The 90 Days WILD Project

STRANGE

Okay, i tried to NSSWILD last night, and something strange happen. I was playing with a soccer in my mind, but then random thoughts came to mind, and Im like SHOOT!! i need to concentrate harder, and started playing with the ball in my mind again. (take note that i havent changed position yet). I eventually started falling asleep when suddenly I heard a loud loud noise (kind of when you put on your earphones and press Play and you have all the volume up! and your like crap the volume!), it scared the hell out of me:panic:. then I opened my eyes to see what was happening but everything was normal. I am guessing that i had HSs, and it is the second time.
Has anyone ever experienced something similar??
If I had paid closer attention to sound, could i had entered SP


This has nothing to do with the above topic.
I was having a really funny dream(i didnt become lucid), and when it ended i found myself actually laughing in my bed:lol:. I found that interesting.

@speedoman: That sounds like hh (hynogogic hallucinations) to me. You were probably right at the edge of sp or an ld. Sometimes loud, sudden sounds can come along with hh. Sounds like you almost had it. I bet you'll get it tonight. You have to try not to let anything surprise you. Hypnogogic hallucinations could be anything from visual, audio, and tactile. Even smell and taste can be involved, but i don't think it is very common.

Day 45:

No attempt. I had to get up early to go to work and my dad was going to be up making noise again. But now, i have some foam earplugs. I'm definitely going to try my best tonight now that i have something that should be comfortable. Going with another attempt at the NSSWILD.

Days 36-45: Nothing.

Meh.

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Originally Posted by speedoman

STRANGE

Okay, i tried to NSSWILD last night, and something strange happen. I was playing with a soccer in my mind, but then random thoughts came to mind, and Im like SHOOT!! i need to concentrate harder, and started playing with the ball in my mind again. (take note that i havent changed position yet). I eventually started falling asleep when suddenly I heard a loud loud noise (kind of when you put on your earphones and press Play and you have all the volume up! and your like crap the volume!), it scared the hell out of me:panic:. then I opened my eyes to see what was happening but everything was normal. I am guessing that i had HSs, and it is the second time.
Has anyone ever experienced something similar??
If I had paid closer attention to sound, could i had entered SP


This has nothing to do with the above topic.
I was having a really funny dream(i didnt become lucid), and when it ended i found myself actually laughing in my bed:lol:. I found that interesting.

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It might have been HS, a form of HH, but it might also have been exploding head syndrome. I had a similar experience once and it scared the hell out me, it happened to me the first time I tried to WILD.

Day 46: failed.

For the past 5 or 6 days I have been too lazy to get out of bed to WILD, we all know that can only end in failure. Tomorrow morning I will get out of bed.

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Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow

@speedoman: That sounds like hh (hynogogic hallucinations) to me. You were probably right at the edge of sp or an ld. Sometimes loud, sudden sounds can come along with hh. Sounds like you almost had it. I bet you'll get it tonight. You have to try not to let anything surprise you. Hypnogogic hallucinations could be anything from visual, audio, and tactile. Even smell and taste can be involved, but i don't think it is very common.

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Originally Posted by AndresLD

It might have been HS, a form of HH, but it might also have been exploding head syndrome. I had a similar experience once and it scared the hell out me, it happened to me the first time I tried to WILD.

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@dark_grimmjow: Thanks, and yeah I deffinitely have to try harder no to let anything surprise me:shock:. I hopefully will get it to night.

@AndresLD: I didnt now that what you and me have experienced has a specific term "Exploding Head Symdrome", thanks for the term!, And yeah it really makes you jump!:panic:

Another failure for me.:panic:
Woke up at 5:00 AM and after using the bathroom and a bit of stretching went back to bed. I had a terrible muscle ache but I've reached SP (it felt differently this time like being in refrigerator) ,after that guess what...fell asleep:pissed:

Day 5: FIRST SUCCESS

I woke up naturally after a fairly intense dream, 5 hours into sleep. I went to the bathroom without turning the lights on, and after a couple of minutes I went back to bed. I started out with the 61 point relaxation technique lying on my back. It went pretty ok, although it certainly did require some effort to shift my attention through all the 61 points. When I was done, I felt very relaxed and quite alert at the same time. All I did now was being a passive observer. I had taked position in the watchtower of my mind.

