The cosmological redshift necessarily relates to how these observations are possible.

How are telescopic/astronomical observations fundamentally possible? What of the blackness and constitution of outer space in relation to these observations?

It occurs to me that the cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift in keeping with making space more invisible and more visible, on balance. Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance involves an inherent and fundamental stability of space and inertial/gravitational/electromagnetic energy. The fundamental equivalency of inertia and gravity has to be at work here.

Gravity increases as space becomes increasingly invisible. On balance, objects are increasingly magnified or larger. Notice the large size of the Earth/ground in keeping with the fact that the space that it borders is the most invisible. Now consider that an object that we would drop gets smaller as it accelerates towards the Earth/ground. Now, the setting sun does involve a magnification/increase in its relative size and a flattening/contraction and stretching/expansion of the adjoining space which involves increasing transparency/invisibility. (Outer space is flat.) Is this not a telescoping effect?

Consider that the actual/real/direct experience of outer space as it is destroys and precludes our being, thought, and experience (including visual experience).

The fundamental, ultimate, and true equivalency and balancing of inertia and gravity involves visible and invisible space in fundamental balance and equilibrium.

The fundamental, ultimate, and true equivalency and balancing of inertia, electromagnetism, and gravity involves visible and invisible space in fundamental balance and equilibrium. This has significant applicability here.

man, thats some good acid

The energy/brightness is reduced by the space becoming more invisible. Also, gravity involves pressure; and gravity also involves energy (of course).
Think about it please.

Importantly, for the proper and complete understanding of this very important thread, please also see the thread: "Why dream experience is fundamental and so very important" under Extended Discussion. Thanks.

The Earth is also a larger object/observation within a smaller space (relatively, that is). Full gravity is full distance in/of space, right? Electromagnetism, inertia, and gravity are all fundamentally related, right?

Consider the reduction in peripheral vision/visual experience very carefully.

Notice the variable depth/distance of the astronomical observations. The space is contracted/flattened and stretched/expanded. The Sun involves enormous pressure. Think about it please. The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

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The Earth is also a larger object/observation within a smaller space (relatively, that is). Full gravity is full distance in/of space, right? Electromagnetism, inertia, and gravity are all fundamentally related, right?

Consider the reduction in peripheral vision/visual experience very carefully.

Notice the variable depth/distance of the astronomical observations. The space is contracted/flattened and stretched/expanded. The Sun involves enormous pressure. Think about it please. The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

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Makes sense to me

Kind of. I can quote the sentences i do not understand, if that is what you like?

What I do understand is ur question of Electromagnetism inertia and gravity. The answer is yes, they are related. I would say so.
I understand that what you are saying is that the redshift is a gravitational shift. Time is a function of gravitational waves. Both theories are correct. I suspect that scientific theories will come soon.

Time is essentially a function of quantum entanglement. This has been shown by this study: https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/d5d3dc850933 . Well not exactly, but it has been shown that Photon-particles and entanglement are the properties necessary for time to exist. It is only one step further to assume that Gravity works in exactly the same way. It is simply another system of electromagnetism.

I have not thought this out as carefully as you did. Basically, to refer back to this study. The spin of a certain photon and it's inertia in relationship to other objects determins wether it becomes entangled in a common reality or if they simply avoid each other as if nothing ever happened.

Not sure what you mean by half gravity? Would you care to explain? How does this relate to ur dream experiences, that is something i am quite interested to hear from you.

Pressure is basically another word for Entropy. The more pressure you put into a system the more entropy. The observable universe is basically a reversed entropy system. This does not account for radiation that are not Gravity. Like the radiation of the sun. Which is more of a closed system that touches our system only on certain levels. On other levels the sun might as well be in another dimension as far as we are concerned? Just speculating.. But it sounds intuitively correct! Hard to explain :)

I think Mr Demeglio needs heavy doses of medication. Both visible and invisible with full gravity,
going down throat. :D

Stick the medication where you deem fit in ur own body dave. If you don't have anything useful to say then It is simply my opinion here that you better shut up.

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Stick the medication where you deem fit in ur own body dave. If you don't have anything useful to say then It is simply my opinion here that you better shut up.

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My words are probably the most helpful words ever stated on this forum. thank you. :shadewink:

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My words are probably the most helpful words ever stated on this forum. thank you. :shadewink:

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I'm not up for a discussion here, but telling a stranger to stick powerful medication up the throat in the most ridiculing matter you can muster is not helpful from where i'm standing.

It doesn't look helpful at all when you consider that you probably had hardcore consciousness reducing medicine in mind like seroquel and the likes. Unless you consider creating zombies out of human beings helpful then i retract my opinion and rest my case.

More like Haldol , some tricyclics, a few xanax and a six pack of beer. Seroquel is not powerful enough :D

Dthoughts, thanks for your interest and questions. The ideas of touch, feeling, vision, and thought/the theoretical need to all be brought to bear in a consistent and matching fashion. That is very important. One of the significant shortcomings of the modern approach of physics is to consider physical reality and experience as only visual. The physicists try to be at z when they are not fundamentally and really at A through F. We always begin with typical/ordinary, common, and fundamental/foundational experiences in laying the groundwork of fundamental physical understandings/truths. The ultimate unification of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites.

