Determining Your Lucid Ability (Title)

Hello! :)

I never saw any instructions on how to title oneself, so I am going to document a standardized way. Hopefully if more people place themselves by these standards we'll have a better idea of their actual background.

When determining your placement, knowledge of lucid dreaming should take priority over the number of lucid dreams you had.

Lucid Beginner: No recollection of ever experiencing a lucid dream, and is just now learning about the concept lucid dreaming.

Lucid Student: Some experience with lucid dreaming, and has a fairly good grasp on the concept.

Lucid Tutor: Some experience with lucid dreaming. Here to share their knowledge with other members.

Lucid Scholar: Some experience with lucid dreaming. Here to learn more and share their knowledge with other members.

Lucid Expert: Experienced lucid dreamer. Vast knowledge of the concept and is here to expand their knowledge and share learnings with other members.

Lucid Master: Experienced lucid dreamer. Vast knowledge of the concept and is here to share their knowledge with other members.

Lucid Knight: Very experienced lucid dreamer. May have mastered dream incubation, induction, and dream control.

Lucid Guru: Very experienced lucid dreamer. May have mastered dream incubation, induction, and dream control. Here to share their knowledge.

Lucid God: You know who you are.

Suggestions? Revisions?

May I suggest removing some redundant titles?

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I lvoe this. I just wnated to thank you so "dearly" for it ;) I am on the coummunity team. I will tlak to the ther about putting this in a sticky at the top of the page. good work.

Sounds pretty good to me except I find the difference between Lucid Tutor and Lucid Scholar is a little askew just because I think the Tutor should be able to learn more too. Other than that I think its good enough for me to follow. Im switching right now from student to tutor :evil:

You know what? Now that I think about it, Its perfect the way it is.
Dont let me get in your way :bump:

sounds good. i was wondering how to label myself when i joined yesterday.

the only thing is dream tutor and dream scholar seem to be 'mixed up". I am unsure whether they are listed in that order on the options pull down menu, but if so, they seem, in my opinion, to be backwards.

after all, a scholar is usually thought to learn, while a tutor is someone who learns as well, but also teaches others.

for instance, if an individual excels in math, they are still learning nonetheless, but often offer to help others of less proficiency to learn the same material.

Other than that, good idea.

I see tutor as someone that teaches. By definition, when referring to "tutors" they are not learning, they are teaching. That's why I said they're here to share their knowledge.

A "scholar" is much like a student. So they're here to learn, and share their knowledge.

If it were up to me I'd remove Tutor and Knight, and maybe Master and Guru, because I don't think there's much of a need for them. It's over-complicating a simple thing. :)

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Originally posted by dearly
I see tutor as someone that teaches. By definition, when referring to \"tutors\" they are not learning, they are teaching. That's why I said they're here to share their knowledge.

A \"scholar\" is much like a student. So they're here to learn, and share their knowledge.

If it were up to me I'd remove Tutor and Knight, and maybe Master and Guru, because I don't think there's much of a need for them. It's over-complicating a simple thing. :)

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different terms appeal to different people (and mean different things to people). more options provide further personalizing.

i like this though as a general guide, so why not sticky it?

Cool I just been beginner this whole time now im ummmm Lucid Scholar I think :D

Right now, I'm making a vow. I will reach the Level of Lucid Master. That is my goal. I'm determined to get there. Not higher or less, just master.

Just a comment here. I am here for dreaming, not necessarily lucid dreaming. All of it is meaningless to me. Just a thought. Maybe there should be a "Don't Care" option :).

Actually this is what I wish I could do. Good luck to you with that. The only reason a lucid dream is better than a regular dream is the opportunity to remember what happened on purpose. The special skills in dreams secondary and unnecessary but make the experience more interesting.

I put my title as Lucid Beginner but after reading this I noticed that im a Lucid Student, how can i change this?

