Trouble Falling Asleep???

I'm one of those people that usually has some trouble going to sleep. Obviously it depends on how tired I am but in average I usually need 1 hour to fall asleep and sometimes even more...much more! Besides from that, when I do fall asleep I usually sleep pretty good...it's just this "little" detail that has always made me tick.

I even tried the Brainwave Entrainment but although it helped a little I can't really say it has been a big help.
This can be a problem to me sometimes because if I have to get up early in the morning I tend to be anxious to fall asleep and that even makes it worse.

Usually to fall asleep I just let myself go and try not to think of anything but last night I was trying MILD and realised that everytime I would focus on the ideia of having a lucid dream I would get more awake. And that made me feel a little frustraded because I started to fear never being able to use MILD or any other technique that required concentration before falling asleep.

Anyway...I was just wondering if any of you has had this problem and how did you get over it.
I think that I'm a person with some flaws when it comes to psychological control and I tend to let my fellings take over. Maybe there is a way of streghtning my control over this...I don't know how but I definitly opened to suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

Fred

Not alone :P

On average it takes me from a half hour(if im lucky) to an hour and maybe more. It varies. What I suggest you do is to tire out the body. Do extreme excersizes that will make you ache every part of your body. that'll usually make you tired and fall asleep fast. I guess you can practive meditation to and train your mind to calm down and sleep. If that doesn't help you then try this topic. It's a topic fit for your problem.

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....der=asc&start=0

I don't often have a hard time falling asleep but when I do it is usually because my mind runs in circles. So I have to find a way to concentrate on one thing. You can repeat something over and over to yourself. Something very simple like "I will sleep" Or "Dream Now" or "Cookies are good" or "I love so-and-so" whatever works for you!

The other thing I do is concentrate on relaxing each part of my body starting with my feet moving upwards. Sometimes this works! It is at least worth a try!!! If nothing else very relaxing!!!

I hope you get some sleep soon!!!

P.S. You will find that the more sleep you get the better chance you will have of becoming Lucid. With that said... I am off to bed early for once!! Yay Me!!!

I used to take around an hour to fall asleep too. However I found that listening to the radio helps me get to sleep in around 30 minutes. After about 4 months of listening to music/news/talk shows/CDs on and off I can now fall asleep rather quickly without any sort of aid.

It also takes me about an hour or more during the summer..

I agree with Squall about the radio thing. ;) I've tried it for the first time a couple of nights ago and I surprised myself by falling asleep within like 15 minutes. But make sure the volume's turned down, so it's more of a blur..

Have you tried taking melatonin supplements?

I also agree that tiring out the body is good. :D When I go swimming, I go for the ENTIRE day, and I sleep like a log at night. Unfortunately, I can't go swimming as often as I'd like. :|

i normally just look at spots on my wall and just when i think i'm going to die from being board. i fall asleep. :shock:

Yes, listening to the radio will put you to sleep quickly. But I prefer to just watch TV until I fall asleep on commercials. :)

Hehehe or you can make a tape of just commercials.. bet it works like a charm! :P

Hi Scwigglie!

Yeah I did that. I made a bunch of recorded tapes and DVD's of my favorite commercials all the way back from 1993. ;)

i cant listen to the radio or watch tv. i get hooked on what i hear and i most likely dream about it. really annoying

i usually have to much on my mind at night to fall asleep. either that or i know whats comiing in my dreams and i fear it and don't want to go to sleep

Shadows, why not get a CD with nature sounds? I like those!... except there's a track called "swimming with whales" or something, and UGGHHH it sounds creepy. :|

P.S. Hi Jin! :D :D

Try eating a whole bunch. Your digestive system will have to digest so much that you'll have to rest. :D

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Shadows, why not get a CD with nature sounds? I like those!... except there's a track called \"swimming with whales\" or something, and UGGHHH it sounds creepy. :|

P.S. Hi Jin! :D :D

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i've heard those kinda cd's they are creepy

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i've heard those kinda cd's they are creepy[/b]

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Awww, even the ocean sounds?? Some can be quite nice, really! ;) ;) But, LOL, they'll put like LOON sounds right in the middle. EEEHHH

has anyone in here heard of VAS garden of the souls.....i dout it but if ya have give me some feedback. shadows ill make ya a copy if ya want...even puts the babys to sleep

I have a CD like that. It's called NatureQuest. It's actually my dad's but I 'borrowed' it. Some sounds are creepy. Like the wolf howls. :shock:

well most of the sounds are creepy. if i want to hear forest sounds i'll go camping.

