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Day 17
No results. But not much sleep left to attempt it in after my WBTB.
Attempts: 13; Lucids: 4; FAs: 6 (Venryx: Good idea on splitting off the partial attempts. I'll probably do that when I get the chance.)
The most up-to-date tutorial is here: SSILD Official TutorialQuote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
4 lds 2 from SSILD. I was sick of not getting lucid so I wilded upon initial sleep and got a lucid out of that. And the dream went on with FA after FA, and I just kept trying to WILD. :/ I then RCed and I had finally woken up. :( I think my WILD is more powerful because of that dream though. The other three LDs last night were WILD as well.
I wrote in my DJ at like 4ish and used SSILD with the WBTB. Can't say for sure if it helped, but I remembered my goals and to stabilize after SSILD, so it might have made me more aware in the dream.
You mean you wilded without a WBTB?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrandonBoss
How did you do that? I thought you needed to wait at least 90 minutes for your first REM cycle.
I definitely want to experiment with all the techniques, though. I want to master one, and get good at at least three. (so I can shift them around if my brain gets immune for a while to one of them, i.e. a dry spell)
Well. A lot of people have told me not to do it, but I had to try it. I have gotten it twice. When you go to bed you have to wait about an hour and a half or two hours. You have to really just act like you are normally WILDing. You can move or scratch or anything. You just have to not think about it too much. I use visualization the whole time to keep my mind occupied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Venryx
This method can lead to insomnia since it is hard to figure out how long it has been. So if you have never waited an hour and a half for anything, with nothing but your mind t occupy you, then this may last forever. :P.
I had heard that most people can't do this, but then I looked and saw that most people have done it if they do WILD. Some saw it is "too hard" but the others record a 99% success rate after they know how. That is what attracted me to it.
Nothing last night. A little less sleep than normal. ;)
Last night I tried the SSILD technique for the first time, and had a False Awakening, as soon as I woke up I saw something strange to the end of my bed and confirmed I was indeed dreaming with a reality check, I proceeded to rub my hand, and went outside, it was daytime. I successfully flew and some DC were shouting to me, "WOW YOU GOT SUPER POWER", and lost lucidity, I had for about 3 minutes of lucidity, and I only had like 15 second of lucity maximum before !
Great technique !
How to WILD without WBTB:
Take a 1.5 hour nap of deep dreamless delta sleep, 2-3 hours before going to sleep. Then just WILD at your normal sleep time ;)
You're going directly to REM, thanks to our awesome biological clock.
Have you had success in performing WILD that way?
Quote:
Originally Posted by LetoDK
I suck at WILD really bad, so I wasn't even trying. But it definitely works.
Day 18, 19, 20
No lucids but 4 more FAs, 2 on each of 2 nights, none of which I was lucid in.
Attempts: 16 (or so, still need to split them up by quality); Lucids: 4; FAs: 10
I think my success rate would be higher had I been doing everything correctly from the beginning. Plus right now I still am waking up every 20-80 minutes after every attempt. I think this problem is more or less unique to me. Not sure what is causing this, and the times I became lucid I did so in spite of this, but I think I could more often if the sleep cycle was not interrupted so much. Maybe my awareness is being increased too much causing sleep to end, I don't know.
Anyway, I was thinking of setting an alarm every 90 minutes after WBTB, and any awakenings before the end of 90 minutes I would try to make the most of it so I would hold still and try to DEILD or WILD, since these awakenings I get I often know I am awake before I open my eyes or move. The alarm would be to retrain my mind to stay asleep longer since only then would I move around purposefully to turn off the alarm, notate dreams, and get myself awake enough to finish the cycles.
Any thoughts?
I GOT LUCID!!! I went to bed at my usual time, and I was barely even trying with the ssild technique. I just let my mind drift away, but pulled it back before it went too far. I had a really weird sensation, like I was being pulled into some sort of dark limbo, and I was hearing voices, but I wasn't panicked or anything. I was definitely conscious, cause I noticed when the scene changed to my kitchen. My mom was doing her agenda, as usual, and my sister was sitting on the stairs, complaining. I did a reality check (put my fingers through my palm). At first, they didn't go through, so I thought to myself, "Aw, come on! This is supposed to work." Then I tried again, and they went through!
There was a cracked egg on the counter, and I picked it up to test its weight. It felt real to me. I got excited and told my sister and my mom that they were part of a dream. My mom was all like, "ok", but my sister just glared at me and said, "you're not trying to lucid dream again are you?" I was like, "Hey I wanna show you guys something", and the scenery changed to an open field. I showed them my pet tiger, and my sister started flying. Unfortunately, my subconscious took over and put me in a magic show with my best friend. He said that Sean Bean was putting on a performance. And then things just got weird after that.
Day 21, 22
Nothing.
Day 23
I thought to myself, This is like something that would be in a dream. Later, I woke up. So close!
Day 24
2 lucid dreams in one night! Both very short, but that is a separate issue. Each one came with a FA also, which I was lucid for one. I also think I got some auditory HI during one of the cycles - faint but definitely there. I got too excited and it went away.
