yeah it gets a lot of replies, he knew that
yeah it gets a lot of replies, he knew that
Surely you jest...Quote:
Originally Posted by use4d
None of that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by shark!
That is just pure ignorance. I forgive you but there is one thing I must know, Do you even know about god or are you one of those silly kill the christians groups? Have you read the bible? Please don't smear these lovely message boards with hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by shark!
Well, no need to get all offended. God cannot die. He must first exist to cease to exist ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucid_boy
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I have a question for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucid_boy
have you ever read anything but the bible?
Is that even a question to him? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by paperdoll
I'll lmao if he says "Is there anything else to read but the bible?
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Quickly, I find that many people will use the Bible as a direct reference for their reasoning and morals. Christians alike follow and interpret many of the Bibles passages to support a paramount of ethics. However, there are several problems with this:
Firstly, this is an incontrovertable fact; God himself did not write the Bible. There is no signature from God or any indication that God himself wrote the very words in the Bible. Thusly, if a person did replicate the words from God and wrote them down, then they are not the words of God but the replication and interpretation of Gods words written down by human beings. Further, if you make the step to say that a human's words are just as good as God's - then we must simultaneously accept that humans physical limitations are also evident in God.
Secondly, the Bible has been translated and manipulated many times. Consider that the modern Bible's ommit many passages and books. For example, the Book of Mary Magdalene is not included within any Bible - why? Also, consider that in 325, at the Council of Nicaea, they edited and changed the Bible's contents for modern readers. It was the very purpose of the council. It was again modified in 787. Furthermore, Paul purported his version of the bible that were revealed to him by Jesus - but not Jesus' physical manifest self. Moreover, Saint Jerome translated the Vulgate from Hebrew and Greek.
Thirdly, if you are to reference the Bible for anything, then you must be prepared to accept all of the moral reasoning within the Bible. Consider that in Exodus 21:7 and thereafter, they fervently adhere to the selling of your daughters. Questionable passages from the bible are ubiquitous (ie. a man can rape a woman and merely have to pay 22 sheckle). While people make references to the absurdity of homosexuality, they neglect these certain parts of the Bible.
Thus, if you reference the Bible as the foundational crux of your belief system, there are many objectional arguments which you must be prepared to answer. Namely, the translational problems (keep the telephone-game analogy in mind with this), universal acceptance of the bible, and political implications of the bible.
Just thought I would throw that in there as I do not advocate the bible as any grounds for self-proving arguments. It is just as good as me saying, "I believe Darwin is correct about evolution because the Origin of Species says so."
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The original poster is just a spammer. 'Yall are wastin finger energy.
Yes, i know this. It is funny to see people struggle with these simple facts :lol:.Quote:
Originally Posted by O'nus
Yes, I adore the works of wells and orwell, I have read some pshycology, law, and I am an imense fan of 15-19 century history. I have read several diffrent science texts, nothing to fancy, I fancy myself an begining biologist. I know all there is to know about social insects and this is just the outer fluff in my vast (but not as vast as some) cup of knowledge. I have read hundreds if not thousands of books in my life time. If I were a non-reader would I waste my time with message boards such as these?Quote:
Originally Posted by paperdoll
This "God", or divine, creative, higher entitiy is within us all. So within yourself God can be found. Or allah, Buddha, your Inner Child...etc whichever way you wish to interpret it.
That's why this divine world of Dreams is also within us. Worshipping God is, in my eyes, worshipping the Divine part of your Self. If you have enough Concentration/Faith in Yourself/God then your prayers can indeed be fruitfull for the divine experience called Dreams that very night. Perhaps you may think I am trying to disprove the existance of God by saying "it's all in the head" but I intend to explain quite the contrary: YES it's all in the Head, but NO that doesn't make it any less real, divine or worthy of the title God.
That's my view on this.
This is pretty much the exact thing I say whenever Christians bring up religion. I love their responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by O'nus
I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't go around degrading other's religions, I'm not that rude or disrespectful, but if they have enough pride in their beliefs to tell me that I'm gonig to go to hell, or even trying to get me to go to church, then I should have enough to show my beliefs and why I don't follow theirs.
That is the factual part of why I don't follow. :D
Probably a week ago, some kid starting talking about religion in my Latin class, so I started giving this type of argument...
He said, "Well, I don't remember exactly how, but my preacher was telling me about how you can prove that those really are the words of God and Jesus exactly how they were said, but I don't remember how."
I almost shat myself laughing so hard. I couldn't even begin to control it! :lol::lol::lol::roll::roll::roll::banana:
And besides all that that you've said, why would anybody want to base their ENTIRE life by what a book says (with all that above said), and on what some self-riteous preacher/pope tells you to do. I used to be Christian, so don't say that I'm ignorant or whatever. I've been there.
Wake up people.
Blind sheep being led by the church is all it is.
This is probably one of my favorite things to debate with people on. :D
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^ Christians :lol:
Ow, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephent91
You just bashed religion so hard R. Dawkins feels sorry for them. True, though :D.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seismosaur
i just heard how some people dont want to open their minds...which isnt really news, sadly enough.....but i dont see exactly how he "bashed religion so hard"
If you cannot see, i cannot help. 'Twas a jest, ol' chap. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt5678
He didn't bash religion at all.
He bashed christianity.
And he bashed it darn well.
Christianity happens to be a religion, does it not? And the basis for any new one at least...Quote:
Originally Posted by Carôusoul
Jesus saves.
So does ING Direct.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClouD
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No, only Geico.Quote:
Originally Posted by O'nus
I can really see that becoming a religion. Car insurance. Lmfao.
So basically, we actually have dormant superhuman powers and immortality within all of us?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKA
Gee, that makes me feel a whole lot better about being a tiny, insignificant mammal on a rock in the corner of nowhere.
Why can't you people just accept that we are material beings who will inevitably fail to exist one day? Why must you concoct these complex webs of lies and self-deceit, instead of facing this simple, obvious fact?
General weakness and living in denial. Denial is the first sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegnome54
I refuse to have children until neural science has come far enough that we can install anti-religion programs onto their brains like we can anti-virus programs for our computers.
And for those too far gone, there's always the option of formatting.
I love this thread.
"So does ING Direct" just made my day hahaha.
I didn't bash religion or Christianity. I just believe that religion is bullshit. :D