I just joined last nite. I feel that Scholar is where it belongs, being a step above the tutor. My reasoning for this is because a scholar is a person who has already been a student and is now a learned person. When we speak of Galileo and Socrates, we do not call them students, but scholars.
For the time being, I am going to leave my title as it is although I feel that I have been having lucid dreams all my life. Perhaps I am wrong though. I will give an example of the first dream that I remember changing and perhaps I can get a response as to if it would be classified as a lucid dream. I had this dream when I was around 7 years old.
I was standing with my family at the edge of a cliff overlooking the ocean. My brother warned me not to get too close, less I fall into the ocean where the sharks were.
Sure enough, I fell. When I hit the water, the sharks started coming and I realized that it was only a dream. As one of the sharks got close enough, I began to punch him in his nose and he turned around and swam away. The second shark I did not scare away. In my mind I said that he could eat me and it would be fine, because it was only a dream. So I let him eat me and then I woke up.

So thats one of my dreams. In most of my dreams, I know that they are dreams. In response to a post that talked about how hard it is to fly. I agree. When I first started doing it, I needed to get a running start and jump off of something high and then I would soar around for a bit. Gradually I kept refining and practicing (as its rather addictive), a few times, I have sprouted wings. Just recently though, I was in the standing position, and took off, like a helicopter.

This is the first time I ve spoken with others who have similar dreams, does this constitute lucidity to you?
Cheers,
**Slick_nerd**

Just so you know, I cleaned up some of the posts in here. If you guys have any questions you can go ahead and ask, but we try to keep most of the stickies on topic.

If you would like to change your rank, you can under your "Profile" settings. I'll see if I can be more specific, but as a DG my rank is fixed :D So, yah.

-Amé

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Originally posted by Amethyst Star
Just so you know, I cleaned up some of the posts in here. If you guys have any questions you can go ahead and ask, but we try to keep most of the stickies on topic.

If you would like to change your rank, you can under your "Profile" settings. I'll see if I can be more specific, but as a DG my rank is fixed :D So, yah.

-Amé

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Sorry about that..
Also, when you complete the LD task of the month, your rank is fixed until the next month. I notice that, since I usually complete it at the first of the month.

I want to know how to change my title from master to Student..
Thank you..
Amethyst

Hi Amethyst, welcome on board!

If you will click the 'Profile' link at the top of the page, you can then select your lucid rank. It is somewhere near the bottom of your profile.

hiya,

i've been having lucid dreams most of my life. i'm 25 now and i remember having them when i was young. i always recall my dreams and i always have. i have about 3 to 7 lucid dreams a week and until looking up the subject this week i never thought anyone else could do it.

Anyway a good way to stop awakening once you realise that you are dreaming is simply to look at your hands. this is what i have always done if i feel im awakening and it works like a charm. however these days i never have to do it for some reason.

has anyone ever experienced not being able to move once waking. i have this often and find it quite worrying. it feels as though i'm fully conscious except i'm fighting to move. i have the feeling that a weight is on top of me and i feel like someone is watching me. is this normal?

I've had lucid dreams all my life, just never been able to have them on command or prolong the experiance to extrodinary heights (time length, abilities, ect). So a student be I!

Does it matter how much LD's you've had?

I've researched and read everything I can find on Lucid Dreaming. I've tried almost every technique and have taken teas, pills, and other substances to experiment. I'm fully aware of how to LD now, but I've only had a few since being here (DILDs that is).

Basically, I know what there is to know now. I've tried many ways, and only I know which ones work for me and which ones don't. I've worked hard to get others I know to LD too, and have been successful with 5 different people!

According to the title descriptions, I should be a Dream Expert. I've had a decent amount of LD's in the past few weeks, but more importantly I know the subject well.

what counts as a lucid dream? dreaming an know that you are dreaming? doing things such as flying? i've heard of the "turning on a light switch" and "touching your palm with a finger of the opposed hand and the finger going thru" i've walked thru walls and ppl. would this just make me a student? i've tried to control them but i eather wake up or i go deeper into sleep.

