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Ok every time i go lucid i get a gun of course, and i do but when i get it its kinda....broken. Everytime i spawn a gun its in some weird shape or it shoots weird like last time i spawned a gun but it was a sphere that folded out like the handled folded out and when i tried to shoot there was no trigger!!! i tried really hard to make one appear and it worked. other times they were defective and sucked! anybody else have this?
That is something that has always happened and annoyed me with my guns in dreams (usually not lucid). They will misfire, or the bullets just fall out of the barrel, or it is like gravity is off and the bullets go up and down in weird slow trajectories, or I just never can get a good shot. I don't know why this happens; it seems to be more than the mechanical-things-don't-work-in-dreams rule. Other people have rarely been able to shoot me.
I think I have read about other people with this problem. I wonder why. Maybe we just don't think we should be shooting people, and it is strong enough to influence the dream, but I do other things I shouldn't do with no problem. And I am only trying to shoot bad people. I don't play a lot of computer games, so I don't have a lot of practice shooting people, but it seems like people who do would not have this inhibition in dreams. Maybe the reality of the dream is different than the game; I don't know but I think it is a fairly common problem.
Do other people shoot successfully? I should read some dream journals and find out I guess!
I think one thing that may be hindering you guys is that you are over thinking what the gun is. You just have to make the shape and the concept that when you fire it where it is pointing gets destroyed. It sounds like you are thinking about it in the sense that the gun is projecting the bullet and the different parts of it. Think back to when you were little did you ever pretend your hand was a gun? If you did I bet you didn't look at your hand and say to yourself what every little bit of your hand is and what it is doing, and also when you shoot it you don't think of it launching out a projectile that then flys along a predictable path to its destination no you think of it as though what you were aiming at just got shot. I usually find when I try to make things overly realistic that they come out funky.
Yeah, I have this problem all the time. You'll see if you read one of the last dreams in my DJ. When I fired it, I pulled the trigger twice, and the two bullets stuck into each other, slid out of the barrel, and dropped straight to the floor. I was like, WTF :huh: just happened, it ruined the dream, that was the main thing I wanted to do (killing spree!!) and I couldn't. :pissed:
I don't think I've ever had a malfunction with a gun I've had while I was lucid. But, I did have my first gun malfunction in a non-lucid a few nights ago. Every time I would try to cock back the slide on an automatic pistol, the slide would come off and the entire gun would fall apart.
I prefer hand to hand stuff.
Yeah, there's nothing like ripping someones legs off and kicking them to death with their own feet :bigteeth: and bitch slapping people you don't like :bslap: , only to have them try to punch you back and break their fists apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeAvO
So do I.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeAvO
..doesn't mean I won't pick up a Glock every now and then, though. :cooler:
I've never tried guns before, I find it funner to go down the street and smack some random person on the back of the head :bigteeth:
You people are all too gun obsessed :P
(Go for Katanas, much more fun)
That's assuming anyone that has guns in their dreams doesn't use other weapons. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by TweaK
I've got a dream journal full of everything from guns to daggers, katanas, nunchaku, fists, feet, wtfever. :teeth:
Diversity, yo. Diversity.
You must have some intense dreams :bowdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Yeah diversity's great, but you've got to have a favorite, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Yup, hand-to-hand melee wins, hands-down. (no pun intended. :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by badassbob
There is nothing better than using the mixed martial arts prowess I have in my head (that my body can't even come close to keeping up with) against a group of like 6 or 7 DCs all trying to kick the shit out of me, simultaneously.
..Absolutely Nothing. :putemuppunk:
Hahaha.
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And Yup @ NeAvO.
I've got a few. :ninja:
I personally have to say let the robot minions fight, there is nothing like a million robots under your command destroying the world by ripping off one limb at a time. It is a really hard thing to keep going though, usually ends really quickly for me but I feel it is worth it.
ive never tried to spawn a gun, but i did spawn a light saber in a recent lucid dream of mine:
i'm being chased by these two guys and i realize i was dreaming so i turned around to confront them. I held out my hand and thought of a lightsaber appearing. first it spawned on my had but was invisible, then it gained its sound, then i brought out the blade and it finally apeared except is was one of the fake plastic ones. It still cut peoples heads off though :)
Haha yeah I know what you mean :D In my opinion, melee > firing arms by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
i have never made a guns in my dreams but i would like to i reckon u have to think harder about this picture the gun first in good detail go from there
I haven't used a gun in a LD.. yet.
Only one time have i ever used a gun in my dreams, and it were like shooting blanks, everything appeared to function properly, but no bullet nor damage caused.
Though i prefer my trusted Katana, which have started to pop up in non-lucids too.
