Is anyone here a level 10?
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Is anyone here a level 10?
What's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by TehDugan
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...511#post418511Quote:
Originally Posted by dodobird
This is just the last stage of the dreamer stage...Quote:
Level 10: “Free Will Lucid” -
It might seem strange that there is a level above the "God Lucid" but complete control over everything can be boring. The Dreamer is still completely omnipotent when they choose to be. In this level the dream the dreamer can relinquish control of certain parts of the world but, unlike the Telekinetic Lucid, the dreamer does this on purpose. They can also give other dream characters free will if they choose and take it back when they choose.
From dreams to Astral planes and from there to Higher planes.
I would count my self a level beyong the 10th.
Are you serious born 2 kill? You should have a dream jornal then. I think brandon heat is at level ten.
Wait never mind im way above level ten. lol, i have skillz. When i get lucid. lol. I just havent tried in a long time. :)
I have a personal Dream Journal with over 160 pages filled. With predictions and experiences which happened in various places inside and outside our planet.
Im not counting my self in the level 10 since the levels beyond it are far more superior.
Dream control does not interest me at all.
I think it forces our waking mind over the dream, which pretty much ruins it because our waking mind is structured, patterned, conditioned. It's like taming the dream world. I would much prefer my dream world to remain wild.
WOw can you ld when ever you want!?!?! And what level are you on 300? lol
born_2_kill: can you elaborate on all this?
im pretty sure gothlark is beyond level 10 i know he can LD at will any time of the day
When you are able to control your dreams, you unlock a new potential that we are able to activate called the second us. Our current state is limited because we were forced to believe that way from beginning we were born.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodobird
Through dreams we are able to access the Subconscious and than the infinite us.Thats why Dreaming is important, even more important than our current state of consciousness.
Those who are on lvl 10 and beyond understand that if they want the true knowledge of the Infinity they need to go beyond the physical realm.
It is the same as going to high school and than graduating to College or university. We seek knowledge from the moment we were born.
Our world around us, is as much as real as our dreams. And we are in control in both reality's. The reason why people want to Astral Project is because they are able to meet their dead relatives, seeing their past life's and having a look to the feature. The degree of that level is were the spirits are.
I had one level 8 dream a few weeks ago, it was my only one. Normally I'm level 3, though.
I'm definitely a level 10. As for the people saying there are levels ABOVE level 10, then what are they. I'd be really interested to see what else is possble in an LD.
I LD every night. I can WILD pretty much any time of day. And I've done everything that I could think of in my LDs.
The stages beyond LD are spiritual. The people who go beyond the level 10 have a purpose to go beyond .. A purpose is needed to accomplish once desires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infraredkelp
Okay, I have no idea what you're talking about. Give me an example of something you did that was above level 10.
A dead relative... to meet my dead relative that was my purpose and i succeeded in that because i used my WILL to make it happen. Further more my purpose began to expand and i started to have a new purpose "Seek the wisdom" and with the help of my will im succeeding in that.
To understand this, you would need to experience one of those unhappy moments for you to open your hearth to infinity possibilities.
Surely that's level 9? You created a DC who was your dead relative. It's like a dream that I had a month or so ago when I died and went to heaven, I met all kinds of people, for some of them I thought 'I wish my dead Gran was here' and then she was.
I met my dead grandma a few days after the funeral. That doesn't make me above level 10, I still just created her with my mind just like any other DC.
I didnt state that i had dreams about her.... U have asked what purpose i went to levels beyond LD.. and i gave u the puprose.
Astral projection is far beyond dreams.. i preffer you to do some research about it before asking any llame questions which im not willing to answer.
And a person has to be mature enough to understand why a purpose is needed. Because from there comes the Will to accomplish it.
Okay let me get this straight: Your account with your grandma was an LD, correct?
There's no need to get so defensive about it, I'd be very interested in researching higher levels than complete omnipotence, do you mean really talking to a dead relative rather than creating the character of a dead relative?
If you could recomend some reading material I'd apreciate it, otherwise, what better way to research a topic than ask someone with first hand experience?
my dreaming level is OVER NINE THOUSSSSAND.
i can create and destroy galaxies through dreaming. the truth is that the sun would expire years ago if i wouldnt power it up using my dreams
...cant you see he is making up shit?
yea, I can :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vall3y
Someone else believing something that you don't believe doesn't imply 'making up shit'.
Now hold on. Just because not everybody believes in the sorts of things he's talking about doesn't mean he's lying. I haven't quite made up my mind about whether things like OBEs and Astral Projection are possible, but I try to be open-minded. Personally, I don't see why those other experiences would even be on that scale level developed for lucid dreams, because to me they are totally different from dreams.