Consider how/that our motion is basically and fundamentally independent of electromagnetic space (e.g., the Sun and photons). Consider the white and black space (of outer space) as fully detached in relation to touch. Consider that the actual/real/direct experience of outer space as it is destroys and precludes our being, thought, and experience (including visual experience). Moreover and consistently, the visual experience of the Sun in outer space would destroy and preclude any such actual/real/direct visual experience of the sun. Furthermore, the ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sensory experience is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience. Accordingly, the understanding of outer space is inherently and fundamentally limited.

Direct bodily experience (seen, felt, and touched) is where we begin with our physical understanding. Thoughts are invisible, and they are certainly associated with the body and bodily experience. In the absence of inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing there is no extension of space. Distance in/of space is fundamental. Dream experience is invisible. Dreams improve upon thought. Thoughts are invisible.

Instantaneity has been swept under the rug by the modern physicists. Ultimately, time requires and involves instantaneity, gravity, and extensiveness of space. The eye is visible and invisible.

Quantum gravity is present in dreams consistent with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilbrium and balance, the middle distance in/of space, and inertia and gravity in fundamental equilibrium and balance (this necessarily means half gravity and half inertia). Dreams involve fundamentally equivalent and balanced inertia, gravity, and electromagnetism.

The Earth/ground is full gravity. The invisible space above it is half gravity and half inertia (and therefore a middle distance in/of space). Outer space is full inertia. Newton correctly believed that inertia must be a property of space itself. The otherwise visible space goes to/is invisible space in/as dream experience. Dream experience involves the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. The space of dream experience involves visible and invisible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This is the middle distance in/of space. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. Vision extends invisibly in an undivided fashion into invisible space. Obviously, invisible space is also visible. Invisible space is a space. Visible space is seen with, through, and in invisible space. That is clear.

Put the invisible space of the eye at the top of the head. Now, draw this invisible space at the top of the head to the center of the body. Now, draw the visible plane of the Earth/ground along with the visible experience of the body up to the center of the body. Dreams balance being and experience. Seen and felt/touched, dream experience involves fundamentally balanced invisible and visible space consistent with middle strength force/energy/feeling/touch and the experience of the middle distance in/of space. Dream experience is semi-detached in relation to touch/feeling consistent with a maximum of half of the touch/feeling that is experienced at the feet while waking and standing. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body.

The self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. This is a very great truth/fact with tremendous physical/real applicability (or substance/significance). Dream experience is consistent with the fact that the self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. Indeed, if the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience, we would then be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are. Dream experience grows/increases. Dreams are separate from, and yet they are fundamentally and undeniably linked with, waking experience.

The fundamental and true unification of electromagnetism and gravity requires fundamental and true inertial and gravitational equilibrium and balance. This requires and involves half gravity and half inertia of necessity.

Importantly, for the proper and complete understanding of this very important thread, please also see the thread: "Why dream experience is fundamental and so very important" under Extended Discussion. Thanks.

As far as i understand, dreams are a phenomenom relating to Quantum Gravity. I would certainly agree. They are not just a product of the brain. As far as i know, vision begins in the eye. Fundamentally linked to occupital lobes because when you destroy those parts of the brain, vision seizes to exist. That is as far as i understand vision, personally.

I like where you are going with traveling to the sun. I have wrestled with the same thoughts regarding time travel in space. Basically, it is impossible for humans to time travel or travel close to the sun. Thus, what mechanism stops us from reaching these distant places and is there a way around it? I am inclined to believe that doing time travel and basically bending space-time involves a conscious process that ultimately disposes the body and consciousness. Not sure where i'm going with this but I would consider that the external world (like the dream world) is part of the unconscious and is completely malleable and bendable and does exactly so when traveling at or near the speed of light!

I think the most important part of ur threads, frank, is that dreams are indeed just a real as reality. Maybe more so. But really, that is nothing new for some of us here on this forum. ;) It is especially in the outer world deprived of the internet where people consider dreams as fantasy. Mainly because they do not dream them selves so they do not understand. I truly advise you to focus attention on those people and spread the word while using the brain and the heart interchangeably.

Speak with the heart and remember that language is a matter of shared perspective/experience.

Good luck and much love to you sir!

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As far as i understand, dreams are a phenomenom relating to Quantum Gravity. I would certainly agree. They are not just a product of the brain. As far as i know, vision begins in the eye. Fundamentally linked to occupital lobes because when you destroy those parts of the brain, vision seizes to exist. That is as far as i understand vision, personally.

I like where you are going with traveling to the sun. I have wrestled with the same thoughts regarding time travel in space. Basically, it is impossible for humans to time travel or travel close to the sun. Thus, what mechanism stops us from reaching these distant places and is there a way around it? I am inclined to believe that doing time travel and basically bending space-time involves a conscious process that ultimately disposes the body and consciousness. Not sure where i'm going with this but I would consider that the external world (like the dream world) is part of the unconscious and is completely malleable and bendable and does exactly so when traveling at or near the speed of light!

