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      The SSILD test. - 30 days.

      Hey there

      As there is much controversy behind SSILD technique, some say it doesn't work, some say it does work. I do believe it works. Because of this, I want to test this technique. I'll be using it for 30 days. I studied it very well, I hope I'm doing it right.

      I'll be posting results each day, and then sum that up.

      Remember that I'm just one person - everyone is different, the results shouldn't be taken seriously at 100%. It's just a simple test for me.

      I'm starting it tonight - I could start it tomorrow, but I had to wake up early for school and didn't want to lose sleep.
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      Good luck. I'd be interested if it works for you. I never used the technique but it seemed odd.
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      I think i will join you in your test, on the sideline.

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      Cool
      Everyone can join. More participations - better results.

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      I'll be giving it a shot too, starting tonight.

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      I will give it a go as well, been too dormant from lucids for too long haha ill be sure to post results

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      Day 1
      I did the SSILD when I went to bed (because it was always relaxing me a lot) and with WBTB.
      So I did the SSILD when I wen to bed, and I felt so damn good. I didn't want to move anything. And something weird happened. Sometimes I was gaining consciousness out of nothing. Like I was lying there for few minutes without consciousness, and them bam, I'm aware. I had a lot of hypnic jerks. My mind was thinking at it's own, just random thoughts. I was imagining some weird kicks and I had a hypnic jerk then xD. Then I was feeling some really weird feeling: I became aware out of nothing, and started feeling like I was spinning in space. It felt good, I was spinning and falling at medium speed. I was feeling like it sucks me into something. As I realized it, after like 10 seconds it gone away. I don't know what it was lol.
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      I woke up, felt really sleepy. I've drinked a glass of water, I went to toilet, and went back to bed. I did the SSILD 4 times, but it felt a bit different than I was doing it before sleep. I was like more aware. Then it felt like I couldn't fall asleep. I was lying there for like years. But then my alarm ringed
      It was FA, I believe. Well, that's the end.

      Lucids: 0 FAs: 1
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      Nice. That's a good start, DAY 1:
      I had similar results. As I laid there I began watching the different colors behind my eye lids and then started hearing a sort of buzzing sound and felt slight vibrations. As I continued to repeat the steps I began doing them all at once and started to get that spinning/falling feeling mromgwtf experienced(I have experienced this feeling many times a lot of times right after I lay down.) I kept repeating the steps until I was basically doing them subconsciously until I fell asleep. It did not induce a lucid dream however, I had a fairly vivid dream considering I haven't been able to have much success with recall lately(on behalf of my laziness lol). But I feel it's a good start and by the end of the month I will induce more than one lucid from this method. Good luck to the rest, ill be posting more results tomorrow

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      Day 1
      I tried the SSILD while laying in my bed at bedtime because it relaxes me and makes me fall asleep more quickly. I usually have troubles falling asleep due to my body's tendency to keep on moving, but relaxation usually calms me down. I woke up after about 5 hours and kept my body still and eyes closed because I was just too sleepy to wake up for a bit. I did the SSILD technique again and after one repetition my mind starting drifting away to random thoughts. It felt like I was on a swing going pretty fast, and I kind of liked it. I regained control and then I was upset because I didn't want the swinging to stop. These swinging sensations, along with accelerating or bouncing sensations, happen to me rarely. I fell asleep and had a fairly clear dream that I remember (not lucid), and those don't happen often. Next time I'll try to get up and then do the SSILD instead of staying still on my bed.

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      Day 1
      I also tried SSILD while going to bed, and let me say, if nothing else, this technique is GREAT to make yourself fall asleep quickly.
      While i had no success at bedtime, i woke up about 5 hours into sleep. I went to the bathroom, drank some water and returned to the sheets.
      After what felt like 5-6 reps, i think i dosed off, suddenly finding myself wide awake again... Only this time, i could not fall asleep (dream).
      I felt like i was laying there for 40 min and then, I was suddenly jolted awake 2 hours later (real time).

      I feel bad for getting tricked like that. :'(



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      I feel like SSILD is great for the way I wake up after every REM cycle. I often forger to do it though. It helps me gain awareness with each waking. It is supposed to help all forms of LD right? It seems to me to increase my DILD like crazy. I have been using it for 3 months with promising results when I remember. I would recommend it as an addition to things like meditation and normal DILDs.