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what counts as a lucid dream? dreaming an know that you are dreaming? doing things such as flying? i've heard of the "turning on a light switch" and "touching your palm with a finger of the opposed hand and the finger going thru" i've walked thru walls and ppl. would this just make me a student? i've tried to control them but i eather wake up or i go deeper into sleep.

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If you've ever been aware that you were dreaming during the dream, you've had a LD. Having control is different than being lucid.

I've had some seriously strange dream experiences from about the age of seven (am fifteen now) and can recall a few early ones still, and at least one with full control, and several with full realisation that I am dreaming... where do I get placed?

It really comes down to what role you'd like to take her on DV

Are you here to:
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help others while learning more (Lucid Scholar, Lucid Knight....)
instruct others(Lucid Master)
boast about how great you are and be amused at the mortal's attempts beneath you (Lucid God)[list]
There's really no science to picking a title, it's whatever you feel comfortable with. I found it more as a way to guide my progress. Started out as beginner. Once I had a few LDs under my belt and concentrated on trying to gain control in LD's, I figured I was more of a student at that point. Once you're comfortable with your own LD's and feel you have more to contribute to others, then you're more of a teacher, with room to grow yourself. Etc, etc.

I like these choices, but it is kind of hard to decide my title. I don't really know if i already should upgrade to lucid tutor, or wait a bit longer, as though I don't feel experienced enough, I've seen people with less experience than me as tutors. While I do love these choices as they give a nice variety to choose from, they are rather confusing at times, as the lines blur a little on some of them, like tutor and scholar, or knight and master, as the tutor seems lower than a scholar, so I'd expect a tutor would be exactly the person who wants to learn more, and knight and guru. I mean isn't there this everlasting need for learning which can never be satisfied if you are interested in something. That being said I'm fine with them the way they are, it is a great system, and it really doesn't need to be taken literally.

welll...
I'm not quite sure what I'd be
I've only known about lucid dreaming for a month
and since learning about it I've had one lucid experience
but before I even knew about it..
I'd had 3 or 4
so..
I've had experiences before
but I have almost no grasp on the whole concept of lucid dreaming
so...
would I be a beginner or a student?

I've always been able to lucid dream. I still remember one particular nightmare from when I was three or four years old.

When I dream, I am always aware that it is a dream. I have always had the willpower to bend the dream to my will, however I usually do not do this out of sheer cutiousity or where the dream will take me. I worry that if I do try and bend the dream, any meanings or plot that are reflected may be destroyed by my doing so. I have a LD at least once every two days.

I have ranked myself as Master for now, but I feel from these decriptions that I might possibly be a Knight. Perhaps I will change this as I read up on extra techniques.

I do not think I will be able to share many techniques of my own, however, since I seem to be able to do these things simply out of willpower. I can't really teach willpower :(

Well I have had no lucid dreams with control (Although over 25 without control :P), but I know a LOT about Lucid Dreaming (And I mean a lot. 7 months on ld4all reading through everything.. phew :P)
What rank would you suggest for me ? :P

For you I'd say Lucid Scholar. Dream Control counts as very low level lucidity to me. (since you don't know you're drreaming)

Lucid ability: 0
In fact, before getting into lucid dreaming, I did not remember my dreams at all.

I'd like to consider myself a lucid scholar, but I think my title of 'failed test subject' is more suiting. I've got a lot of experience in WILDs... failing them that is. I've had a few lucids, 3 with control. However, since getting a dream journal, my dreams have become much more memorable and vivid, for which I am thankful. I have read a litte about the lucid as well though. I don't own any of the LaBerge books, but I've got my hands on a lot of the NightLights, and I've taken a look at quite a few sites, tutorials, and of course, this board.

sorry i have to ask this, but i think since i'm a newbie, what the hell:)
well the thing is i can't see lucid rank on my profile page.
i clicked on my screenname than choose edit profile, but nope. What am i doing wrong?