I think the most important part of ur threads, frank, is that dreams are indeed just a real as reality. Maybe more so. But really, that is nothing new for some of us here on this forum. ;) It is especially in the outer world deprived of the internet where people consider dreams as fantasy. Mainly because they do not dream them selves so they do not understand. I truly advise you to focus attention on those people and spread the word while using the brain and the heart interchangeably.

Speak with the heart and remember that language is a matter of shared perspective/experience.

Good luck and much love to you sir!

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I agree Mr Thought. If only Frank can break free of his mental health issues he may be able to communicate more clearly and show more / Any heart to those trying to understand him.
This is his major problem with everyone it appears, but I think its an effect of a baseline Anxiety/ Depressive disorder that he doesnt think he has. Im not a trained psychiatrist but Im a person of common sense that knows when people by their actions/ reactions have a problem.

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gab, you are playing the jerk you back and forth (good guy/bad guy) game again. This is not a game, unless this forum is a joke. This forum is about advancing the understanding gab, not about you personally ridiculing and insulting me. Who is your supervisor here gab? Who is the site administrator of this forum? Who owns this forum?

In the absence of fundamental inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing there is (and there can be) no experience or extensiveness of space. Inertia and gravity are held to be opposites. However, the ultimate understanding of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites. The physicists admit that they still cannot explain inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing. Inertial and gravitational equivalency is established as a fact in physics, however. Full gravity is a collapse of space, and full inertia would disperse space. The direct/real/full experience of outer space as it is destroys and precludes us, our thought, and our experience (including visual experience).

Newton believed that inertia must be a property of space itself.

What is of concern here is stabilized distance in/of space.

The Earth/ground: Full distance in/of space, full sphere, full gravity, and visible space.
The invisible space above it is half inertia and half gravity consistent with the fact that this is a middle distance in/of space between outer space (full inertia) and the Earth/ground (full gravity). The invisible space above the Earth/ground extends to outer space as well. The visual experience of the space (obviously, it is a space) above the Earth/ground is both visible and invisible/not visible. Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance in/of space (clearly, logically, and fundamentally) consistent with half gravity and half inertia. (This is understood as involving a sort of cancelling/balancing). Inertia and gravity are in then in balance, as position and position relative to distance in/of space are both accounted for/consistent (i.e., as middle distance in/of space). Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body.

Dreams balance being and experience. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. The experience of the eye is both visible and invisible. Think about it. Dreams may involve visual experience. This visual experience is visible (to the dreamer) and invisible/not visible (to others). The visual experience in/as dream experience is both visible and invisible/not visible. Inertia and gravity are in then in balance, as position and position relative to distance in/of space are both accounted for/consistent; dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space (seen and felt/touched.)

Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites.

Dream experience fully and consistently involves the following as well: Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance in/of space (clearly, logically, and fundamentally) consistent with half gravity and half inertia.

The invisible space is the middle distance in/of space. We have extensiveness of being and experience in conjunction with visible and invisible/not visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. The invisible experience of the eye along with the invisible (and seamless/undivided) space are middle distances. The visual and visible experience of space is invisible all the way to the Earth/ground, and yet the visible body extends all the way to the Earth/ground (while waking and standing) as well. This averages to a middle distance (visible and invisible/not visible). (The body is visible and invisible. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body.) The plane of space is invisible at the top of the head/body, and the plane of space at the Earth/ground is visible. Consider the range of feeling/touch while waking and standing. Now, dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space (seen and felt/touched) consistent with visual experience and invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This necessarily involves half inertia and half gravity. Notice the balanced middle strength gravitational/electromagnetic/inertial energy/force/touch/feeling in/as dream experience. Accordingly, dream experience is semi-detached in relation to touch. Note the maximum of half or middle strength force/energy/feeling/touch in relation to the maximum feeling/touch while waking and standing that is experienced at the feet. Dream experience is possible/potential and actual experience. Dreams involve fundamentally equivalent and balanced inertia, gravity, and electromagnetism.

Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance in/of space consistent with half inertia and half gravity. This is consistent with dream experience, and this is consistent with the invisible space that extends between the Earth/ground and outer space.

Balance and equilibrium are found at the center. Importantly, balance and completeness/extensiveness go hand-in-hand.

Here is a gigantic, very clear, undeniable, central, extremely important, and fundamental/foundational unification of physics, physical reality, and physical experience.

I am respectfully requesting a reply from the site administrator and owner of this forum. Author Frank DiMeglio

^^ Since you refuse to reply to any of us, Frank; why on earth should anyone reply back to you?

Also, as Gab is one of the few folks here who have chosen not to ridicule you, Frank, I think you owe her an apology.

My mate! You got my attention. Please do not worry about the forum owner.

I want to thank you for broadcasting this information in a format in which i can understand. All this without paying a penny! I would have never bought your book anyway.. No offense. I simply do not buy books very often.

Half Inertia. Half Gravity. Equilibrium. Check.