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      I also hope this technique will bring forth some DILD's for me, since i have only ever had lucids during a nap, and i would really like to 1: have lucids more frequently and 2: experience what it is like (if it is any different) having a lucid during normal sleep.

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      Shoot for lucids in the 6th and 7th hour at first. Wake up at those times and SSILD. That seems to help me.

      But! I had an LD last night at like 130 after only two hours and a half of sleep, and it was really good.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Buhl View Post
      Day 1
      I also tried SSILD while going to bed, and let me say, if nothing else, this technique is GREAT to make yourself fall asleep quickly.
      While i had no success at bedtime, i woke up about 5 hours into sleep. I went to the bathroom, drank some water and returned to the sheets.
      After what felt like 5-6 reps, i think i dosed off, suddenly finding myself wide awake again... Only this time, i could not fall asleep (dream).
      I felt like i was laying there for 40 min and then, I was suddenly jolted awake 2 hours later (real time).

      I feel bad for getting tricked like that. :'(

      So you had a FA?

      I had it too

      If we practice SSILD, we have to know how to detect FAs, because there will be TONS of them.
      Last edited by MrOMGWTF; 01-04-2013 at 09:07 PM. Reason: forgot to quote
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      Yea i had one. I think i will edit my post to include count like yours, just so we can sum up at the end. It would be interesting to know just how many FA's we will induce trying this.
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      Day 2
      Not much to say. Few cool things happened though. First was that when I was doing the SSILD, it felt like I was doing it for hour. The 4 series took SO LONG to complete I don't even. I think I felt asleep after second repetition, and then woke up a bit. I don't clearly remember any FAs, but again, I had trouble falling asleep, which could be FA. I think I did the RC and it failed, when I couldn't fall asleep. I think I woke up then. I remember also that I woke up and I heard high pitched noise. It synthesised it so you can hear what I'm talking about. It wasn't loud, it was calm, and soft to my ears. I started concentrating on that noise, but as I concentrated on it, it went away.

      Here's the high pitch thing: Zippyshare.com - hi pitch.mp3

      Lucids: 0 FAs: 1

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      Not much to say. Few cool things happened though. First was that when I was doing the SSILD, it felt like I was doing it for hour. The 4 series took SO LONG to complete I don't even. I think I felt asleep after second repetition, and then woke up a bit. I don't clearly remember any FAs, but again, I had trouble falling asleep, which could be FA. I think I did the RC and it failed, when I couldn't fall asleep. I think I woke up then. I remember also that I woke up and I heard high pitched noise. It synthesised it so you can hear what I'm talking about. It wasn't loud, it was calm, and soft to my ears. I started concentrating on that noise, but as I concentrated on it, it went away.

      Here's the high pitch thing: Zippyshare.com - hi pitch.mp3

      Lucids: 0 FAs: 1

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      Day 1

      I'm also going to be trying this over the next 30 days. (very neat that there are so many of us doing it at once)

      I tried it this morning, after getting up for about an hour after 5 hours of sleep.

      I didn't have a lucid dream, but I was astounded by how quickly and how deeply it brought about relaxation. In a matter of minutes my body felt ready for sleep. This usually takes about half an hour, but it happened today in less than 10 minutes.

      I continued to use it for the next three hours, on and off with just falling asleep, and letting my mind wander. I fell asleep and then woke up again a few times. During this 3 hour period, multiple times I felt very sudden sensations in my hands and feet, like that of when you're entering a lucid dream using WILD. They came too unexpectedly for me to not become wide awake again, but I remember it felt like my hand had suddenly had a gust of wind lift it up, for a split second, and then the sensation disappeared when I shifted my focus to it.

      I also found it extremely difficult, when performing this technique, to keep my mind from wandering. I would literally be lying there, starting the "stare at the darkness behind your eyelids" step, and within 10 seconds my mind will have wandered to some ridiculous, arbitrary concept, and then I'd snap back to going on to the next step, "listen to the noises in your ears", and then start it, thinking how crazily fast I lost my train of thought, and within 10 seconds I would snap back with another ridiculous thought or phrase in my mind. It was so insane, that I started counting how many times this happened in a row, and it was over 10 times. I was blown away by how little I controlled my focus. (note that I probably could have maintained my awareness by repeating a mantra, but I didn't want to, because that would most likely disrupt the relaxation effects)

      Anyway, it's a very good way to relax, and I'll continue to try it, to see how it works for lucid dreaming.

