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10-21-2009, 06:27 PM
AndresLD

DEILD Help

Last night I set my alarm to go off 5 hours after going to bed, and after 7 seconds turn itslef off. It woke me up during a dream and I was able to keep my eyes closed and not move. I got really exited since it was the first time I was able to do so, and my heart started pumping really hard, I could feel the blood rushing through my veins. The reason I got so exited was because I thought I would be able to lucid dream right away, but I think this exitement made me too counscious/awake and couldn't DEILD. Any tips for tomorrow, so this doesn't happen again?
10-21-2009, 06:34 PM
Kexo

I guess you just need to try it over and over
10-21-2009, 06:40 PM
KingYoshi

Make sure you are keeping perfectly still and keep your eyes closed. Take deep slow breaths to try and keep yourself calm. Make sure your alarm isn't too loud, so it doesn't startle you awake/wake you abruptly. Turn up just loud enough to wake you up in a more gradual manner.
10-22-2009, 03:08 PM
AndresLD

Lol, so I tried again this morning, but before falling asleep I repeated a mantra so I wouldn't be too startled when I wake up, it was "I wont get too exited when my alarm goes off". I think my subconscious took it way too serious, and I didn't even wake up when my alarm went off. :roll:
10-22-2009, 06:32 PM
TheWeirdnessSymposium

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Originally Posted by AndresLD

Lol, so I tried again this morning, but before falling asleep I repeated a mantra so I wouldn't be too startled when I wake up, it was "I wont get too exited when my alarm goes off". I think my subconscious took it way too serious, and I didn't even wake up when my alarm went off. :roll:

Wording affirmations/mantras positively is usually recommended. So:

"I'll stay calm when my alarm goes off"
10-22-2009, 08:01 PM
panta-rei

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Originally Posted by AndresLD

Last night I set my alarm to go off 5 hours after going to bed, and after 7 seconds turn itslef off. It woke me up during a dream and I was able to keep my eyes closed and not move. I got really exited since it was the first time I was able to do so, and my heart started pumping really hard, I could feel the blood rushing through my veins. The reason I got so exited was because I thought I would be able to lucid dream right away, but I think this exitement made me too counscious/awake and couldn't DEILD. Any tips for tomorrow, so this doesn't happen again?

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Originally Posted by KingYoshi

Make sure you are keeping perfectly still and keep your eyes closed. Take deep slow breaths to try and keep yourself calm. Make sure your alarm isn't too loud, so it doesn't startle you awake/wake you abruptly. Turn up just loud enough to wake you up in a more gradual manner.

Not moving is a common misconception. One can move. The goal is to not wake yourself up too much. (How much is too much? That depends on the person.) Of course, moving wakes someone up, but some people can reach over to turn off the alarm. Some people can roll over to a more comfortable spot. Some people can even open their eyes and look around for a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could get up, walk to the bathroom, come back, and then still DEILD.

The very most important thing is being comfortable. Relax, close your eyes... Drift off into a dream...
10-22-2009, 08:11 PM
KingYoshi

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

Not moving is a common misconception. One can move. The goal is to not wake yourself up too much. (How much is too much? That depends on the person.) Of course, moving wakes someone up, but some people can reach over to turn off the alarm. Some people can roll over to a more comfortable spot. Some people can even open their eyes and look around for a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could get up, walk to the bathroom, come back, and then still DEILD.

The very most important thing is being comfortable. Relax, close your eyes... Drift off into a dream...

That may be, but I strongly suggest NOT moving. I have a 90%+ success rate with DEILD with not moving and remaining calm and collected. I have no doubts that moving would lower my success rate. I definately do not recommend getting up, walking to the bathroom, and then DEILDing, lol. Firstly Andres, I would stick to the basics. Once you get a few DEILDs under your belt then you can alter your technique to find what is best for you. :)
10-23-2009, 01:35 AM
beachgirl

what kind of alarm turns itself off in 7 seconds?
thanks,
bg~~~
10-23-2009, 01:59 AM
panta-rei

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Originally Posted by KingYoshi

That may be, but I strongly suggest NOT moving. I have a 90%+ success rate with DEILD with not moving and remaining calm and collected. I have no doubts that moving would lower my success rate. I definately do not recommend getting up, walking to the bathroom, and then DEILDing, lol. Firstly Andres, I would stick to the basics. Once you get a few DEILDs under your belt then you can alter your technique to find what is best for you. :)

Worrying about moving too much is just as bad as getting up and doing jumping jacks. ;)
10-23-2009, 02:19 AM
KingYoshi

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

Worrying about moving too much is just as bad as getting up and doing jumping jacks. ;)

That is true, however I never said to worry. After waking from sleep, it is very easy not to move and brings no worries. In my experience DEILDs take a minute or less to re-enter the dream on average. No need to worry about not moving for a single minute. DEILD is a simple procedure with a high success rate, even higher if you do not move, but stay calm and relaxed. You do know that moving, tenses/flexes/uses muscles don't you? I would say while moving, your muscles aren't very relaxed now are they? You do not HAVE to remain still, but I recommend it. Especially for your first few times.
10-23-2009, 04:39 AM
AndresLD

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Originally Posted by beachgirl

what kind of alarm turns itself off in 7 seconds?
thanks,
bg~~~

I made a mp3 file which is 4 hours 30 minutes no sounds, then an alarm for 7 seconds, then it goes no sound for 30 more minutes, and then the alarm goes off again for 7 seconds. I used windows movie maker, and just recorded the sound of my ipod touch alarm on my computer (for 7 seconds) and added to it.
10-23-2009, 04:40 AM
AndresLD

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

Worrying about moving too much is just as bad as getting up and doing jumping jacks. ;)

Lol yeah I noticed that, but I mean, what I have understood is that, if you don't move, then you don't exit your REM cycle, and makes it easier to go straight into the dream.
10-23-2009, 02:18 PM
panta-rei

Yes of course. I am not disagreeing with that. I just know that a lot of people will move a little, then decided that it is a lost cause. Losing a good chance at a DEILD.
10-23-2009, 05:39 PM
slash112

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Originally Posted by AndresLD

I made a mp3 file which is 4 hours 30 minutes no sounds, then an alarm for 7 seconds, then it goes no sound for 30 more minutes, and then the alarm goes off again for 7 seconds. I used windows movie maker, and just recorded the sound of my ipod touch alarm on my computer (for 7 seconds) and added to it.

That is clever, I don't know why I haven't thought of that.

There was me trying to figure out how to get my alarm to ring for a couple times.:P
10-24-2009, 03:30 AM
AndresLD

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

Yes of course. I am not disagreeing with that. I just know that a lot of people will move a little, then decided that it is a lost cause. Losing a good chance at a DEILD.

What s funny is that, the one DEILD lucid dream I had (my only GOOD lucid dream), I actually woke up, opened my eyes, changed my sleeping position, and went back into the dream right away
10-24-2009, 03:33 AM
AndresLD

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Originally Posted by slash112

That is clever, I don't know why I haven't thought of that.

There was me trying to figure out how to get my alarm to ring for a couple times.:P

I actually got the idea from DV's member Balder

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Originally Posted by Balder

I have a mp3 with a audio file that plays some relaxing music and then 5.5 hours silence then a alarm that wakes me up then it plays over again when I try my DEILD wich makes it nice to WILD to relaxing music =)

Another option is to set your alarm to play a sound that is an alarm beep for 10 seconds then silence and turn off the snooze function.