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I once asked you, in no offense, what you have studied. Hopefully it would illustrate where you have shown interest and what I should emphasize, and/or what I should assume you already know. Often you ask a surprising amount of questions as if you are very new to such topics.
It is beside the point in where you lied about your teachers and where you didn't. I was simply shocked that you had the immaturity to do so at all. Most people would have at least a few teachers and/or religions at the top of their head, whereas you had barely one. And you want to learn? I don't think I'm clear on what you want to learn, and for what purpose.
Don't be an idiot, really. If you do not understand why I fabricated the teachers of mine because of your spiritual arrogance, then you are simply in denial of your own arrogance. I tried to make it obvious that I did not want to mention my teachers because I was under the sincere impression that you would criticize them unless they were of the same teaching as yours.
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As I have said, don't be offended, as I cannot "paint" you anything. Secondly, I did see the contradiction, which I would note now. What is this "adaptive" selective learning business? What "parts" of spirituality do you accept? My perception is that you are in disagreement of other information for the sake a different purpose, right?
See, this is what I mean by you "painting" me; you constantly say shit like me trying to disagree with you on things and that I am desperately trying to argue with you on things when I'M NOT. Why do you do this? Do you crave arguments? This is what I mean by your own ignorance. You claim to have decent arguments but fail to see how they are not applicable to me and yet you still try to perpetually try to apply them to me and find your own reasons. For instance, your first response in this thread was a complete misunderstanding of my intent - competition with religion. Really, you are more blind than you obviously think of yourself.
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I am basically asking you to stop generalizing about me and the forum on account of your own feelings. You will have a problem trying to understand spirituality while negating the spirit; by whatever name.
Is that so? Do you actually want me to dig up all the times you have antagonized people with your spiritual arrogance? Because I can, very easily.
Don't be dumb - pay attention. This is where you ought to go back and read over what was said, but you'll likely just delete it and try to find a reason to argue against me rather than see my point.
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Where to read certain things... hmm. I have occasionally provided re/sources, and have rarely asked of others current body of spiritual knowledge. The questions to oneself are important as the answers may or may not be related to the context in which I am speaking.
You have only provided a vague website that you have already said is a little contributory factor into your beliefs. Perhaps you will consider sharing more to make your beliefs a little more believable than personal meandering.
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That's a horrible analogy. Talking with others holding the intent of refining understandings and solving problems is not equivalent to someone kicking puppies. It is merely your own perception that I am out hurting and being unhelpful; relative to you. You're really complaining for your own frustration, yet hold that everybody would think as you do.
I am pretty sure I have respect for others; even when others disrespect me.
You fail to see my point in the analogy and yet you still demonstrate your vice again.
If I say insult X, it is up to you to be insulted by it, correct? Just like it is up to you to feel upset if I kick a puppy.
If you fail to see the problem in this, then I consider reading spiritual literature or finding a spiritual teacher *Sarcastic condescending yet mocking grin*
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No I think you've said something about that you conclusively want spirituality to be re-contextualised within empiricism or some branch of science. Otherwise, what?
Really? I have said that? Quote me.
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Since what I mainly reference is Advaita, it is already fundamentally True, holding its core in many religious traditions/teachings/teachers as Divinity. If your purpose and reason is to strive for Truth and for Self-Realization (etc), then looking into what I am saying may be useful for you.
Holy shit, a reference from really? Okay, I will examine this thoroughly before making any comments on it because I am ignorant to Advaita.
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Yes. It might be helpful to see the falsifiability of what is false, rather than what is True - as the Truth is unfalsifiable. So essentially, I'd examine the falsifiability of the ego's structure and its opinions.
You obviously have no understanding of falsifiability and it's importance to truth. Truth cannot be true without being falsifiable. Please prove me wrong and demonstrate why this is important? Furthermore, are you able to do this without changing the topic? I truly want you to answer this and get to the point rather than vague anecdotes and deviations from my question because you might find we agree more fundamentally than you think.
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Often it can be used to find happiness, meaning, self-esteem, power, self-control, purpose, well-being and health in ones life. These are not restricted to the spiritual paradigm, however spiritually usually leads one automatically "to" them.
What I would consider to be unique to the spiritual paradigm, is the discovery of Truth as the Ultimate meaning, the Ultimate Reality, Self-identity and Self-Realization as Spirit. This is concerned with radical subjectivity and an inclination to discover ones Truest Identity, to reveal the origins of what is known to be Divine.
I respectfully and most humbly admit that this is something that can only exist in your spirituality because there are no reasons for anyone else outside your own subjectivity to believe in this. As an important note, do you not think that one must begin without any pre-conception of this "truth" and that, in that state of individuality, the individual ought to be able to have some kind of self-actualization, as per Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
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