I've been curious about how prominent the use of alcohol and other mind-altering drugs is among lucid dreamers.
I have not done either in about 14 years, and I'm wondering if it has anything to do with this gift? Please answer the poll.
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I've been curious about how prominent the use of alcohol and other mind-altering drugs is among lucid dreamers.
I have not done either in about 14 years, and I'm wondering if it has anything to do with this gift? Please answer the poll.
My question is whatabout your parents, my parents were both hippies.... They arent any more theyve cut their hair so to speak but back in the day they were...
I Drink on the weekends preferrably Guinness or Fosters.
I smoke herb every now and again
And even more rare I hang out with this funguy named Psilosybe
Alchohol, too much, you dont remember shit, a little bit, lowers inhibitions and ive had a tad more control in dream
Weed too much dont remember shit, just a bit lengthened dreamtimes
Psilosybe....Waking and dream become one and you have vivid as hell dreams for a day or so.
Ive gone cold turkey on all of them just to see what would happen to my dreaming and it did not lessen my abilities, nor did they enhance, I think in moderation they can give you a different perspective each is unique and as such expands your mind to see new things, in different ways... which I think alot of people really need, it helps one see things from others perspectives to a point I think.
[size=9]*pssssst* ....say "o" to rugs!
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heeh
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:lol: it was on a sign, the n and the d wore off so now i tell everyone to say "o" to rugs
actually when we first saw it i stopped before entering the store, looked at the rug that was layin there, and said "o". it was funny.
I dabble in the booze and herb now and again, and it really hurts my dreaming....but like I've said before when I eat last before I goto bed has the most effect on wether I lucid dream
I've read that alcohol and weed can both inhibit REM sleep. I also agree with Serinanth that weed will make it harder to remember dreams. I've come to this conclusion because I have been smoking every day for the last month or so, and when I let off for a few days, my dream recall increased dramatically. It's too bad that my girl left me because since I have paranoid anxiety disorder and am also an insomniac, I have begun to smoke regularly again since I cannot sleep w/o it. I hate feeling dependent on things, but whatever gets me through the day, you know?
ask curios he's a pothead/drunkard..sure he'd know all about the effects
hahaha that was funny
Just wanted to jump in on this thread and add my two cents. I tend to imbibe rather frequently and when i do, i rarely dream at all. I got right shitfaced last night and did not dream at all, that i can re,meber, and i almost ALWAYS remember. Or it may be due to the fact that i was staying the night at a friends place and was in unusual surroundings. When i can afford it, i smoke pot on a daily basis, as i find it really eases my tension and a lot of the anxiety that is inherent in my personality. Besides the herb is just a wonderful thing for me to partake of. Happy Tommy! In relation to dreaming, if i am away form the booze and stick to the herbage alone, i dream just as lucidly as when i do nothing at all. But as someone else has stated, it is more difficult to recall the dream after i have emerged from it. I am having so much fun with my dreams lately i think iwill swear of the bottle for awhile, its not helping me deal with a lot of painful emotional issues right now.....BUT MY DREAMS SURE ARE!!!
First off I just want to say I smoke weed every day.
the rest of the drugs on this list I have 'experimented with' using most for but a week in order to gain a full experience. I don't use needles either.
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um, here's my list:
ganja, shrooms (Cubenzi, Kosimouee), lsa, lsd, dextromethorphan, ketamine, mdma, mda, mde, methanphetamines, anphetamines, opiates (morphine, heroin, oxycodone, hydrocodone, traumadol, oxymorphone, morphine, etc.), mescaline, dyphenhydramine, salvia dinavorum, passion flower, kava kava, riddlin, zoloft, cocain, melatonin, welbutrin, dagga, Ayuwusca, tobacco, alcohol, a ton of over the counter pseudo speeds & weird tryptos as a kid by my parents.
(I am not including conventional food, but they are bad drugs too, gluten is highly addictive... like heroin addictive, sugar and coffee arn't far off either. Not to mention the methal-etc.s of shampoos and conditioners, the transmition fluid in toothpaste, and a lot of other crazy shit i wish i never knew.) i feel as though I may be missing 1 or 2...oh well.
I have stopped doing all of the above save for the psychotropics and psychadelics (and I mean, is there really any reasonnot to?).
I have aspirations to do peyote, datura (despite ealy negative dyphen trips) and, god willing, some good dmt. ==dmt achieved! Best Lucidity thus far. It is in your brain already, it is in plants, go find them! they are spirit guides.
I see energy waves in motionless objects in broad daylight. Some would not take my road, some get freaked out. I feel and use energy that I thought waas brain damage previously. Turns out that they're really are gaps in reality. hehe, fun!
My lucid dreams were best with good 'ol Dex (robotussin, sucrets, dexalone) and, of course, melatonin.
Dextromethorphan, the super componant to maximum strength robitussin, is a dissociative, like special k, and 3 bottles (assuming you're not native american, then never ever ever dex, never!) will take one through all the levels of meditation to the removed self and then he void and the double perspective where divination is possible (as well as divination spells and weird transcendental meditation -we're talking planets kids, if you can hold your shit in) and where lucid dreaming is MOST powerful.