Dream sensory experience. No inertia, no gravity. Check

Visual space? Electromagnetism.. Spherical objects? I am not completely there yet..
I will get there.

Going to sleep now, first :sleepmeditate2:

Hey Frank. I too some of your ideas and i eventually stumbled upon this paper (2010).

I thought you and others might find it interesting. A New Cosmological Model for the Visible Universe and its Implications.

It's a marvelous paper, I thought it reaffirms some of ur ideas such as,

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The space is contracted/flattened and stretched/expanded. The Sun involves enormous pressure. Think about it please. The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

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Or this,
I think it reaffirms some of these ideas as well. Mainly, that spherical objects have gravity/inertia balance. And the article blatantly states that the earth is at the absolute center of the universe. A logical next step for me is to consider that each and every object is at the center of the universe. Including our eyes/body center of attention, if you know what I mean.

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The Earth/ground: Full distance in/of space, full sphere, full gravity, and visible space.
The invisible space above it is half inertia and half gravity consistent with the fact that this is a middle distance in/of space between outer space (full inertia) and the Earth/ground (full gravity). The invisible space above the Earth/ground extends to outer space as well. The visual experience of the space (obviously, it is a space) above the Earth/ground is both visible and invisible/not visible. Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance in/of space (clearly, logically, and fundamentally) consistent with half gravity and half inertia. (This is understood as involving a sort of cancelling/balancing). Inertia and gravity are in then in balance, as position and position relative to distance in/of space are both accounted for/consistent (i.e., as middle distance in/of space). Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body.

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Just spreading the word :)

Hi Dthoughts. Thanks for keeping an open mind and for being respectful, considerate, and thoughtful.

The experience of the eye is the experience of the body, and it is (or it matches) the space that we are in. The eye/body is visible and invisible. Think hard on that one. It's worth it. Then think more. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body.

Full inertia and full electromagnetism may be associated with flat space. Regarding the visual extension of space, full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched. Stand upright and look down at the Earth/ground. Consider the range of feeling/touch.

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Dreams are not creations of thought, and they cannot be held to be hallucinations either. Dreams are separate from, and yet they are undeniably and fundamentally linked with, our being and our experience. The mistake among the dream theorists is to hold that dreams are entirely/only separate experiences. Dreams balance being and experience. Dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general, thereby improving upon memory and understanding. Television is a creation of thought, as it is fully like thought. Dream experience is semi-detached in relation to touch. Television is fully detached in relation to touch. Dream experience is possible/potential and actual.

I have proven in my work that dreams involve equivalent and balanced inertia and gravity. Accordingly, dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space, with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance.

Waking experience is at the actual end of the spectrum. Half gravity and half inertia in dreams (middle distance). Dreams are in the middle. Television is at the potential end of the spectrum. Dream experience is possible/potential and actual. Dreams balance being and experience. Think about it hard.

Notice how the body may appear as either invisible or visible in dreams. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space, and dreams balance being and experience. These are great ideas, and they are facts.

The blue (exteriorised) sky forms a half of a sphere, as it is half falling, circular, translucent. The flat, orange/red sun (at a right angle thereto); is this not an "interiorised" representation of the Earth? What of the orange magma/lava in (and) on the Earth/ground? Here is a good one. The slight curvature of the moon matches the slight curvature of the Earth/ground. The nature of electromagnetism is possible/potential. The real/direct/actual experience of outer space as it is (including the sun in outer space) precludesd and destroys us, our thought, our experience, and our visual experience.

The fundamentals are just not there in the modern approach. Newton was right that inertia must be a property of space itself. Outer space is full inertia. Television is full electromagnetism and full inertia.

This is fundamental to physics: Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance in/of space (clearly, logically, and fundamentally) consistent with half gravity and half inertia. Invisible space is semi-detached in relation to touch. Outer space is detached in relation to touch. Visible space is not detached in relation to touch.

There is no extension of space, body/bodily experience, and visual experience in the absence of real, fundamental, and true inertial and gravitational equivalency, equilibrium, and balance. Stablized and fundamental distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched is fundamental. Is the eye (the experience of the eye) not in possible/potential/actual form? Is the eye/body not quantum mechanical/quantum gravitational in nature? The eye is visible and invisible. The body is visible and invisible. Think.

Dreams are definitely quantum gravity.

Dreams balance being and experience. A huge truth/fact. Think about it.

My ideas merit very serious consideration. That is clear.

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Hey Frank. I too some of your ideas and i eventually stumbled upon this paper (2010).

I thought you and others might find it interesting. A New Cosmological Model for the Visible Universe and its Implications.
It's a marvelous paper, I thought it reaffirms some of ur ideas such as, ...
Or this, ...
I think it reaffirms some of these ideas as well. Mainly, that spherical objects have gravity/inertia balance. And the article blatantly states that the earth is at the absolute center of the universe. A logical next step for me is to consider that each and every object is at the center of the universe. Including our eyes/body center of attention, if you know what I mean.

Just spreading the word :)

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Here's a link to the whole thing:
Spherical Shell Cosmological Model and Uniformity of Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation


And as far as I am able to follow that paper - it is meant to explain the uniformity of space without Inflation Theory.