Listening to smooth jazz can help. Or even . . . classical. :|

Do you think they'll have the songs of this cd on kazaa lite?

Yeah they do. That and morpheus.

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Originally posted by Jin
Listening to smooth jazz can help. Or even . . . classical. :|

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sorry cant bring myself to listen to do that

. . . yeah . . . how about rock or rap?

thats my kinda music :D

:aphiusiscrazy: Cool! :muffin: Who's your favorite?

cant pick a favorite

LOL ;) I can't stand most rap. It all sounds the same to me. MOST of it, that is.

I like rap from the 1990's. It wasn't all the same. I mean listen to rap from the 1990's and then listen to rap today. Rap today is all: I'm gonna rip ya guts out, then I'm gonna f*ck ya woman, then I'm gonna ride my sports car over ya, then I'm gonna shoot this b*tch fo money . . . blah, blah, blah. It's all repetitive and so prdeictable. ;)

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I like rap from the 1990's. It wasn't all the same. I mean listen to rap from the 1990's and then listen to rap today. Rap today is all: I'm gonna rip ya guts out, then I'm gonna f*ck ya woman, then I'm gonna ride my sports car over ya, then I'm gonna shoot this b*tch fo money . . . blah, blah, blah. It's all repetitive and so prdeictable. ;)

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Ah I love you oh that's it exactly. :happyme:

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Originally posted by Jin
Yeah they do. That and morpheus.

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Alright, I'll try a search on naturequest then

as for the rap, most of it is crap. IMO they sound ugly and not really pleasant on the ears. I'd rather go and listen to beyonce or usher than 50 cent(I hate his songs). If the song has a nice beat/melody then it's fine, but when you're just yelling and screaming egotistical crap about yourself then that's where you need to shut-up

ALL of that is IMO, so don't beat me

Just want to say thanks for posting to fred lopes because I just started and had the same problem last night.

Wow this thread only had half a page last night!

But we've given many suggestions to solve the problem for Fred L0pes hope he comes back to check. I'm actually suprised it stayed on topic for two pages. :)

Impressive :shock: I could not imagine that this topic would be so sucessfull. I guess insomnia is much more common than I could imagine.

Anyway, I've tried almost everything that as been sugested and the problem goes on for years. I even went to a psychologist to try and solve the problem but it was no good. I think that my main problem resides in anxiety and the fact that I go to bed already thinking that I'll have troubling getting to sleep.
Besides, some sugestions like listening to the radio or watching tv are not ideial when trying to concentrate on MILD for example.

I guess my best chances are to learn some relaxation techniques to get the anxiety off my mind.

Anyway, thanks for all your help and if I find any helpfull tips I'll post them down for all you interested.

Sweet dreams!

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Besides, some sugestions like listening to the radio or watching tv are not ideial when trying to concentrate on MILD for example.[/b]

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Isn't MILD where you wake up in the middle of the night and picture yourself back in the dream? Well if it is, you can use the radio to just fall asleep initially. I don't think anyone'd have too much of a problem falling back asleep after being asleep for some number of hours.. at which point you can just turn off the radio! ;)

sleeping pills...sleeping pills are your friends

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sleeping pills...sleeping pills are your friends

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Do they affect your dream recall or LD ability?

I'm reading a book right now that's constantly at an exciting part so i seem to fall asleep at 11:30 and am very anxious. It takes me a long time then :cry: .

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Originally posted by Scwigglie
Isn't MILD where you wake up in the middle of the night and picture yourself back in the dream?

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I think that is WILD. :-P I think that MILD is the one where you concentrate before going to sleep and convince yourself that you will lucid dream...I think, but correct me if I'm wrong.

A long time ago I would get sleepy from watching tv, but since I have a tv on my room I just got so used to it that it's better if I leave it off. :?

Anyway, thanks again.