After 10 minutes not much had happened, so I switched position to my side, as suggested in Yoshis WILD-tutorial. I waited there for 10 minutes, but nothing happend, so I switched to a semi-side position, where I stayed for the rest of my WILD attempt. The first thing I know, 10 minutes later, is that I'm lucid, on a bus.

I don't know really what happened. I think I sort of went unconscious for a little while as I fell asleep, and then as a dream formed I automatically became conscious again.

Then I had a pretty cool lucid. I woke up a couple of minutes later. I laid still and was firmly focused on lucidity. Next thing I know I was in another dream. The same thing happened as before; a short span of unconsciousness as I fell asleep followed by immediate full lucidity. Pretty weird. Sort of a combination of MILD and WILD it felt like. This continued throughout the rest of my morning and I was lucid in every single dream (there was 4 in total). It was pretty amazing. The sickest lucid was when I was in a winter landscape at the evening looking at a blue illuminated city, and I could turn the lights on and off by will. Incredibly vivid. All I did in that dream was to be amazed by the details.

I hope to have more success in the future, I'll keep you posted :)

@BohmaN: Congrats! it's nice to finally see someone succeeding in here :D!

Day 47: slept through my alarm :(

I'll put my alarm somewhere I have to stand up to turn it off, that way I WILL wake up and I WILL get out of bed.

Day 46 & 47:

Failure

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Originally Posted by BohmaN

Day 5: FIRST SUCCESS

I woke up naturally after a fairly intense dream, 5 hours into sleep. I went to the bathroom without turning the lights on, and after a couple of minutes I went back to bed. I started out with the 61 point relaxation technique lying on my back. It went pretty ok, although it certainly did require some effort to shift my attention through all the 61 points. When I was done, I felt very relaxed and quite alert at the same time. All I did now was being a passive observer. I had taked position in the watchtower of my mind.

After 10 minutes not much had happened, so I switched position to my side, as suggested in Yoshis WILD-tutorial. I waited there for 10 minutes, but nothing happend, so I switched to a semi-side position, where I stayed for the rest of my WILD attempt. The first thing I know, 10 minutes later, is that I'm lucid, on a bus.

I don't know really what happened. I think I sort of went unconscious for a little while as I fell asleep, and then as a dream formed I automatically became conscious again.

Then I had a pretty cool lucid. I woke up a couple of minutes later. I laid still and was firmly focused on lucidity. Next thing I know I was in another dream. The same thing happened as before; a short span of unconsciousness as I fell asleep followed by immediate full lucidity. Pretty weird. Sort of a combination of MILD and WILD it felt like. This continued throughout the rest of my morning and I was lucid in every single dream (there was 4 in total). It was pretty amazing. The sickest lucid was when I was in a winter landscape at the evening looking at a blue illuminated city, and I could turn the lights on and off by will. Incredibly vivid. All I did in that dream was to be amazed by the details.

I hope to have more success in the future, I'll keep you posted :)

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congrats! :banana:

Congrats BohmaN! Like edge said, it's nice to see somebody get a success on this project.

Day 46:

I didn't attempt this time. I went to bed too late and woke up too late. I woke up right at sunrise. I was going to try WILD, but as soon as i opened my eyes and glanced at the window; the sun came up over the trees, and it was like someone shot a solar flare off in my eyes. I did try my new foam earplugs, which worked very well and were comfortable. I might say that the earplugs worked too well. I've slept with earplugs before and i'll hear my alarm, wake up, and have it turned off within the first 3 or 4 seconds of my alarm going off. Either i was really tired or these earplugs really worked too well. My sister had to come wake me up this time. My alarm had gone off for 5 minutes straight and i never heard it. It could have been a fluke, but it looks like i'm going to have to do some alarm adjustments now.