Think it and it is.
believe it and it listens. look to the objects that surround you. once souless, ou can hear their bodies in time and space and know all things in birth and death.
This of course can be done perfectly sober. Taoist meditation is now what I practice because, as one can imagine, chugging robo is fucking sick. It just happens to be the unique way that I lost self and gaining total allignment with my dreams. haven't had a nightmare since
by natural means now, meditation and smoking green herbs, I can reach similar states of mind sober. I can go anywhere, do anything. It is so peaceful. My dreams have the same calm. Now my true desire is to bring such calm into my active life, deep zen meditation, walking meditation, and trying to learn to 'see' with my empty mind. Life is incredible. Magic everywhere.
sorry to the shocked, i'm just being honest
I reccomend ganja for a clear mind and a happy heart, hallucinations for wisdom and truth. The rest only seemed to use me, I like non-addictive drugs such as these. Green tea is also excellent.
peace free weed
Whatever...Quote:
Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
ask curios he's a pothead/drunkard..sure he'd know all about the effects
Im not going to waste any time or effort on making you feel like a piece of shit you do enough harm to your own self.
Anyhow yes these mind altering drugs do what they claim. I have experienced intese lucid dreams that are great after staying up all night on shrooms.
If you use weed and others you will have lucid dreams but may experience bad recall.
When you stop the weed or alcohol then you may experience more lucid dreams.
I found change in everything helps alot in dreaming.
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ask curios he's a pothead/drunkard..sure he'd know all about the effects *
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Anyhow yes these mind altering drugs do what they claim. I have experienced intese lucid dreams that are great after staying up all night on shrooms. *
If you use weed and others you will have lucid dreams but may experience bad recall. *
When you stop the weed or alcohol then you may experience more lucid dreams. *
I found change in everything helps alot in dreaming.
"Whatever..." denial?
"Im not going to waste any time or effort on making you feel like a piece of shit you do enough harm to your own self."
1. You couldn't make me feel like a piece of shit if you tried your hardest.
2. What do you mean, I "harm myself"? I'm quite fine.
Hahaha. Nice, that proves you are a "pothead/drunkard"...That's a lot of damn shrooms buddy...Quote:
I have experienced intese lucid dreams that are great after staying up all night on shrooms. [/b]
It sounds like you have a lot of ... drug ... time to experiment...
Paperdoll: I think he means some emotional harm?
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Blu - You use a SHI*LOAD OF DRUGS! *Tip* [non-medication]Drugs aren't healthy [including misuse of medication drugs]!
Danasheilds - There is no poll...
You can watch air currents too I bet :wink:
I dont have the same bredth of experimentation, but I think you and I are on the same page blulanou.
I totaly agree, Life is incredible and there is magic everywhere, you just need to open your eyes and see it.
And most of the world just needs to stop ignoring it becuse it scares them.
I think the worse use of drugs is using prescription and over the counter drugs in the way recommended, because a lot of those are made to simply make you want the drug more... they have strange ways of fighting simple problems. A head ache? take some tylenol, so it will make your stomach bleed and thin your blood, so that the blodd flowing through your body is less obtrusive, and therefore less "painful", I guess? I don't know, whatever. Acetiminophen(tylenol) is probably one of the worst drugs in the world, with insane toxicity levels. It's almost like a poison that's dealt to all of us by the biggest "drug dealer" in the world: the FDA! Acetiminophen fucking kills our livers, too. So.. say what you want about drugs are bad and all that bit, and your right, they are, I'm just saying they aren't any worse than some of the other drugs that people take for granted.
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Uuhhhggggg.... Ya...
Holy shit! :o i cant even handle pot anymore myself, i find reality to challenging as it is!Quote:
Originally posted by Blulanou42
um, here's my list:
ganja, shrooms, lsa, lsd, dextromethorphan, ketamine, mdma, mda, methanphetamines, anphetamines, opiates (morphine, heroin, oxycodone, hydrocodone, traumadol, etc.), dyphenhydramine, salvia dinavorum, passion flower, kava kava, riddlin, zoloft, cocain, melatonin, welbutrin, dagga, tobacco.
(I am not including conventional food, but they are bad drugs too, gluten is highly addictive... like heroin addictive, sugar and coffee arn't far off either) * * * * *i feel as though I may be missing 1 or 2...oh well.
[quote]I reccomend ganja for a clear mind and a happy heart, hallucinations for wisdom and truth. The rest only seemed to use me, I like non-addictive drugs such as these.
peace free weed
"Clear mind" and happy heart? Try fog-brain :P and delusioned :huh: . That's been my experience with ganja, anyway.
It very much depends on the buds... Highs range from giggly, couchlock, cerebrall, clear, happpy/active, stoned... there are more that i cannot recall at the moment
Weed has been selectively bred for hundreds, if not thousands of years so different varieties have certain tastes and highs... But uhh.. I know nuzzing about that :banana:
shherrrrrrrrrr...
Yes, I've experienced a full range of the effects of the green (and the purple, the red, chocolate, and even fluorescent green w/crystals, etc. etc. etc.). I still think it's overrated and DEFINITELY good at one thing: exterminating brain cells. :shakehead:
i dunno about weed... but shrooms are the best if you ask me, and believe me, i have very little experience. haha