(page 19) "Are you afraid of death" Post 471
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Firstly I am confused, you emboldended "objectively virtuous" and replied yes, though you ended the quote on my follow up question. I therefore do not know if you are agreeing that you cannot claim an organism is bad simply based upon the criteria you judge it for regarding a particular task, or if you are agreeing that you can claim something is objectively bad based upon arbitrary criteria.
Yeah, I got mixed-up. I did answer the second point. My bad.
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And the second part of your post does not relate to my point. My apologies, allow me to further elaborate.
In the history of humanity, has a single human being ever decided to be evil?
Can you possibly imagine a scenario where a person has sat down and thought, "Well all those lofty suggestions may seem helpful to people that want to go to that heaven thing that weird dude in a suit was talking about, but I'm just going to serve my own interests instead?"
Everyone I have known who followed Jesus in an extra-ordinary way only did so because they had extra-ordinary experiences. Dry intellect never inspires a human to extraordinary positive deciisions and spiritual service.
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Does justice disappear when the Abrahamic God
(other definitions of God create a tenuous argument though I'm willing to go there if you define the God you believe in)
does not decide for people what morality is?
How could Adam and Eve even cause Original Sin if before they ate from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they had no sense of good and evil?
They broke God's only rule, but how were they even supposed to know there were such things as rules to follow until they took that bite?
How can one choose to follow the rules until one understands that following the rules is good and not following them is bad?
It was actually that magnificent serpent that cleverly crafted the fall into original sin. That beautiful creature was a legless snake that stood tall on his lower body and moved by flipping his lower snake body in a magestic, unimaginanle way. God cursed him to loose that way of moving and wallow on the ground.
Adam may have been millions of years old (having named every animal there was) before God put him to sleep amd made Eve out of his rib.
The highly intelgent, fallen angel, (serpent) knew there was nooooo wayyy he'd trick the ancient Adam into betraying his beloved creator. So he went to work on the new one, Eve.
He knew Adams love for Eve would Damb Him. Adam could not live without Eve. He lost trust in God. And cleaved to his deep love for Eve. God became a distant second in Adams heart.
That's what the fall was about.
All belief systems train us to learn to put love of God above all our other loves.
This reverses the "Fall".
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If you believe in heaven or paradise, then explain how someone ends up in the opposite of such a place.
How can someone be bad?
How is it possible?
Yes, we all know Adolph Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths, but how was he a bad person?