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Originally Posted by BohmaN

Day 5: FIRST SUCCESS

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Congratulations BohmaN:)
It always makes me more motivated when I read that someone was successfull!!! Keep it up dreamers!:D

Day 6

Unsuccessful. Didn't get out of bed and had trouble completing the 61 point relaxation technique due to heavy tiredness. Nedless to say, I fell asleep. Next time, I shall get out of bed.

Success rate: 1/6

Day 48: didn't get much sleep, woke up every hour because of a sore throat.

:shock::shock:Finally we have a success here, great job BohmaN!:bravo:

Unfortunately i wasn't that lucky.:(
I woke up at 3:30 AM cause i thought that perhaps earlier will get me that LD.
What a mistake!:panic: I was sooo tired and not only able to WILD but i couldn't fall asleep:bang:. Finally after an hour or so of struggling i fell asleep.
I'm not sure how exactly to time my attempt:confused:
Is that 5 hrs or 4 or what??? Could someone write the periods of time when REM occurs?

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Could someone write the periods of time when REM occurs?

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After 4,5, 6 and 7,5 hours of sleep, lasting about 60 minutes each, and they become longer the longer you have slept.

Waking up at 5 hours of sleep will get you right in the middle of the first REM period. That's nice.

Day 47:

Not sure what happened. But i failed. I don't know if i'll try for a WILD tonight or not. I've been cutting trees with my dad all day; so i'm pretty wiped out right now. I'll just have to see how tired i am when i wake up during the night.

Day 7:

Woke up naturally after a bit more than 4 hours of sleep. I went to the bathroom and returned to bed within a minute. Did the relaxation technique but it was damn hard to stay focused. I lost it.

4 hours is too little, alternatively, 1 minute awake is too little. Further experimentation required.

Sorry about the delay folks, here's my logs, though I still haven't had success. I have spring break this week, and am not busy all week, so I'll be doing extensive reading of ETWOLD, as well as seeing what I can do to progress in WILDing. I've strayed a little, even from my last logs, but my reading has brought me more knowledge and insights into what must be done to ensure I'm preparing myself for correct WILDing - right now, I know I'm trying to get relaxed in a very non-directed manner, which is making it difficult to focus and stay concentrated.

Day 42: 3.5.10: (Early morning) WBTB time! Up at 5:50AM.
Results: Unsuccessful, but after taking time to lengthen my WBTB, I was able to attain SP while conscious, though I fell asleep before HH occurred. Pinpointed that problem!
Day 43: 3.6.10: (Morning) Couldn't WBTB this morning, only got <4.5 hours resting sleep prior.
Day 44 & 45: 3.7.10 - 3.8.10: At band practice; no attempts.
Day 46: 3.9.10: (Morning) Made two attempts last night at different times after waking to log dreams. I've confirmed the necessity for a diligent WBTB that involves more than just being awake for a while. My body needs to be woken by movement outside of my bed to ensure a proper WBTB for myself.

Currently looking over the 61-point relaxation technique, and others.

I would love to join in if it's still possible. I've been trying to WILD the last 1-2weeks and although, I have had a similar problem to most here(falling asleep after putting alarm off), I have experienced some symptoms such as seeing colors moving around, numbness, not feeling body parts(hands), seeing some scene, etc.... and these were mostly when I first went to bed. What I plan to do is a combination of Yoshi's and OLouie's techniques along with an extra step or two from my own :)

For anyone interested, I plan to do the following in this order:
a) Go to sleep with the mantra "I will have a lucid dream tonight" or "I'm recognize I'm dreaming and become lucid", etc....
b) Wake up 5hr-5.5hr after falling asleep thus between REM periods.
c) Get up for a couple of minutes and just stress my legs, hands to make sure that I won't be sore.
d) Back in bed, do the reverse blinking technique.
e) Do the body relaxation technique and 61 point relaxation technique.
f) After relaxing, create some image and play with it, mostly to help keep you awake and initiate some HI.
g) Stay aware during this and hope for the best.
h) Optional: Could add another alarm to go off 1hr later, so, that if I fall asleep, I could try WILDing again :D
I find this method incorporates a couple of good points. First, by using a mantra, I am affirming that I will become lucid and believing so will only help my cause. I mean it's gonna have to happen sometime :P Second, doing a WBTB will increase my chance of succeeding when doing a WILD. Third, if I fail the WILD, then I'll get another chance due to my second alarm. Fourth, even if I fail my WILDs both times, I can still get a DILD because I've been RCing during the day using Naiya's method and have been using a mantra before sleeping :D

