Its like masturbation in my opinion, Would you beat yourself up over masturbating?
Printable View
Its like masturbation in my opinion, Would you beat yourself up over masturbating?
ROFL
Astral sex is the excangeing of energies whit another person,and it can lead to opsession and a veding(and devorce)i wlouden't do A sex,it's "to powerful" opsessing,it's not a masturbation,and LD sex is but this isn't
so yes it is cheating
Sorry, I didnt realise. Scratch my opinion then.Quote:
Astral sex is the excangeing of energies whit another person,and it can lead to opsession and a veding(and devorce)i wlouden't do A sex,it's "to powerful" opsessing,it's not a masturbation,and LD sex is but this isn't[/b]
given one is innocent until proven guilty...
well, that's not definitely something you can prove... so...
not where i come from XDQuote:
given one is innocent until proven guilty...
[/b]
Ok, the way i see it. 70% of the female population have NEVER had a... ahem.... Vaginal orgasm. this is due to men's ignorance of female anatomy.
so from the female side i can see why it would not be an infedlity because most likely in thier dreams or on the astral plane they are probably having much better orgasms than what their current lover can provide. so, to any guys if your GF goes to the bathroom immidiately after the act, it's probably not because they went to pee LOL.
PLUS astral sex may keep them from cheating on their current lover. since they can just go into dreaming to get off! so if it keeps the relationship going. i certainly wouldn't have a problem with it.
I read it on this board somewhere but I cant find the original post. Can someone please give me the link? Thanks.
I don't think it's considered cheating. Your dreams are just another reality, which isn't the same as the reality you're in now. Therefore, when you have sex with a DC, you aren't really having sex in waking life, are you? So my opinion is that you didn't really cheat or anything. That is even when you're lucid. In normal dreams when you aren't aware that you're dreaming, I think it's even more appropiate to say that it's certainly not cheating. Your subconscience created the whole scenario. All you do is accept the reality as your own, as if you have no other reality, which you have, you just don't know it in normal dreams.
I hope that makes at least some sense. :)
This topic has been brought up before, but in my mind, if you are in a committed relationship with someone, having sex with a DC is considered cheating. This applies only to a lucid dream since you have full control and know right from wrong.
Let me reverse this question. If your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife/partner rolled over one morning and started telling you all about the most amazing sexual encounter they had with a DC that night, wouldn't it hurt your feelings? Not even just little bit?
Reality is reality, there is no difference between waking and lucid reality because in both, your concious mind is active.
Might as well, Its only a matter of time until I find the original Sex with DC thread.
:hijack:
No. It doesn't count as cheating. It's like saying masturbation is cheating.
Still nobody has answered my question....
what about swinging
In my experience no it's not. But don't share it with your partner cuz trust me they will still feel hurt!
It's real, though. You're able to see, hear, taste, smell and feel stuff. You're just in another reality with different rules. Of course it's created by your mind. If the lucidity reality weren't real, why would your waking reality be real? You perceive things the same way. Except that the type of input is different. Besides, when you're walking with someone in the waking reality, and you ask the person you're walking with: "Did you see that little bug over there?" Chances are high he wouldn't even have noticed. So what is real, really?Quote:
Well, except... you know... that the lucid reality isnt real.[/b]
True...Quote:
Reality is reality, there is no difference between waking and lucid reality because in both, your concious mind is active.[/b]
I see your point, however, it's still tough to answer that.Quote:
Let me reverse this question. If your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife/partner rolled over one morning and started telling you all about the most amazing sexual encounter they had with a DC that night, wouldn't it hurt your feelings? Not even just little bit?[/b]
That's a good way to look at it. :P "What one doesn't know, can't hurt."Quote:
Simply don't tell your partner you had sex with DC. Nobody will be hurt. [/b]
OK, so why would you want to keep a secret like that from your partner? Is it because they would feel like you are cheating on them and probably break up with you?
Someone mentioned that lucid sex is just masterbation. OK, Go down the the local porno shop, rent a movie, masterbate to it and then tell your partner how good it was and how much you enjoyed fantasizing about the ladies, especialy the blonde with the big boobs.
Our dreams are all in our mind. Its an alternate reality, but its not real. Our dreams are our mind, or subconscious. In our dreams we defy real laws. In our dreams these laws are non-existant.
But, it all depends on the question What is real? Is real what you can see? Hear? Touch? Taste and Smell? If thats the case then dreaming is as real as reality.
But is reality where science exists? Where laws of the universe exist? Where the universe is in its 4 dimensions? Is real where you can live and die? Is real a physical manifestation? If thats the case, then dreaming is the farthest thing from real, and is nothing but a pseudo-reality.
Can real even be defined? Let me ask you this. A person hears voices in their head, claim that someone is talking to them even though they are alone. They are legally insane. Are those voices real? They are there to the person. They can hear them. They, and they alone experience it. Just like our dream worlds. Each person has their own dream world that they alone experience. So if that person's voices arent real, why are our dream worlds? If someone is tripping out on LSD and they start seeing things, are those things real? They're hallucinations, but the person can see, hear, touch, smell and possibly taste them. Its all an illusion to the person, but its real?
Its all a matter of opinion on whats real, and whats not. Its all on your definition of real. Just so you know, when I told Seeker that its "You know, not real" I was making a small joke. Real is a variable. Real is different for every person. Im agnostic on the subject, and in saying Real is a variable, I say the circumstances depend on the definition of Real. Reality is constantly changing. So dreams may or may not be real. Its up to the person to decide whats real and whats not.
In the moment of your dream, as you exist in the universe that is your mind. Its real. It exists to you. But once you awake, its no longer real. The reality it was is destroyed and its nothing but an illusion you experianced.
So, on the subject of wether its considered cheating... No. I dont believe it is. The characters in your dreams are not real. They dont exist. They are characters in your mind. They are characters that do not exist in the real world and were created by your subconscious. If having sex with a DC in a dream is cheating, then just thinking of sex with someone else is cheating. Thats not to say its right to think of sex with someone else, but it cant be helped. Its an urge that we as humans have. When you dream, ultimatly you are just thinking on a larger more intense scale.
Ok, so what is the final conclusion. Is it cheating, or isn't it?
Maybe both. I would base my decision "to keep secret or to talk" on how much is partner open-minded and tolerant to dreams.
My opinion: Every person has had sex dreams at least once a life. Members of partnership are people, too. So "this cheating" would be fifty-fifty. It would be just a issue of finding the gently way of talking about it. And I think dreams are a good source of ideas (techniques, foreplay, afterplay, ...) to try for preventing sex becoming dull (:hump:).
Well yes that is why people wouldn't tell, but we all live in independant conscous worlds it's from the phase "what you don't know won't hurt you" in this case theres a 100% chance it will never effect your partner inless your foolish enough to tell them, it's the telling that hurts them, no I would not want my partner to cheat on me, and I would never cheat on them, simply becouse of the risk of hurting their feelings.
This may sound a bit weird but if my partner (I don't have a partner BTW) cheated on me in a dream and I knew nothing about it, I'm sure I wouldn't feel hurt, though I don't want it to happen, I'm sure it wouldn't effect me, and if she was stupid enough to tell me about it, well I wouldn't like that.
Cheating with a DC may not be the most light hearted thing you can think of all though the truth is cold hearted, I mean no one wants their partners to cheat in a dream, but it will be totaly harmless to them.
One of the gifts of having an independant mind.