Good attempts: 16 (8 more partial); Lucids: 6; FAs: 12; HIs: 1
The last couple of days I have been having less awakenings, so that helps. Plus after the cycles I have been falling asleep to a mantra of 1, I'm dreaming, 2, I'm dreaming, 3, etc. I think this is good because then with the increased awareness from the cycles, I reach the right conclusion.
I will be staying with this for 30 good attempts by the way. Hopefully this thread does not die from being transferred to "Research."
That's excellent Matt! I too hope this transfer does not ruin this thread. :( It took me a while to figure out what happened to the thread and finding it wasn't exactly easy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt1
I hope it doesn't die either. I haven't been posting lately because I've been busy on a programming project.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicIron
Also, CosmicIron, I have a question. I've been noticing the last few days that the subjective noise in my ears, (tinnitus), when things are quiet, I can notice a lot more now than I used to be able to. At first, I was actually trying to enhance this, as a kind of anchor or tool for lucid dreaming. But the last few days it's begun to concern me that maybe it will lead to long-term problems, where I can't get rid of the sound even if I want to. Has this happened to you, and if so, how do you deal with it?
Do not worry about it. It's just a sign that you have become much more sensitive through the training, and you are much more relaxed so you are better at shifting your "focus point". SSILD is especially good at helping us improve this ability. Once you fully master it you may be able to shift into dream world from complete wakefulness within seconds! I have been doing this for more than 20 years and have had tens of thousands of LDs/OBEs, and I'm perfectly healthy... much healthier than most people in my age! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Venryx
And most of them are SSILDs?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicIron
Of course not. SSILD is a very young technique which I developed only two years ago in order to teach a few people to better induce LDs. It is however based on a customized WILD routine of my own, and heavily influenced by the "focus point" model which i discovered many years ago. Nowadays though I almost use SSILD exclusively myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrOMGWTF
Day 25
Another lucid, fairly decent, and three more FAs!
I'll be starting a DJ on this site of my LDs soon, so I'll describe this lucid dream then.
EDIT: And here it is: 10th Lucid Dream
Nights of good attempts: 17 (8 more partial); Lucids: 7; FAs: 15; HIs: 1
Day 26
And another lucid. Account: 11th Lucid Dream
Day 27
No lucids, but I won't say no results. TWO separate dreams I thought to myself 'this might be a dream' or 'this is like a dream,' but I never reality checked. So, so close! In fact one of these was before WBTB in less than 3.5 hours of sleep.
Nights of good attempts: 19 (8 more partial); Lucids: 8; FAs: 15; HIs: 1
Attempt 5
So I did the stuff, right, and I actually did get lucid. It was one of those odd lucid dreams though, where the place that I think I'm sleeping is actually just another part of the dream. It was fun though, I did some meditating n stuff. It was actually a bit easier than in waking life.
Lucid: 1
Strange Occurrence: 1
Day 28, 29
I did get one case of HI, music that faded out when I focused on it. Otherwise, no lucids. My sleep schedule was way off in different ways these two days, though, and I often was too sleepy to concentrate on the cycles well and I was out before I did the mantra after. Therefore I am counting one as a partial attempt only. Gotta wake myself up enough next time.
I did have one nap dream where I used the technique. In it, I saw the details in some wood paneling and wondered if it would be as detailed in a dream. I think we know the answer to that one. So I was pretty close again.
Nights of good attempts: 20 (9 more partial); Lucids: 8; FAs: 15; HIs: 2
A LOT of crazy, vivid dreams last night. One of them was lucid... sort of.
I was in some random person's house trying to fight off these scary lizard monsters that had invaded their basement. We were trying to think of different plans we could use to scare them off, but we almost got killed. So I told myself it was a dream and tried to jump off a bed to see if I could teleport somewhere else. Unfortunately, my subconscious wouldn't allow that, and i just landed on the floor. In the end I managed to get into another dream (not lucid).
Ugh! How do I restrain my subconscious???
Use reality checks that are unlikely to act realistically in a dream. Trying to teleport may work in a dream, and cause lucidity, but it may not. I suggest holding your nose closed and trying to breathe in. I can always inhale in a dream, but make sure you pay attention to the result, because if you don't you may not notice what you did and continue on non-lucid. Make a habit of it in waking life.Quote:
Originally Posted by aquafox12
I've been looking for a technique I could use that would be fairly simple since my main goal right now is to improve my Dream Recall primarily. It seems as if a lot of people have had success with this technique so I figure I would give it a try and record my results as well.
A little background- I've been researching LDing for about 3 weeks now, trying to induce them for 1.5 weeks. I've had 2 DILDs since then, 1 of them while trying to induce. Both were very short and one I could only remember the last half of with mediocre awareness/control. I managed to accidently WILD(or DEILD, not sure) which resulted in a FA that ended when I RCd and realized I was dreaming.
Attempts: 0, FA: 0, LD: 0
Attempts: 1, FA: 1, LD: 0
Hmm, only the second FA i can ever remember having. Interesting.