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sorry i have to ask this, but i think since i'm a newbie, what the hell:)
well the thing is i can't see lucid rank on my profile page.
i clicked on my screenname than choose edit profile, but nope. What am i doing wrong?[/b]

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Click on "My Controls" at the top of your screen (it's in bold type).
Then on the left side of your screen under Personal Profle, click on "Edit Profile Information."
Then scroll down and you can change your lucid age, and modify other things in your profile.

Edit: actually, this takes you to the same place you were when you clicked on your username, then clicked on "Edit Profile" at the bottom. Maybe you just overlooked the lucid age part the first time?

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Originally Posted by Burns

Click on "My Controls" at the top of your screen (it's in bold type).
Then on the left side of your screen under Personal Profle, click on "Edit Profile Information."
Then scroll down and you can change your lucid age, and modify other things in your profile.

Edit: actually, this takes you to the same place you were when you clicked on your username, then clicked on "Edit Profile" at the bottom. Maybe you just overlooked the lucid age part the first time?
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thank you Bruns:)

Wow! That's great! I haven't got anything to add...but that can be pointing to the fact that my head's kinda epty cause of lack of use :? (summer holidays..)
I'm a Lucud Beginner and proud of it! :bigteeth:

So do I just edit my "custom member title"

Hey everybeing,

My name is Rob, and this is my first post (I think I’ll reply to each “sticky” systematically to get started). I have been reading about Lucid Dreaming (and Astral Projection) ever since I stepped into the W.W.W. (the collective artificial unconscious) when I was thirteen or so (I am twenty-four now) but not it was not until I reached my twentieth year that I finally experienced one (thank you “Waking Life”). Since then I have actually lost count of how many I have had, which I think is a delightful landmark in dreaming lucidly. Now-a-nights I have about one each week, and I am ever-grateful.

I think this makes me a “Lucid Expert” although I am almost blushing as I write that. I do have “vast knowledge of the concept” as one would expect from 10 or so years of study and I am experienced (but certainly not as proficient as I endeavour to be). I am thrilled to have found this community as I most certainly want to expand my knowledge (and experience) and share what I ‘know’ with those who would benefit.

I can not explain how excited I am about all this. While waiting for “manual authorization” I read each post in the “Newbie” section (quite a few!) and a brief selection from the more advanced members- who ever came up with the idea for the Lucid Tasks is a genius! I am always torn between a few things I want to do when I become lucid and usually (probably as a direct result of my indecision) end up flying and just defying gravity in the most creative ways I can… not that I am complaining! but I know there is much, much more to experience and I have the feeling that these tasks will really hone my skills.

Thanks for having me. I plan on thoroughly immersing myself here.

Dae,

Rob.
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Welcome!!! ^^^

I would have to be a Lucid Beginer. :?
Anyways, great idea for a thread!

ive been tryin to get lucid for a week and only did it once and could only control certain aspects of the dream, i think im a student atm

this actually happens to me quite often, even when i was little. i never knew there was a name for it. my very first recollection was when i was five. i was having a nightmare where i looked under my bed and saw an evil clown and for some reason i told myself: this isnt real this isnt real. i KNEW for certain that i was dreaming. but here is my problem. i have yet to experiment with my lucid dreams. because always, as well as my first instance, i become physically paralyzed. i panic. im afraid i may not ever wake up- that i might slip into a coma. ive studied this a bit, and my psychology teacher says that during REM, large muscle groups become paralyzed which is exactly what happens. i have control over my toes or fingers, and actually the other day, i was having one where i was almost awake during an LD and i could see things in my room, when this mardi gras mask i have hanging on my wall warped into an evil spirit-type face and was heading toward me. this is the first time ive been able to move my entire arm. i was waving my arm in the air while i was lying down and i could barley see my arm because it looked like it was flapping like a humming bird. but i could feel it moving. and always when i have these LD's i break out of the paralysis with a violent jerk that sends my head whipping to one side or the other. is this normal? i dont know. i try to explain to people around me what i mean, but i dont think they understand it. they say wow what a crazy dream. but i am NOT dreaming! i know im awake....somehow. im just glad i finally found a term for it. anyone have anything they can comment or help me with?

