Graphic Design Department

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This forum is for DV's Picasso's. Your job is to make sure the writer's needs for pictures for their pages are taken care of. Originality is the name of the game. The writer must explain in-depth what s/he is trying to relay in the picture that the writer is wanting the designer to create. Writers, be as specific as possible. You may also take the initiative to start creating "original" pictures that you think will be useful for the writer's and organizer's to add to the book. You will also be in charge of designing a cover for the book ;)

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Department Leader: Department leader's are supervisors of a certain department. They make sure work is being done and they have the authority to tweak, organize, call meetings etc. Staff may consult their department leader and department leader's may consult the Project Leader. Department leader's can hire additional staff members for their department at their discretion. Department leader's, if a staff member is not staying on task or doing what you are asking him/her for the benefit of the department (and ultimately the project) you can recommend them for termination to the Project Leader. Once again, I encourage Department leader's to hire more staff for their departments. To personally hire a new staff member, have them fill out an application and within that application in the additional comments section, have they say that you personally hired them.


The author of this post wrote this cognizant of the fact that staff members work in more than one department.


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Graphic Design Department Staff

Department Leader: adrift

mrdeano, Sugarglider11, Jabrol2001, doktorj

UPDATE:- Finished the points

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3209/62point.png

Look what I did :D
Since we can't use the other one because of copyright I made my own.
Any suggestions would be great.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4314/pinch.png

Reality check.

You don't have to use these images by the way. I had nothing to do, so I thought it would be fun to make them. :lol:

Great mrdeano!! These will definitely be used in the book! Kudos to early initiative :cheers:

I thought we could use this to help describe how dreams are built up.


http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9599/cat.png

Dream are built through perception and expectations.
Even though the image above is a set of random shapes, our expectations and perception tells us its a cat.

This is the same way dreams are built. For example, if in a dream you are stood in a hospital. Expectation tells you that there will be patients walking around. So now your stood in a hospital full of patients... ect

If you want me to make another image then I will be happy to. A cat was the first thing that came to mind.

EDIT - Ohh
Am I right in thinking that in order to perceive or expect something we need Schemas in place?

EDIT - ooh thanks Jeff :)

That's great deano :). And the brief explanation regarding the pictures will help our writers alot as well.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5375/hand.png


This is not finished.
I found it really hard to draw hands :( I had to find like a dozen reference pictures.

Anyway, I was still working on it.

:popcorn: These will DEFINITELY come in handy deano :D

Spoiler for Minor Updates:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4314/pinch.png
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3209/62point.png

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3898/pigz.png

Just showing some of the progress I am making with these pictures. Here is a flying pig.
Still needs a lot of work.

EDIT- Lol can you see the white circle?

These are great, Deano! 8D

And yes, I can see the white circle.

Deano's brilliant. I can see the white oval it as well :)

Very nice. I like the perception pic. We should do some more of them. I have an interesting idea if anyone is willing to do this. ...if i can find it. Well I'll let you know, its very interesting in the form of perception. One picture forming into something very unique and different.

How many people have flying pigs in their dreams?

Just wondering of course, very nice mrdeano

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Originally Posted by DeadDollKitty

How many people have flying pigs in their dreams?

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aha
Well, I drew that because another reality check is to look around you to see if your surroundings make sense. Of course if there is a flying pig then you know your dreaming.

Mkay, I was going to wait til some of the writing department contacted me so we know what exactly is going in the book, and what we need to create. If anyone has ideas for special stuff, extras, or just wants to get their art out, feel free. Tuus volat propriis. You fly on your own wings.

hey everyone, here for a job! got any illustrations ya' need?

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Originally Posted by adrift

hey everyone, here for a job! got any illustrations ya' need?

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As for the writing department and their needs, nothing specific as of yet. However, - for now, I'd like to see something completely original and LD-related that can (and will) be used by the writers in the book. Something likened unto what mrdeano did for example. :)

Graphics department, we need a picture to go along with the intro, - read our (rough draft version) intro and come up with a picture that could go along with it. We will be removing the picture already in place.

http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddm75ss6_29d5r3n7d4

DDK, please make sure that a PM is sent to all of your staff members (which can be a direct quote of this post if you want) so that they will not miss this post and thus get started now.

We would like this done ASAP.

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Jeff777

Graphics department, we need a picture to go along with the intro, - read our (rough draft version) intro and come up with a picture that could go along with it. We will be removing the picture already in place.

http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddm75ss6_29d5r3n7d4

DDK, please make sure that a PM is sent to all of your staff members (which can be a direct quote of this post if you want) so that they will not miss this post and thus get started now.

We would like this done ASAP.

Thanks :)

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Before I go a head with this, I need to know if the book is going to be in black & white or in colour.
Remembering that printing in colour is more expensive because it requires different paper and more ink to do so.

