Achieving Lucidity in one night...

I just joined these forums last night after watching the 'Butterfly Effect' and I thought I'd look for somewhere to post my mind. Well crazy as it sounds, I read the Lucid dreaming tutorial and found out that I am always close to Lucidity since I have been studying some crazy shit, mainly on existance, and time. So I went to sleep with an easy focus and reputation and woke up at 4am with full memory of my dream. It was tied to thoughts and stuff that happened that day, so I wrote down that links from the dream to reality and figured out I actually had fears, fears that I had blocked out for so long, stuff like being lost in insanity.

But I never walk away from fear, using logic aswell beliefs I wrote down some deep philosophies. Whether they are right, or even possible to prove I am not sure yet. I looked at the clock and it was now 6am, then it became 7am shortly after... My phsychic level was off the scale as I was beggining to make sense of a greater existance, another dimension that I called Blur. Am I insane? No, I have a grip on reality and am not stupid enough to get lost so I proceed with caution.

Now here's the really tripped out part, I finally fall asleep again at 7am. And within a few minutes I see my grandma looking at me with glowing purple eyes, so bright that it blurs her whole face, then she begins to say things, on a frequency I cannot understand. In fear of knowing it's a dream I attempt to forcefully wake up... I'm paralyzed at first, and my eyes are trying to open but it requires to much effort, I begin to muster up all I have and push my self up, my whole body is tingling and the force of gravity is pushing me down so hard that I start to feel pain just opening my mouth. As my eyes open, my top eyelid covers some of my view, each time I close my eyes I see my grandma. I concentrate on my breathing and slowly open my eyes being a bit more conscience, and notice the enviroment around me... Now the image of my grandma dissapears and I see a bucket and pinoclean in the bathroom, except my view of it seems wavy, like I have goggles on and they're filled with water. The last image I see I can't decribe, it rotates like a clock and it similar to a ride u would see at an amusement park, but it's different. Then I wake up completely, and look at the time, it's 7:20.

I'm beggining to think I'm reaching the limits of my sanity of logic. You guys think I've lost it? If not, I'll show you some more crazy stuff I wrote down on paper, almost incomprehencable to understand, yet somehow I still do. :|

:) welcome Newbie!

:) welcome Newbie!

i wanna see some of this stuff you've written down. dreams are almost never logical, so don't worry too much about your sanity :). still, i'm not exactly sure of everything you've experienced, so i'm not one to talk.

anyways, i'm really curious to see some of this stuff you've written down.

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Originally posted by Khronos


I'm beggining to think I'm reaching the limits of my sanity of logic. You guys think I've lost it? If not, I'll show you some more crazy stuff I wrote down on paper, almost incomprehencable to understand, yet somehow I still do. :|

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No you aren't crazy. Just stick around here a bit more and you'll see that many of us are trying really hard just to have a similiar experience to share with the gang here in dreamviews.

Welcome Newbie. You'll have a lot of fun here.

Blissful

alrite, but it's some f*cked up stuff so be warned... :?

First off, I suggest you rent the 'Butterfly Effect' and watch the movie then it's philosiphical special features, if you blaze budz then I suggest you do that also. Have you ever thought so big ans spaced out that you don't even know what you're thinking about? Well I'm trying to harniss that as cheesy as it sounds. I believe that order is destroying our depths of discovery, and in doing so will eventually lead to our end. But before I get too complicated, I am going to give an analyses on a how I started thinking of this hypothesis, and so on... This will also help put my thoughts in better order. It's going to be rough though, so it might get confusing.

The idea itself: Think of a bigger complexity, such as higher dimensions and incapable and irrational thinking. Use that as the main focus to open up a higher level of thinking. (This is where psychic,fate,blurs can happen)

First thing needed is a purpose:
Too get a purpose I thought of what I stand for, and the importance of my life/spirit/whatever in this dimension. This is also important to feel comfortable with my sanity and how far I should go. I have also incorperated religion into my points of view so I can overcome any fears while at the same time keep logic to keep me from snapping or freaking out, slowly I develop the idea. I look at the global warming aspect, that ensures we are creating our own death, and I use that reason to think of the good of my idea.

Now that I have a purpose I can create the actual idea, but too understand something uncharted, you must first understand yourself:
To do this, I looked deep within myself, and looked at myself not from a 1st, 3rd, or omniscient point of view, but as a whole, that goes beyond existance. If you think looking at the stars makes you feel small, wait till you hear what I came up with. :| The following equations are scattered, but I feel that they are all linked together.

/ = Over
If you want me to explain this part more let me know.

(Mind sets... Phychology, philosophy, blocking, forgetting, what we do not understand) I also have some drawings of my dimensions. (Kind of like DNA)

View existance as a whole.
Reality/Time = Existance/Mind
Time/Logic
Reality/Time
Existance/Mind
dream(self view)/change
What if? What=logic If=chance
order/chaos
fate
all awarness
change/reality
Space, dimensions
curiousity/control
insanity/control
remembering old dreams, giving them reason
fear/logic
fear/imagination
fear = being lost without logic
choice/regret = fear/change
LOGIC
blur
4th Dimension
Dna
Heven/Hell
Fear=insecurity=unsureness=caution=feat=insecurity etc...
Chain, link, circle
need/preservation
rediscover dreams/meanings
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Now that I've made exactly no sense I'm going to make things alot more difficult for you and for me. What I am doing is trying to understand my fears. And I'm not reffering to killer clowns, I'm referring to what we do not understand, the void, the darkness, I'm trying to walk into uncharted territory and discover it. Philosophers have probably done this, but they only use a basic rule set of logic, what happened to all the real visionaries... Society has changed the outcome from wisdom to technology. But in creating technology we have forgotten our primal nature. Now there are a few things going through my mind...
1. Time Travel by mind
2. Understanding fears and overcoming them to change fate. (BF effect)
3. Movie scripts and creative thinking
4. Purpose of existance

Now that I've completely lost you, I believe that remember the existance of certain events can change you future since future is unpredictable. I have a drawing to explain what I mean. If you wish me to post it just ask. It's using a DNA strand to analyse existance,time, order,space,time line etc, but I warn you that it is really really f*cked up, I'm still surprised I haven't snapped.

Lastly I will say this. Begginings are created from nowhere (null existance), they start a path which has no end, I believe that path can change. And if by somehow there is an end (Armegeddon), there will always be a beggining again. Existance is only the smallest scale of views.

Wow, that's some deep shit.. you know, I've been thinking in VERY strange and extremely advanced nonlogical ways sometimes, but then I tend to get lost cuz I never write it down.. and a bit later I get a little irritated cuz it might have been sumthing I've thought about for a hole day or whatever..

I'm not going to write something long now, cuz I'm very tired and must go to sleep soon, but what I sometimes think about is some deep shit about the meaning of life, existence of universe, dimensions, vibrations in the air, whatever, and in some way I put these stuff together and creates massive theories hehe.. then I too feel a little strange like.. "am I going mad? Shit, I think I have discovered something here!!" Some days later I've forgot the most of it..

I really should start to write down my huge thoughts..

Well, finally, I just want to tell you.. you are not mad for thinking like this, who can really explain how the world can be like it is, what the purpose of existence is, whatever, u know.. just don't get too involved and spend too much time about these things, then u might become a little screwed up in ur mind.. I always feel very strange when thinking about such big stuff..

Cya around.. and btw, lucid dreaming is great for exploring ur inner mind..

Bye..