      Attempts: 1, Lucids: 0, FAs: 0
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      Oh also, I had what might have been a false awakening, I'm not really sure anymore. I remembering thinking, "other people have said they have false awakenings with this, so I better make sure". (I had been lying in bed for quite a while) So I did a reality check, it turned up negative, so just to see what time it was I looked down at the clock, and it read, "1:15".

      Skip ahead a long while. I sit up and do a reality check, in the same way, and look down to see what time it is. It says, "1:27", and immediately I'm suspicious because it felt much, much longer than 12 minutes, it felt more like 45 minutes, having fallen asleep and such in between. I look away, and then back, and then away and then back, and then away and then back, and it remains the same, so I know I'm not dreaming. But then it really makes me wonder if the earlier check had been a false awakening. I don't think it was, since my reality check was negative, but I'm not that sure anymore, because I have had false RC results before. So anyway, just putting that out there: be very attentive when you do your reality checks. If that was indeed a false awakening, you may be surprised at how realistic it is.
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      Oh, also something I noticed upon one awakening was a very loud and distinct sound of a helicopter right above our house, at some point. This sort of thing has happened before, and I'm not sure how it happens, because it bleeds over like 5 seconds into real life! (I do reality checks, that show I'm awake, while the helicopter sound is fading, but is still being heard, distinctly. I'd say it is a false awakening, except I know it's not, at least not always, because I literally get up after this and get on with the day)
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      I think I'll try this at the end of the week.

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      Day 2
      I woke up after 6 hours of sleep and i simply couldn't do these repetitions.
      It only took a couple of seconds before i would lose focus and drift into random nonsense thoughts which suddenly led me to regain counsciousness and start over. After trying for what seemed like an hour i drifted off to sleep.
      I do have a faint memory of waking up and reading in my journal which i think could be a FA, but for the sake of this test, i will not include FAs without a clear memory of it happening.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Buhl View Post
      Day 2
      I woke up after 6 hours of sleep and i simply couldn't do these repetitions.
      It only took a couple of seconds before i would lose focus and drift into random nonsense thoughts which suddenly led me to regain counsciousness and start over. After trying for what seemed like an hour i drifted off to sleep.
      I do have a faint memory of waking up and reading in my journal which i think could be a FA, but for the sake of this test, i will not include FAs without a clear memory of it happening.

      Lucids: 0 FAs: 1
      You should get out of the bed, go to bathroom, drink a glass of water, read a book until you can read it easily, then do the SSILD. Imma going for day 3 !
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      Cool results so far seems like we're all making good progress.
      DAY 2:
      After getting out of work I was really tired so it wasn't too hard fall asleep. I laid down and manage to get maybe 2 or 3 repetitions before I drifted off to sleep, didn't have a chance for WBTB part this time, but I did have 2 very long vivid dreams. Which is definitely a good sign(basically redirecting my dream recall very fast.) I will try again tonight with a WBTB thrown in.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ryman View Post
      Cool results so far seems like we're all making good progress.
      DAY 2:
      After getting out of work I was really tired so it wasn't too hard fall asleep. I laid down and manage to get maybe 2 or 3 repetitions before I drifted off to sleep, didn't have a chance for WBTB part this time, but I did have 2 very long vivid dreams. Which is definitely a good sign(basically redirecting my dream recall very fast.) I will try again tonight with a WBTB thrown in.
      1. The best time to practice is after 4 or 5 hours of sleep. You could also combine the practice with WBTB for maximum effect but it is not required. DO NOT do this at the start of your sleep -- it will NOT work!
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      Day 2

      Tried again, no lucids. I should note, though, that I remember far more of my dreams last night than I usually do. I remember like 5 different segments, when I usually only remember 1 or 2. This could just be because I'm trying a new technique, and so am more attentive, but it also could be because of the technique itself. This will be easier to see as we continue testing it.

      Attempts: 2, Lucids: 0, FAs: 0
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      Quote Originally Posted by MrOMGWTF View Post
      Yeah
      I do it at the start of my sleep to keep me thinking about it before i go to sleep, also it helps me fall asleep faster.

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