So I think if everyone else agrees. All graphics from now on should be in black & white.
I don't care if some of the graphics team moan about this. The value of this book is one of the most important thing. Members will not buy if it costs too much.

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Originally Posted by mrdeano

Before I go a head with this, I need to know if the book is going to be in black & white or in colour.
Remembering that printing in colour is more expensive because it requires different paper and more ink to do so.

So I think if everyone else agrees. All graphics from now on should be in black & white.
I don't care if some of the graphics team moan about this. The value of this book is one of the most important thing. Members will not buy if it costs too much.

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Excellent question mrdeano. I have not given it much thought, (seeing as I was leaving creative control regarding images as a whole to the graphics department itself) but black and white is much more feasible in terms of cost than colored images within the book (with the exception of the book cover itself).

hey everyone, here is a rough sketch of my idea for the chapter header illustration for the introduction. don't panic, it's just a sketch, not representative of the final version. the background, behind the window, is supposed to be clouds but the photo i used was bad so it will be more clear in the final. it's really loose in the sketch and will be cleaned up for the final, although i want to use charcoal, so there will be a primitive feel to the linework. the there will be no border edges for the illustration either, creating a floaty kind of effect.

besides that all i want to do otherwise is add some sunbeam effects, or shadow cast by the girl and the window by the overhead light.

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Originally Posted by adrift

hey everyone, here is a rough sketch of my idea for the chapter header illustration for the introduction. don't panic, it's just a sketch, not representative of the final version. the background, behind the window, is supposed to be clouds but the photo i used was bad so it will be more clear in the final. it's really loose in the sketch and will be cleaned up for the final, although i want to use charcoal, so there will be a primitive feel to the linework. the there will be no border edges for the illustration either, creating a floaty kind of effect.

besides that all i want to do otherwise is add some sunbeam effects, or shadow cast by the girl and the window by the overhead light.

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It's a great sketch, but it also seems a little nightmarish, and that's not like lucid dreaming.

yeah jeff mentioned it looked a little ghost-ish. i'm going to make sure that the figure has more of a solid feel in the final version. thanks for the critique! :)

adrift Has Been Promoted to Department Co-Leader

I just wanted to introduce myself to the department. I have experience in adobe after effects, 3ds max, boujou, and just a little photoshop. Heres my website I recently made that shows some of my work. http://cstproductions.webs.com/ Glad to join the team!

Alright guys I've had a rough week (I went to my college :p and I've had to plan my grad party and my future step dads party) So I'm sorry theres been lack of progress in here... I'm in contact with Naiya atm, and will hopefully get some deadlines instead of just diddlying around.

For the color of the book, I'm thinking some pictures (illustrations and such) should be done in black and white, but if you want to thrown in a full blown drawing, it should be done in color. I'm thinking maybe someone dreaming underneath a tree? Something people can connect with.

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Originally Posted by ThreeLetterSyndrom

It's a great sketch, but it also seems a little nightmarish, and that's not like lucid dreaming.

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To your response, I think we should have the truth and all of it. Some people face their nightmares in their lucid dreams.. Lucid dreaming is not all pretty colors and butterflies, we dont want to soften it up. People need to know what is going to take place, and sometimes it is scary.

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Originally Posted by DeadDollKitty

To your response, I think we should have the truth and all of it. Some people face their nightmares in their lucid dreams.. Lucid dreaming is not all pretty colors and butterflies, we dont want to soften it up. People need to know what is going to take place, and sometimes it is scary.

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But most of the time it isn't. Dreams are based on expectations after all. If people get the idea that nightmarish stuff is going to happen when they turn lucid, they'll be less likely to do so, and even if they do, it's likely that it'll happen.

Great convo. guys. In my personal opinion, I think you both are right. I think the reader should be made aware that their expectations become their subjective lucid reality. That being said, the reader will see what s/he expects to see...be it fluffy bunnies or carnivorous vampire zombie bunnies. My point is, the reader will be fully briefed about what their expectations within the lucid dream will lead to. So as opposed to dictating what they will experience, our aim is to make the reader aware that their dream starts off as a blank canvas and they are holding the golden paintbrush.

Both kinds of illustrations could be used really. Scott Stapp (from Creed) conquered a reoccurring nightmare by learning the art of lucid dreaming for example. So going back to what I said earlier, you both are correct.