Back when it was written - the ultimate proof for Inflation was yet pending and people doubted it.
This year, though, the gravitational waves, which were predicted by Inflation Theory have been found:
http://www.dreamviews.com/science-ma...nal-waves.html

Again as far as I understand matters - all models, which are based on something other than Inflation, are out the window by now.
I can't see any connection to DiMeglio's "theories" either, to be honest.
Interesting, how you come up with such papers - where did you find it?
Looks like a valid attempt to explain matters - just unfortunately not quite right.

Imagine it like this - if you were on a ship in the ocean, and you maybe climb up the mast, so that your horizon is even a bit wider - looking in all directions - the sea looks the same. Just as if you were at the centre of the world, which is visible to you.

The earthly horizon depends on where you stand to look and the curvature of the earth - quite easy to calculate, actually.
Same with the event horizon - just how far away from us it is, is defined by the speed of light.
Things, from which the light didn't have enough time yet to arrive here can't be seen by us.
If you look from somewhere else - you'll have different things to look at in your scope - aliens far away from us can see stars, which are invisible for us, so to speak.

So it looks, as if we were at the centre, naturally - and that we find uniformity in all directions can be explained with the inflationary expansion after the Big Bang.

Please correct me anybody, if I got physics wrong here - posted from the top of my head.

Dream experience is quantum gravity. Quantum gravity requires gravity and inertia in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This means half gravity and half inertia, obviously. Quantum gravity involves visible and invisible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This involves balanced and middle distance in/of space. Our experience of space is necessarily and fundamentally that of the middle distance in/of space.

You all are avoiding the contents of what I am presenting here, and let's eliminate the personal insults that are posted at this forum.

Dream experience and telescopic/astronomical observations both involve a contraction/flattening and stretching/expansion of space.

No one is ignoring you, Frank, and no one has insulted you since your friend Dave left us weeks ago. If you ever took a moment to read our posts, you would know that.

Also, Frank, we have repeatedly asked you, respectfully and thoughtfully, for clarifications of your proclamations, and all we ever get is more cut and pastes of the same words we did not understand before, and no actual confirmation from you that we ever even asked a question.

I think your refusal to discuss these things with us is far more insulting than anything even Dave said; a little respect from you would be most welcome. Oh, and by the way something is not proven because you said it, please offer some more proof than just "I said so."

I think you're wasting your time, Sageous. Best just let him ramble to himself. If there is truth to what he says (whatever he actually is saying), I'm sure a more...... "normal" person will work it out.

^^ Yeah, I know I'm wasting my time; I guess In my heart I keep hoping for some breakthrough where we get an actual coherent response from Frank, but in truth I'm just playing at this point. ;) Besides, folks like Steph and Dthoughts are doing a much better job at getting to Frank's truth, or lack thereof, than he is himself, so at least there is some value other than entertainment value to hang out here...

Frank what is your take, if any, on 'Dark Matter' actually being 'Etheric Matter'?

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Yup. I believe in that. If by etheric you mean astral planes and the whole enchilada.

Steph, I'll try to explain. How I came upon this idea see Micro black holes. I just did minute exercises of Wikipedia and Mind-stretching to produce gravitational waves of insight

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Yes. That is exactly what I think this paper is postulating. I am working on the maths. But i also think the paper states rather neatly that Dark energy is nothing more than Gravitational pull. I think a major hole in Inflation theory is the need for Faster than Light movement of particles. This is completely counterintuitive. And never appealed to me. Tbh, it sounded like a fairytail to me the first time i heared of inflation theory.

What I did in my own thread was asserting to myself if the universe might be the same as a black hole. It occured to me that a black hole has an event horizon. I found out that this event horizon is commonly thought of as a sphere. I checked if someone else might have worked out a workable theory and that's how i stumbled upon this paper.

Going more into detail of an event horizon, I think that this paper makes a case in which the radius of the "actual" (not the visible) universe is thought of as a magnetic field. In which all objects are forced to orbit in a circular fashion. I contemplate that Quasars are the only exception. At the center of every magnetic field is a black hole. It doesn't matter what size a black hole because a black hole is singular and has no size. Bare with me please. The size of a black hole is measured only by the size of it's event horizon. It's gravitational field.

Further food for thought. The van-der-waals force of any given gravitational field has similarities with a black hole don't you think?
One simply has to think of the edge of a gravitational field as the event horizon of any given black hole.

Thinking of Quasars as massive outliners in the universe. The only way a Quasar can have such an incredible force is when it utilizes the gained momentum of falling into a singularity. Except, it does not actually fall into a singularity. Photons 'simply' slide across the singularity and shoot out into the universe as a giant beam of energy. Respectively in accordance to the spin of it's respected black hole (talking about the spin of a quasar beam). Which is respectfully in accordance to the spin of it's parent star that just imploded. A quick Wikipedia search implies; Rotating black hole

So i'm reaching a dead-end here. Time to go to bed. Fuck.. Hahahahahah.. Take it with a grain of salt. I am absolutely convinced though. Every now and then i get these gravitational bursts of motivation to further work on this theory and vent it here. Can't help myself. Hope I don't sound too crazy?