Hey,

and just how DO i change my title? :P

thanks

-Rflyguy

I think Burns explained that.. Rory


~R~

When?

lol, i figured out how to do it like 2 mins after posting...

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lol

Hey, nesgirl119

Why is your group: Banned?

Is she banned from the site?

How did she manage that?

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lol

Hey, nesgirl119

Why is your group: Banned?

Is she banned from the site?

How did she manage that?
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Yes she was banned because she did some naughty stuff.

She has 3000 + posts.

What did she do?

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Lucid Scholar: Some experience with lucid dreaming. Here to learn more and share their knowledge with other members.

Lucid Expert: Experienced lucid dreamer. Vast knowledge of the concept and is here to expand their knowledge and share learnings with other members. [/b]

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Howdy, I feel that I am a scholar, or maybe and Expert, but I am an expert in the lucid and recall world. Oh I don't know. Since I am self-taught and now trying to re-wire my brain with the terminology that is used in books and sites; because I made up my own terminology, which by the way, I thought this was my thing, wow, didn't I think the world evolved around me. :wink: So first I believe I must learn more and keep sharing, then take my vast new found knowledge and fly! By the way, how many female LDers are in our members list, I seem to only have found a very limited few who are posting. Just a thought! Please no haters, I am just wondering if Lucid Dreamers are dominantly male? Any takers? Sorry if off topic but I had to ask sometime my mind just keeps wondering :hrm: :) !

What if some one used to be a frequent lucid dreamer, but now rarely lucid dreams. What should that person be called then?

I used to have frequent lucid dreams, multiple times a night. For several years, beginning in my teens, I was a natural lucid dreamer. I had DILDs. I didn't have to use any special techniques. Now in my late 20s, I lucid dream rarely, and I am trying to regain the frequency of my lucid dreams.

Although I don't lucid dream much any more, I am calling myself a Lucid Scholar because I don't think it would be fair to not take into account my previous lucid dreaming success.

Is there room for a returning lucid dreamer? I recall having a lucid dream years ago, but I haven't remembered a dream in years. And the kind of dreams I've remembered these last two nights suggest to me that my imagination has no practice making dreams and is not doing a very good job of it. So, I lost it and I'm coming back after a long time.

I'm somewhere between "beginner" and "student"...

I would say Expert ..but I feel I'm still a Student (Scholar .)_

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Lucid Knight: Very experienced lucid dreamer. May have mastered dream incubation, induction, and dream control.

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This sounds like me. I've been having LD's and controlling my dreams since I was very young. I don't really understand why I can do this. I am trying to figure out what I do so I can teach others.

lucid student

my dream recall is excellent (5 last night)
my ability to go lucid is lacking ... maye 4 times total

I'd say i'm a lucid student. I've had LD's before but not on purpose and they were a long time ago. I do have pretty good recall though.

Yeah, I'm also a cross between lucid beginner and student... Maybe there should be another option?

I'd say I'm a lucid Scholar =D

Is this somehow mandatory ,or is it an only reccomended system of letting those around you know how experienced you are? You may still keep your custom title yes?

I think I fall under the Lucid Student category....
I've had one very good lucid dream where I got to fly around my school. And I've got a pretty good grasp on the concept I think. I hope to climb as high up the ranks as possible!

A question for the mods/admins: Will the Lucid Title thing like in the old forum ever return? It is one of the things I really miss, and it was way more useful than Lucid Age, as age just means how long since you've had an LD, and says nothing of ability.

Hi Everyone!!!!! I guess I am a lucid knight or maybe even a lucid god- however I won't claim any proper expertise- only personal experience. I have been dreaming lucidly since I was very young, was addicted (literally) as a teenager, and didn't realize this was a practiced thing until I was 20 something. I'm glad to know now that others share this passion and I do study it, though I always feel it is just a recognition of what I know. I used to think I was a weirdo- my dreams used to consume me- now they are small escapes. Remember- I had an addiction to this though- sometimes I feel it coming back. I have been able to experience every sense at once and the "spinning" thing happens naturally for me. Heck, maybe I am a weirdo. I can tell you though, there ARE side effects for some of us. I get headaches after really intense lucid dream. I have had my heart stop- and woke with pain. I don't get restful sleep and I have spiritual dreams that are hard to shake.
Anyhow- glad to be here... I think I can contribute some- at least some REAL good dream stories!!!!!!
Currently dreaming on: Starting a non-profit gallery in NY and a typical romance thing... cept I keep playing this uninterested role- even though I am???