MyGod, you'll wind up some night getting drunk in a bar and waking up in jail guilty of killing a dozen people with a trophy sword you had found hanging on the wall...Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlock
You must be careful how you condition your subconscious mind... as you can never be sure when it might someday, or some drunken night, take over from you.
I often have the same problem. Guns shooting blanks or shooting astray. Or there's no ammo.
The only solution that worked for me is to shoot regardless of anything. Almost overpowering the dream. Project your desire to destroy your target rather than just point and squeeze the trigger.
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Originally Posted by Leo
Lmfao. :chuckle:
But yeah, I definitely agree with Ev. It seems that bypassing the "mechanics" of getting a gun to shoot and just focusing more on the desire to connect the shot is the best way to go. Same thing with punching, for that matter. I used to have so much trouble punching because somehow the punch would get lagged in between the throw and landing. Now I don't think about the punch, mid-flight, I just visualize my fist hitting the target.
Just because you might not be able to handle yourself while you're under the influence of alcohol, it doesn't mean other people can't. Intoxication is not an excuse to stop controlling yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
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The only thing i ever drink is cider, and getting drunk from that is extremely hard.
I've never been drunk, and never will, i'll be sure to cut out my own tongue if that ever happens.
And it did pop up in a dream of war... and i dont think war is coming to sweden any time soon, so i don't think i will mistake reality for dream, and i'm not so stupid that when i suddenly think i am dreaming, that i jump out of the window or kill random people as a reality check.
It seems like you have to be really good at control to by-pass the mechanical failures, which I'm not. I haven't noticed other devices failing so much as guns tho. Maybe because every time I tried to one it was I really needed it and so it really sucked when it didn't work. Actually I can't think of many other mechanical things I often use. Travelling in vehicles usually seems to work OK but I'm not usually driving, more like mass transport. I can write (during FA's when I think I'm recording my dream!) but that's not really mechanical.
But also, like Oneironaut said has happened to him, it can be hard to hit too, like when you're trying to run and it is like wading thru water.
So, Oneironaut and Ev: when you by-pass the mechanics of the gun (or the punch), and visualize it happening, does it just like magically happen that the person is knocked over, or does the gun seem to work right? Or does it happen so fast that you really can't tell the difference and it doesn't matter?
I used a gun in my LD just last night, I used my hand to form a gun, and the bullets come out my finger.
most of the time i just shape my hand like a gun like little kids do and shoot
I would never trust myself with a gun :sheepishgrin:
Not even in a lucid dream? :o
lol i know huh
Nope. I'd be on a killing rage. I'm joking! DUH! In fact I'll try it next lucid dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by TweaK
I can only shoot blanks :(
My wife complains cause i have the same problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jlick
Rarely use guns in LD's. I prefer to deal out the pain by hand too.
Though, in a lucid dream a couple of nights ago I was being chased by these things that were a cross between aliens and zombies or something. I got caught in an alley way and had nothing with which to defend myself. I remembered I was dreaming and simply made my hand into a gun. Simply pointed at whoever I wanted to shoot and my finger would discharge a bullet just like a real gun. It was amazing.
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I lolled. Hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by jswift
That would be cool; I'll have to try that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex
thats what ui usually do because regular guns kinda suck
methinks its all to do with understanding.
if you understand how an m4 works in real life, know how the cartige loads, how the firing pin works, have some sense of how it feels to fire one (even if you havent) an above all can IMAGINE all this in your head, then i would say that you would have no prob wi usin guns.
if you cant figure out how they work, your mind cant proces them properly and make them dream acurate. Jus my lil theorie on the whole 'mechanical things dont work' issue in lucids
I disagree, I used an L98 (single shot version of the SA80) when I went to marine cadets a few years back. I could take it apart, and put it back together blindfolded, but I still can't use guns in dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwatch
No this is not true. I shoot IRL all the time and still my dream guns don't work. That's partly why it is so frustrating; just when I need to use a weapon as a matter of life or death (I think, in my dream), not just for fun, it won't work. It's always really a bummer. That's why I need to get that finger-shooting down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwatch
I have a compound bow IRL too, but I never tried to use that in a dream. I guess it is not the first thing (or actually even second or third thing) I think of as a defensive weapon. Maybe I would have more luck with that.
I had the problem of a non working gun once... but One technique I found out is that if you just tell yourself that you are in a dream that YOU control. Bash the gun to the ground and it WILL work
what if it breaks? jk i definetly try that
you can always as other people mentioned deal with it hand to hand....
Or you could try phasing in more complex guns.... try out a bow and arrow then a spud gun... then a water pistol ... then a pistol etc
We once blew a hole thru a wooden shed IRL with a spud gun; it was old and rotten tho (the shed I mean.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison
I don't think this will work for me; there is something about projectiles that don't seem to work. But I'll try...if the right situation comes up...