At least, your theory is legible.

The direct/real/full/actual experience of outer space as it is precludes and destroys our being, experience, and thought, including our visual experience. Moreover, the ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sensory experience is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience (including visual). Accordingly, the understanding of "outer space" is necessarily, fundamentally, and inherently limited. Indeed, what are these telescopic/astronomical observations; how are they possible? What is the basic and fundamental physics of these observations? Obviously, the understanding and experience of outer space is observer dependent.

My statements and views have been twisted and distorted at this forum in places. I seek to understanding physics in a fundamental fashion as it relates to both being and experience. This includes the physics of dream experience. This includes our direct experience of space (stabilized, typical, ordinary, and fundamental distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched).

Telescopic/astronomical observations involve space that is flattened/contracted and stretched/expanded. An excellent point.

Dream experience involves space that is flattened/contracted and stretched/expanded. An excellent point.

Dream experience is fundamentally and significantly related to television. Dream experience is fundamentally and significantly related to telescopic/astronomical observations. Dream experience is fundamentally and significantly related to waking experience/waking physics.

The following applies to physics/physical experience. Most importantly. the self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. Very importantly, this is consistent with dream experience. If the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience, we would then be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. This is why dream experience is separate from, and yet it is fundamentally linked to/with, waking experience/waking physics. Dream experience grows/increases, as it is possible/potential and actual.

^^ So same old same old it is, then. What a shock. Well, Frank, at least you're consistent!

P.S.: And Frank, I know you will not answer, but I must ask: Do you cut and paste the same words over and over, or are you actually retyping them every time? Also, do you think your posts are truly answering our questions? It would be truly enlightening, I think, if you were able to honestly answer these questions...

Here is more definitive proof that I have fundamentally demonstrated inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing.

The quantum mechanical nature of matter and energy is well known. The eye is both visible and invisible. You do not see your own eye directly. It is invisible. Obviously, the eye is also visible. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. The experience of the body is both invisible and visible. The eye/body is quantum mechanical in nature. Dreams involve quantum gravity and bodily experience (obviously and undeniably).

Dream experience is consistent with the experience of the eye. Dream experience is visible and invisible in balance. Accordingly, dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space.

Fundamentally and most importantly, invisible and visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance necessarilly consitutes a MIDDLE distance in/of space consistent with BOTH half gravity and half inertia.

Very importantly, while standing upright in our waking experience, FULL GRAVITY involves FULL DISTANCE in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. Consider the VISIBLE Earth/ground. (Consider the range of touch/feeling.) Touch the top of your visible head. Full gravity is full distance in/of space as it applies to both being and experience (i.e., the Earth/ground) seen, felt, and touched. This point is hugely significant. The Earth/ground is full gravity.

Full inertia would be nothing, as the direct/real/actual/full experience of outer space as it is precludes and destroys us, our thought, and our experience (including our visual experience). Outer space is full inertia.

The eye is semi-detached in relation to touch. Think. Dream experience is semi-detached in relation to touch. Another fact. The Earth/ground is attached in relation to touch. Outer space is detached/removed in relation to touch/tactile experience. It all makes sense.

Dreams are invisible. The eye is invisible. Fundamentally and most importantly, invisible and visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance necessarilly consitutes a MIDDLE distance in/of space consistent with BOTH half gravity and half inertia. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space consistent with half inertia and half gravity. Moreover, the invisible space above the Earth/ground is (in fact) a middle distance in/of space between full gravity (the Earth/ground) and full inertia (outer space). Half inertia and half gravity in dream experience involve the middle distance in/of space. In dreams, the involvement of half inertia is consistent with the reduction of the space by half (seen and felt/touched). Accordingly, dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space in conjunction with fundamentally balanced and equivalent inertial/electromagnetic/gravitational force/energy/feeling/touch. This necessarily involves half inertia and half gravity.

It pays to know the physics of dreams.



What of the following?:

Now, while waking and standing upright, gravity is felt (or coming down) in a straight line. Moreover, the Earth appears to be flat in conjunction with the experience of full gravity (as I have described previously). Accordingly, we can understand the spherical Earth/ground as being cut in half in our experience of it. This is then consistent with our experience of what is the positive half/side of gravity. Now, the invisible space above the Earth/ground does represent a space that conforms to/with the shape of the Earth/ground. Moreover and more specifically, this invisible space represents a fundamentally equivalent space that necessarily takes the form of half of a sphere (and a middle space) in relation to the fully spherical Earth. Accordingly, we are inside of the invisible semi-sphere (as this half of a sphere is plainly visible, as it is bounded by the blue sky) in relation to the Earth/ground. This balanced half (or middle) invisible space does constitute a middle or half in relation to the fully spherical Earth/ground.