I guess I am a Scholar, but I don't know how to put it on my title.

Yeah

My First Lucid Dream:
I've read about Lucid Dreaming a lot in the past few years, but had never really made a completely whole hearted effort, mostly because I have nearly zero recall and have been plagued by insomnia for more than a year. However, two days ago, on Saturday, 21 April 2007, I had a real lucid dream and am very excited to try to have more.
My dream was as follows:
I dreamt that I woke up, but there was a very loud, constant buzzing noise in my head. At first I was trying to figure out where that noise was coming from, but then it occured to me that I could be dreaming. I'd read on this or another similar website about trying to cover your mouth and nose and try to continue breathing as a method of testing this, and decided that I should try that. At first there was a little resistance, but then I took a very deep breath, through my hand. I got very excited, and tried to calm myself down to see what other kinds of things I could do but it was too late, I woke up for real. I was actually sleeping in nearly the same position, except that in my dream my hand was over my mouth and nose, so when I woke up it was almost as shocking when I realized I was awake because my hand was no longer where I thought it was.

I guess that makes me a student, although I'm closer to a beginner, and I am definitely a newbie.
Hopefully, this will be beginning of a long and fruitful experience.

I'd say student
although I never knew it was a "lucid dream" at the time
most dreams I've remembered, I remember them only from where I realized I am dreaming
in which case I have a wee bit of control
there were 3 dreams I can remember in which I had a pretty good bit of control

this is something I've always loved, infact it's why I sleep so much, in hopes I'd have a dream like this
this site will hopefully let me get better at this sorta thing
I'm glad I already have a feel for it too

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This sounds like me. I've been having LD's and controlling my dreams since I was very young. I don't really understand why I can do this. I am trying to figure out what I do so I can teach others.

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same, i can control dreams because of my vast complex imagination that i have always had.
can u make things up in your head when your awake? this could help us understand how lucidity works. if you can controll and monipulate stuff in your head when consios, what can you do when asleep when most controls in the brain say "stuff it im sleeping"

This is really cool! I never thought of labelling myself as a way of determining where I am in terms of my spiritual growth. But I find this very inspiring. According to your definition I am currently a Lucid Master on the path toward becoming a Lucid God (I started very young). I am loving every step of the way :)

hi i am a beginner and i was wondering i have heard it is possible to slow down time during lucid dreaming is this true?

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hi i am a beginner and i was wondering i have heard it is possible to slow down time during lucid dreaming is this true?

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Yes it is true. When dreaming there is little that isn't possible. The dream state is like a realm where physics as we know it does not apply. The only limitations are those set by your mind. I'm sure this has been used as an example before, but in the film; The Matrix, after doing battle with Neo in the fight simulation, Morpheus commands that the jump program be loaded. He proceeds to jump from the top of one building, across a huge street to another building on another side. The lesson was to teach Neo how to free his mind. The same applies in the dream state. Any stunt you have seen performed on tv, you can execute with your mind in the dream state and so much more. It's a matter of letting go of thought patterns that are redundant in the dream realm.

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Originally Posted by Cyberlization

This is really cool! I never thought of labelling myself as a way of determining where I am in terms of my spiritual growth. But I find this very inspiring. According to your definition I am currently a Lucid Master on the path toward becoming a Lucid God (I started very young). I am loving every step of the way :)

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My bad, I didn't have a clue what dream incubation meant when I wrote this. I am a Lucid God. I've been dream incubating and inducing for almost 20 years now, just never thought to actually do any research on it.