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Originally posted by loose id
Ok. This may seem irrelevant, but in my own twisted world I think it is a very strong point in this \"debate.\"
Take a piece of paper and cut it lengthwise, leaving about an inch between the scissors and the edge of the paper. You should now have a piece of paper 1 inch wide and 11 inches in length. Take one end and twist it 180 degrees, so the surfaces of each end are facing opposite directions. Tape one end to the other. You should have a ring with a single twist in it.
It looks like a 3 dimensional object. Right?
Draw a line on one side of it, going from one end to the other...
Oh... This object seems to have only one side? Oh dear.
Does that mean we have a 2 dimensional object? Impossible. It could be mapped in all three axises (what's the plural form of axis?), or can it?
It's called a mobius strip, and I assure you, it does not throw the concept of mathematics into disarray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%F6bius_strip
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Originally posted by loose id
Wanna know something interesting? The base ten method of math isn't the only one in existence. The Aztecs (I think) had a 60 base math system, and they created some crazy shit. Someone else I believe had a 3 base system. Math seems so concrete, yet, in actuality, its a language just like any other.
Wanna know something else interesting? Any number in any base system can easily be converted to any other base sytem.
Example: The base 8 representation of 12345 is 30071
If you want to convert to a base system greater than 10, you simply use letters.
Example: The base 11 representation of 61236 is 4200A
That's what we \"logic voodoos\" like to call \"basic algebra\".
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Originally posted by loose id
Language can have its limits. Some languages don't have an \"I\" signifier. Imagine that.
\"It's easy if you try.\"
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Originally posted by loose id
Just do or say what comes naturally and forget about this garbage. Too much time is wasted arguing/debating/fretting/soulsearching/fighting \"religious wars\".
Why can't we have intense threads like this over sex, drugs, and Don Knotts?
Humanity bores me....for obvious reasons. :roll: