RC + alarm DEILD experiment: would you join me ?

Whoa, this was weird.. A few days before, I was a bit frustrated because I felt I wasn't putting enough effort into staying conscious when I hear the alarm. It's just very confusing, very low awareness a lot of the times, and you forget what to do and fall back asleep really quickly, I suspect this is because of hitting the wrong sleep spot, missing the REM period.

So I insisted on trying harder to maintain awareness, this morning as soon as I heard the alarm I began chanting my mantra and within seconds my whole body began buzzing, you know, one of the typical things before a WILD. Except this time it lasted like a whole minute instead of a few seconds like it usually does. It kept decreasing and increasing in intensity and while it was happening I got some.. I don't even know what you would call them, dream snippets? Of some people talking about.. deep, spiritual things. Meanwhile, due to the vibrations, I was beginning to lose feeling of where my body ends and the things around it begin.. Odd. I don't understand why I couldn't enter a dream this time though, perhaps I wasn't assertive enough? I was kinda fascinated by how long the vibrations are lasting, and also I think my eyes were fluttering a bit, about to open, I was afraid that if I try to see, I'll wake up instead of see what dream I am in.

Btw, VagalTone let me know if you want me to stop spamming here, lol, because I know I'm not qualified for the experiment, so I wouldn't wanna spam with unqualified experiences. Also, how is it going for you guys, any more successes?

Great to hear your adventures mimi, bring them on!
The last few days i have been sleeping with friends and didnt use it and so i have to reset my experiment(which probably is an important bias). Anyways, the night just before my hostel check in, i had an interesting dream. I was being anesthesised in the dream and i was kind of reluctant. Everytime i felt i was going to fall into anesthesia, i kept waking up. Then, eventually i surrendered and let the anesthesia knock me down but i felt like i entered conscious deep sleep from a nonlucid dream, and i stayed in this state a while. Very close to sleep paralysis.

Just to tell you guys that from now on, i will restart my experiment but with my alarm off and just use whatever natural methods i can...lol

DEILD deserves a good committed try, and now it's time to throw the alarm help away...let's do it !

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Originally Posted by VagalTone

Just to tell you guys that from now on, i will restart my experiment but with my alarm off and just use whatever natural methods i can...lol

DEILD deserves a good committed try, and now it's time to throw the alarm help away...let's do it !

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Haha, so pretty much Raduga's technique huh? Nice. You should add a short WBTB if you want, to refresh and strengthen your intention of waking up and DEILDing. Good luck, I'm gonna keep trying with the alarm for a while longer and if it doesn't get easier soon, I'll also go back to natural, as I was doing before with Raduga's technique.

Not pretty much Raduga's because i will use the recall last image technique to DEILD and not to initiate an OBE.
I have the suspicion that if one can get used to natural DEILD it will then become kind of automatic, let's see..

That is, instead of getting used to recall the last dream in detail, one tries to recall only the last image. Maybe that becomes an habit too

Good luck, i think the alarm has its own benefits, specially for recall.

If coupled with a long WBTB is a very good shot too - but

I see. I agree, DEILD skill can be trained like any other skill, it just takes practice and the clear intention of waking up.

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i think the alarm has its own benefits, specially for recall.

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@.@ I wish that was the case, these alarms have been wrecking my recall.

[QUOTE=mimihigurashi;2152222]I see. I agree, DEILD skill can be trained like any other skill, it just takes practice and the clear intention of waking up.

@.@ I wish that was the case, these alarms have been wrecking my recall.[/QUOTE]

Ohh ! I thought that was a universal benefit. What kind of alarm do you use? I use « this is a dream» record - so maybe this is helping my mind to remember to recall the dream

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Originally Posted by mimihigurashi

I see. I agree, DEILD skill can be trained like any other skill, it just takes practice and the clear intention of waking up.

@.@ I wish that was the case, these alarms have been wrecking my recall.[/QUOTE]

Ohh ! I thought that was a universal benefit. What kind of alarm do you use? I use « this is a dream» record - so maybe this is helping my mind to remember to recall the dream

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My recall might be suffering because I quickly fall asleep multiple times, I don't stop and remember my dreams before falling asleep. Frankly my alarm is not far from yours, but again it differs from one person to another. Still, looking forward to what we can do without alarms, hope it won't be a disaster, lol.

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Originally Posted by mimihigurashi

Whoa, this was weird.. A few days before, I was a bit frustrated because I felt I wasn't putting enough effort into staying conscious when I hear the alarm. It's just very confusing, very low awareness a lot of the times, and you forget what to do and fall back asleep really quickly, I suspect this is because of hitting the wrong sleep spot, missing the REM period.

So I insisted on trying harder to maintain awareness, this morning as soon as I heard the alarm I began chanting my mantra and within seconds my whole body began buzzing, you know, one of the typical things before a WILD. Except this time it lasted like a whole minute instead of a few seconds like it usually does. It kept decreasing and increasing in intensity and while it was happening I got some.. I don't even know what you would call them, dream snippets? Of some people talking about.. deep, spiritual things. Meanwhile, due to the vibrations, I was beginning to lose feeling of where my body ends and the things around it begin.. Odd. I don't understand why I couldn't enter a dream this time though, perhaps I wasn't assertive enough? I was kinda fascinated by how long the vibrations are lasting, and also I think my eyes were fluttering a bit, about to open, I was afraid that if I try to see, I'll wake up instead of see what dream I am in.

Btw, VagalTone let me know if you want me to stop spamming here, lol, because I know I'm not qualified for the experiment, so I wouldn't wanna spam with unqualified experiences. Also, how is it going for you guys, any more successes?

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Important: Once the vibrations begin, wait about 5 seconds and then get out of bed! You will always be in an OBE. Ive had this happen dozens of times. Dont wait for the vibrations to end. Once they begin then thats your cue to seperate from your stencil body - trust me on this one!

Ezzo

Ok everyone. this my my opinion ... I have experience with this. Within a few months from now, the amazing Arora headband will be launched after years in development. Using EEG and other magic algorithmns it detects when you are in REM accurately and the sends light / audio cues to the dreamer.

Now the main objective is to intergrate these cues into your dream and become lucid if you reality check any flashing lights in your dream

However ..... I will be using mine specifically as a DIELD alarm. No more trying to hit REM randomly with alarms, this device will ONLY rouse you from sleep when your in a dream and once you have the light flash settings perfected, you will have the perfect DEILD deveice.

Ezzo is excited! :-D

Found this interesting article about the use of snooze alarms.

https://braindecoder.com/post/to-ach...ton-1487020701

Another funny way to enhance DEILD is to have a bed that makes little noises when you move your body in it (and therefore signal that you maybe just moved out of REM paralysis), which can remember you to stay quiet and DEILD

Merry Christhmas everyone !