Our goal is to educate and entice, not delude and/or frighten. We want the reader to understand both extreme sides of the spectrum when it comes to what can be experienced in a lucid dream, while at the same time making them fully aware that what they experience is a direct result of what they are consciously and/or unconsciously creating.

hey - can everyone in the graphic design dept. check in with a status update?

hello, i need a task.
i'm best at digital abstract/surrealism...

see my website gallery for more examples of what i'm capable of.

peace,
doktor J
http://www.doktorj.ca

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/4...fbc3f0.jpg?v=0

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Since you are both talking about the theme of "expectations change your dreams, for better or for worse, but once you're aware of this you can have them be what you want" I think you ought to make up one of these:

http://www.unoriginal.co.uk/optical_illusions/6full.gif http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squ...t-illusion.jpg http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/psyche/optical/11.jpg

Make it something scary, AND something beautiful. It's up to the reader to decide. Once they've overcome this initial obstacle they're forming the necessary mindframe to dominate their dreams. Once they've learned to switch back and forth, they realize it's all a matter of perception.

So much color, Doktor!

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I like Shift's idea. Also, great work doktorj. :)

I'm sorry to say that I am going to have to resign from leader of the Graphics Department of the book. My real life is becoming way too hectic (what with my first year of college coming up and such) for me to put some real effort into the book. I am making Adrift leader of the Graphics Department in hopes that he can do a better job that I can. I hope to remain part of the team and will become a part-time worker in the Graphic Arts department and am still open to suggestions and critics.

Good Luck,
DDK

Just checking in, how is everyone? Any projects ? im itchy for art right now :D

Jabrol, howabout you get started making something similar to what Shift was describing above? That'd be awesome. :)

:shock: ok :D im going to have some fun with this :P ill see what i can come up with, ill probably have multiple ones, not sure when ill be able to start, got work next two days and school starting on monday, sooo when i get some free time i will :D

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Originally Posted by adrift

hello friends. i just wanted to address something as I return to the position of GD leader. I am very caught up with school right now so until I have some time off again I will not be involved in creating works for the book. I will, however, help to direct graphic designers with projects and help with the overall design process. That entails helping out with designs and providing advice for improving work. I will not be visiting DV daily however, and the best way to contact me would be through my email. So i would ask that all concerns/questions/ideas be directed to my email and i'll try to get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you.

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i know im not on the graphic design team but i have been getting better with GIMP and i am going to attempt to create the cover and back cover of the book

i will leave off the title so we can add it in when we come up with one

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Originally Posted by Banana

i know im not on the graphic design team but i have been getting better with GIMP and i am going to attempt to create the cover and back cover of the book

i will leave off the title so we can add it in when we come up with one

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There are a number of things you need to take into consideration when creating a book cover.
One of them is copyright. You CANNOT use any images you have found online. Unless you have permission for the owners of the image or you have taken it yourself.

I think we should all have a stab at the cover, and then get the community to vote for their favourite. Makes them think they are involved with the process.

Spoiler for 2nd draft:

http://droidz.org/share/12115/1255570515.png

i got the moon pic from Nasa's website and they had just about all info about it except something says says its copyrighted. i figured id be good to go

got the background from planetrenders

edit: http://www.zshare.net/download/66965888c5897457/

the psd for anyone who wants to edit it in any way

new draft

brand new summary

new font

i notice the text is a little too high, i will fix that before my next draft is uploaded.

Spoiler for ...:

http://droidz.org/share/12115/1255577672.png

and just in case you didnt notice, the right is the front, the left is the back, and the middle column is the spine

I just had an idea as to what may be added to the book.

A sort of psychological test type of game alike "the odd one out"
A way to train analytical/critical awareness.

Imagine a series of 5 pictures, one of them being a Dream Scene.
Like this:
- A picture of a downtown street with cars and pedestrians.
- A picture of a public park with some trees floating in mid-air.
- A picture of a car parking lot next to a wallmart.
- A picture of a bear plundering a beeshive in the forrest.
- A picture of a submarine near the bottom of the ocean.

Obviously a public park in which trees are floating in mid-air is a dead giveaway for being a Dream Scene. But it's okay to start easy.
As the series of images progress, they could become more difficult to distinguish;
The absurdity of the DreamScene could be reduced and the Dreamsigns could become more and more subtile and hard to notice as the series of images progress.

That could lead to a series of images like this:
- A picture of a drunk homeless man with a bottle of whiskey sitting on the street.
- A picture of a ladybug on a bright yellow flowerpetal
- A picture of a man fishing from a boat in a lake
- A picture of a woman doing Yoga amidst a street full of busy, stressy people
- A picture of a Seagull chasing after an Eagle

The last one is still obviously the dreamscene. But dreamsigns could be infinitely more subtile.
Doing these tests regulairly might help you more easily recognise the Dream state.
Just my little contribution.

PS:
I'd love to draw illustrations and diagrams for this book so let me know if I can be of any graphical assistance to the book. I'd be glad to help.
LooseMinded on deviantART >> My drawings

I might create a cover too. Just posting this so that I get updates on this thread lol