Dthoughts, what do you think of my last post? The invisible space above the Earth/ground involves a middle distance in/of space. Dream experience is invisible in relation to the visible space of walking experience. Dreams balance being and experience. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space in conjunction with fundamentally balanced and equivalent [middle strength] electromagnetic/inertial/gravitational energy/force/feeling/touch. This necessarily involves half inertia and half gravity. I am positive of this.

The ultimate understanding of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. Some advice to you. Move very carefully from the fundamentals up in your attempts to determine any/the particulars of astronomical/telescopic observations. The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift. I have proven this.

The red (the first visible color) setting sun may be understood as a balanced, fundamental, and pressurized "falling away/distancing" in relation to the Earth/ground. Notice how the space goes invisible around the red setting sun. What of the magma/lava? A relation?

Dthoughts, dream experience is quantum gravity, theoretically and actually/observationally (seen and felt/touched). It involves the ultimate theoretical and actual manifestation and demonstration of quantum gravity, in fact.

Dthoughts, you are correct in agreeing with me that dream experience is quantum gravity and that the cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift. I appreciate your feedback and support.

The following is entirely correct, and it is extremely important, highly educational, and fundamental/foundational:

Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space in conjunction with fundamentally balanced and equivalent [middle strength] electromagnetic/inertial/gravitational energy/force/feeling/touch. This necessarily involves half inertia and half gravity. I am positive of this.

Dream experience is quantum gravity. Invisible and visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance necessarilly consitutes a MIDDLE distance in/of space consistent with BOTH half gravity and half inertia.

The ultimate unification of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites.

*sigh*

Frank D Clown


"I'm positive this is fact, you idiots. Think about it"

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This Frank guy is just trolling us, right?

^^ I fear he may be trolling himself...

Well said, Sageous!

What is the fundamental physics of telescopic/astronomical observations? Consider how these observations are/must be possible. The underlying and fundamental physics of the telescopic/astronomical observations must allow/account for the reality/possibility of the observations. Please consider:

The space is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened.
These telescopic/astronomical observations are significantly or fundamentally related to the physics of dreams. Dream physics/experience is that of the middle distance in/of space.
A balance of visible and invisible space along with a relation of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism are apparent. Balance and completeness go hand-in-hand. Balance involves the center. Center and middle.

The ultimate unification of physics combines, includes, and balances opposites. Magnification, increasing gravity, increasing invisibility of space, and increasing visibility of space are necessarily at play. Dreams involve how a larger space is made smaller and how a smaller space is made larger. Outer space is full inertia. Think!!!!

The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift. That is a fact. I have proven this. Gravity is fundamental to distance in/of space as we experience it. THINK!!!!

The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift. That is a fact. I have proven this. Gravity is fundamental to distance in/of space as we experience it. THINK!!!!

Astronomical/telescopic observations are significantly and fundamentally related to the physics of dream experience (i.e., dream experience).

The real/actual/true/full/direct experience of outer space as it is precludes and destroys us, our experience, our thought, and the/our entire visual experience. Outer space is full inertia. The space is black, we are not touching anything/outer space, and there is weightlessness. It all makes sense.

The space is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened. More is seen at once over [comparatively] a larger/greater distance, and this also involves/consitutes a [comparatively] smaller distance in/of space in order to be able to see/survey such enormous distance at once.

The space is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened. This clearly relates to and involves gravity/gravitational effect. The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift. I have proven this.

Full gravity is full distance in/of space seen, felt, and touched. Being and experience. VISIBLE SPACE.
(Invisible space is between the Earth/ground and outer space.)

Dream experience is half gravity and half inertia consistent with the experience of the middle distance in/of space (seen, felt, and touched). Dream experience is possible/potential and actual. INVISIBLE SPACE. Being and experience. Dreams balance being and experience.

Full inertia/outer space is nothing (seen, felt, and touched). Being and experience.
Outer space is fully detached in relation to touch/tactile experience.

Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance (necessarily, fundamentally, and logically) in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. Notice the seamless or undivided whole in/with the visual experience of the eye/body.

by Author Frank DiMeglio

LSD dream emulator makes more sense than this.

What of the "straight line" telescoping of these astronomical/telescopic observations? Inertia comes to mind, yes. However, there has to be an "anchoring"/involvement here with gravity as well. What of inertial and gravitational equivalency? How are these astronomical/telescopic observations fundamentally possible and visible?

The physicists have no idea of what "dark matter" and "dark energy" are, can be, should be, or need to be.

The field of vision (peripheral vision) is relatively reduced/telescoped when looking downward at the Earth/ground.

Now, red is the first color. Magnification is involved. Notice that the sky goes invisible around the red setting sun. Can we compare this to the blue sky, small sun, and bright light area surrounding this relatively small yellow/white sun?

Is the red sun averaging (and fundamental to) these three manifestations? The red setting sun is about the size of the middle manifestation (i.e., the white/yellow area around the sun when it is high in the sky). Notice the flatness of the red setting sun.

Consider: RoYgBiv

The ultimate unification of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites.

Consider my entire position together with this recent post folks. Thanks.

Comments and questions are welcome please.

Attention: No need to look or stare at the sun folks. It may result in serious damage to your eyes.

