a Dream Journal so that you can always glance back whenever you feel you need to see what's repeating in your dreams. (Meaning you'll pick up on what's common and increase the chance to become lucid).

The more you put into the Dream Journal, the less your dreams will feel like fragments, and there will be times where you just remember a part of a dream, and sometimes it might be random, but if you can remember it, try to put it down anyway just to help gradually build your recall. (That way all of those fragments where you wondered if you were lucid or not will easily become whole and clear to you).

Keeping up with your Dream journal isn't something you HAVE to do, but it is a useful.

Also, if you find it difficult trying to write/type everything down for your dreams, try to write down key points. This way, you can go back later and update it with more information, because the more you're focused on remembering your dreams, they will eventually come back into your memory. And writing down key points can be useful if you want to go back to sleep again and not forget what you remembered before that.

Hope this has helped! :)

And Welcome to Dreamviews!

thanks lot sis/bro. that just mean i have to practice gaining a whole memory of a dream :D

by the way at what you said here
"As long as you were aware that you were dreaming, it is a lucid dream. Sometimes we can forget that we were lucid in our dreams, and it's always good to have a steady Dream Journal so that your mind is geared towards remembering your dreams. That way, there's a low chance of you actually forgetting you were lucid."
you mean if I forget that I am dreaming or that Im in the real world. My consciousness will start to accept it as a reality thus me falling out of my lucidity and into a normal "dream". if that's true to a dream, then is there a possibility to get myself back into being lucid? or as much control it, as to which I could decide to be lucid or not? or that applies to pros?

oh and another quiet "wild" question. can we dream within a dream? like at inception? I have heard it was possible :shadewink:

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you mean if I forget that I am dreaming or that Im in the real world. My consciousness will start to accept it as a reality thus me falling out of my lucidity and into a normal "dream". if that's true to a dream, then is there a possibility to get myself back into being lucid? or as much control it, as to which I could decide to be lucid or not? or that applies to pros?

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Exactly, you want your mind to question the state your in, you want to be able to realize that for example, a squirrel gushing out rainbows from it's mouth has to be abnormal, so that you will question it and hopefully do reality checks to become lucid. And yes, if you accept things that are not normal and consider them as reality, most likely you will go back to being non-lucid (normal dreaming).

There is a possibility to become lucid again after that happens, many factors play a role in that.

-Identifying something else that is abnormal and you do a reality check to become lucid. (Basically another DILD; Dream Induced Lucid Dreaming or Dream Initiated Lucid Dreaming; same meaning, just a different word in the middle :P)
-A dream character or dream guide tells you you're in a dream, and you do a reality check to become lucid;
-Waking up after you had the dream and going back to the dream state with some awareness (WILD)
There are many things that cause lucidity again.

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oh and another quiet "wild" question. can we dream within a dream? like at inception? I have heard it was possible

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Ah Inception, that seems to be the epitome of motivation for lucid dreaming for some people (I know it did for me when I saw it after a few months of being here).

Yes, you can have a dream within a dream.

Especially if you have a false awakening after the dream. (where you think you're waking up in waking life but in fact are just having a dream of yourself waking up). That could be a way of having a dream within a dream.

Hope this helps!

And I'm a guy ;P

haha thanks lot bro :D

-A dream character or dream guide tells you you're in a dream, and you do a reality check to become lucid
now that is interesting very interesting. you mean that the subconscious can be trained or "program" to tell you that you are dreaming? I mean the "idea" is brilliant and id really like to try that out but how? (kinda not convince :shock:) i mean the subconscious shows a "language" (the images) base on your memories right? then how? :eek: :panic: its not like your going tell someone in "reality" "are you dreaming?" like 20 times right? :D or are you referring to the "guide?" my idea of a guide is that its a "solid" character of your subconscious in the dreamworld i mean more like a permanent hidden person within you with an independent movement and thinking and can also learn. that's way i can think for it to work :shadewink: correct me i got some things off ;)

Dream guides can be interpreted in many ways. Some people believe in Spirit Guides, but that is up to you to believe or not.

I'm still open to the possibility of having a spirit guide, but I won't fully believe unless I've first made a dream guide. To be honest, the environment in your dreams and everything around you in your dreams is the true form of your subconscious (I believe that).

And you don't really have to think of it as a training or program, unless you want to. I think of it as making a mutual relationship with a Dream Character that fits your preference. Of course, some people think Dream Guides have their own form, and they believe they've been with you all your life, but again that's up for you to find and believe or not.

And I mean the guide is telling you that you're dreaming.

There's a tutorial here if you even want to name your subconscious -->NST - Named Subconscious Technique - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views<--- (you can think of it as telling someone to remind you you're dreaming in reality, but it's all in your head).

Basically you pick a unique name for your subconscious that isn't really repeated a lot (example Noodles93)...the guide goes more in detail on that though. It's a good read if you want to experiment with that.

Don't do it if you're prone to be schizo though, just think of it as forming a bond with your other self (as I say this, I emphasize on beliefs because I don't want to drill you with anything that may not be comfortable with your beliefs).

And there have been some people who have dream guides with a mind of it's own, they act differently, they think different, and they can be aware just as much as you are in your dreams. It's all about mindset. You can ask your subconscious to create an entity in your own preference, or you can just ask it and see what it can create for you.

It's all about being open to other possibilities. For me, I'm trying to create a dream guide based on a dream sign of blonde females, and hopefully have a guide that matches my interest. And from there, I hope to have a relationship with the guide to help me not only in dreaming, but waking life as well.

People seek dream guides/spirit guides for guidance, some seek for solace because they can fill a need that they cannot consistently have in reality (example: extreme desires that may be taboo; but if you do it for such things, be careful that you don't become tempted to try it out in reality), and so much more.

If you want your dream guide to be independent in movement, learning, and thinking, don't be afraid to think about that! It is your mind you know, and it's more fun (in my opinion) to have someone in your dreams who has a mind of their own. It's completely subjective, and you should always try to be subjective and open when it comes to dreaming and beyond, that's my suggestion.


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And you never know, you may make a bond so deep, that you might think that it's much more than memories that your subconscious is gathering to make the experience for you.

Almost like a spiritual awakening...but again, all on what you believe and are open to experience.

When I make a dream guide or find it, I'll probably use her to help me with dream recall as well.

whoa.. thanks alot for the link and the help :). it really means that lucid dreaming is a fascinating thing. you gave me more motivation. thanks lot :shadewink:

You are very welcome :D. Lucid Dreaming, in my opinion, has short bursts of motivation, and you have to keep finding the catalyst to initiate it quickly than before. :P

Hope you have fun in your dreams, and the dream guide thing is just the START of what you can do, there is so much potential you can take advantage of with lucid dreaming.

Happy lucids! :)