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Originally Posted by edge0125

Dude i think you were lucid

That weird spinning feeling, that's what i was talking about a while back. When you get to that point, you're pretty much in a dream state.

I remember on day 10 the exact same thing happened to me. And i made a mental note that if it happens again i'll just stand up and do a reality check.
Then on day 15 i got that same weird feeling all over my body, it was like a weird spinning sensation. I then did my RC And boom success!

I think we really need to pay attention to false awakening. IMO after you get hh, then you're extremely close if not lucid already.

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Interesting. I've had the spinning feeling multiple times before, in some cases, I was just sitting on the ground at home with my eyes closed and I experienced myself spinning really fast :P

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Originally Posted by tommo

IMO you shouldn't be trying all these different techniques.
Just do a simple WBTB WILD. That's my opinion though.
I just think that it would be better to practice one technique.
It's not like a simple WBTB WILD isn't going to work for some people.
It WILL work, for everyone, you just have to practice.

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Agree, too many different techniques wouldn't help. Stick to one technique and try really hard then move on the next one after 2 weeks or so provided you haven't seen any success with it.

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Originally Posted by speedoman

Thanks Andres! It is interesting because most of the tutarials that i have read say that it is very important to stay still while attempting a WILD to trick your body that you have fallen asleep, and it seems that it is different for you.

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KingYoshi's technique says otherwise. What is important is to move but don't think about it :)

Day 49: got up at 4:30, had a glass of water, took a sinutab (I have a cold right now), went back to bed and tried NSSWILD, but I fell asleep at the stage where you have to imagine an object and play with it. I think I will have to wake myself more, maybe I'll do some push ups and sit ups before going back to bed.

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Originally Posted by BigFan

I would love to join in if it's still possible. I've been trying to WILD the last 1-2weeks and although, I have had a similar problem to most here(falling asleep after putting alarm off), I have experienced some symptoms such as seeing colors moving around, numbness, not feeling body parts(hands), seeing some scene, etc.... and these were mostly when I first went to bed. What I plan to do is a combination of Yoshi's and OLouie's techniques along with an extra step or two from my own :)

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Certainly you can still join! It's open to anyone, just keep on top of your attempts and don't get discouraged, never even once. :)

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Originally Posted by BigFan

KingYoshi's technique says otherwise. What is important is to move but don't think about it :)

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Wait, how do you propose you get to sleep if you keep moving about? :cheeky: You're almost right in your statement there: the important thing is to not get disheartened by lying awake for so long and then fail at WILDing, and Yoshi's method suggests that a way to fight it is by moving every now and then to a different position, and holding that position until your sleep paralysis takes over your body. The key is still to stay still, Yoshi's method just does it a little differently than the average person does it. Good luck all the same if you're trying his method. :)

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Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Certainly you can still join! It's open to anyone, just keep on top of your attempts and don't get discouraged, never even once. :)

Wait, how do you propose you get to sleep if you keep moving about? :cheeky: You're almost right in your statement there: the important thing is to not get disheartened by lying awake for so long and then fail at WILDing, and Yoshi's method suggests that a way to fight it is by moving every now and then to a different position, and holding that position until your sleep paralysis takes over your body. The key is still to stay still, Yoshi's method just does it a little differently than the average person does it. Good luck all the same if you're trying his method. :)

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I doubt I will get discouraged :cheeky: As for the getting to sleep, it would be every 10min or so :)

Day 48 (?): Nothing.

Good on ya Bohman! Only your 5th day too!