The link with the observer cannot be ignored regarding these telescopic/astronomical observations. It is important as well that more is visible when compared to what is seen in the blackness of the night sky. Again (and moreover), do and can we ever experience outer space "as it is"? Gravity has to be involved here. So, what of the fact that the space is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened?

See the gravitational effect or manifestation of pressure?

I love it. I can see the gravitational and inertial effect here. The space is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened?

The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

Hi gab. This thread is real big. I appreciate the opportunity to participate at this forum. Can you promote this thread please?

Time is ultimately dependent upon instantaneity and inertial, gravitational, and electromagnetic balancing. All life is lived in the present. At bottom, instantaneity is fundamental to physics, time/duration, and extensiveness.

Space that is larger and smaller on balance indicates gravity and inertia increasing together....magnification, and more invisible and more visible on balance. The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

See how all of this relates to the telescoping of space in astronomical/telescopic observations (and the cosmological/gravitational redshift)?

gab, this thread is seriously important.

I have clearly and plainly proven that the cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

Clear proof that the cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift:

Space that is larger and smaller AND more visible and more invisible on balance involves magnification and a flattening/contraction and stretching/expansion of the space that necessarily involves increasing transparency/invisibility. (Outer space is flat.) Is this not a telescoping effect? The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift.

One has to consider how these telescopic/astronomical observations are actually possible.

^^ Here are some straightforward, non-sarcastic,. non-insulting questions, Frank; I hope you choose to answer rather than ignore:

How is this clear proof?

Could you elaborate, in simpler terms (perhaps with examples) on the meaning of "...a flattening/contraction and stretching/expansion of the space that necessarily involves increasing transparency/invisibility" ?

What does it mean that outer space is flat?

By progressively making the [observed] visual experience more visible, this is necessarily related to the cosmological redshift (i.e., to gravitation). The cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift. We have to consider how these telescopic/astronomical observations are fundamentally possible.

Sageous, please see the above. Also, carefully consider the flattening/contraction and stretching/expansion of the space. Think about it please. Tell me where you see merit in my full position here. How do you see what I am saying here? Really, Dthoughts is the only one who is offering any constructive and helpful advancement of these ideas. Telescopic/astronomical observations are significantly related with dream experience/dream physics.

^^ Well, I guess that can be considered an answer, Frank; thanks!

What I see in your full position is that you are attaching qualities to space that are either nonexistent or just a small aspect of a greater whole... to do so omits more than it adds. I think I may get where you are concluding that outer space is flat, but why do you think that?

Sageous, you are not properly understanding what I have written. Also, full inertia is full electromagnetism, isn't it?

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Sageous, you are not properly understanding what I have written. Also, full inertia is full electromagnetism, isn't it?

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Ok I guess I'll bite this time. What do you mean by that? I have to admit I have not read the entire thing. Honestly, I think you are all over the place, but I guess I will comment on this one line. Since I can atleast try and disect that one.

As far as I know, Inertia is a property of an object. Newton said that if an object has no external forces applied on them, they will not change their velocity and simply keep going on forever, in a straight line. It is however commonly used to define the "resistance" of an object to change it's motion. So I guess by full inertia you mean, an object that does not get influenced by external forces?

Ok now as far as my understanding goes, Electromagnitism is one of the fundamental forces of the universe. Now for you to say they are the same thing. That is a rather odd statement. I can think of many things not right with this, but let me start with just the most obvious.

Inertia is a property an object with mass, velocity and direction can have. A golfbal for example. Electromagnetism is not an object. It has no mass. It does not go in a straight line. It doesn't even go in any line. It doesn't have lines. It is just something completely different.

Perhaps this is just my lack of understanding though. I would love it if you could explain.

I could discern from the rather obscure and beautifully chaotic thoughts is that Frank is referring to the properties of some kind of unified field. It is not merely the characteristic that objects might present but the very fabric which make things come into existence and appear the way they are in our consciousness through the interaction of the objects(mass and energy) with the field (gravity, eletro-magnetism). Inertia would be the opposite pair of gravity I believe. Please correct me Frank.

Gravity is fundamental to distance in/of space as we experience it. This has to do with the place of human consciousness in the field. It may also be linked with the visible light spectrum range which we are able to perceive. It is our place between the micro and micro cosmos. We perceive the things as we do because of the constraints/confinment of gravity on which our body and minds developed themselves in. If we were of the size of a molecule we would have a different place in the spectrum and a different grasp of reality. Reality would be completely different, with different physics maybe.


The space is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened. This clearly relates to and involves gravity/gravitational effect. In your vision, space is a surface that may spread or contract from what kind of central point? Will it exist forever, will it expand forever or will contract back to singularity? Is there a central singularity?

Appreciate your attention.

The cosmological redshift IS a gravitational redshift. That is certainly a fact.

Fundamentally, electromagnetism involves balanced attraction and repulsion.

The progressive increase regarding what (or how much) is visible in telescopic/astronomical observations is consistent with the gravitational redshift. A space that is stretched/expanded and contracted/flattened does suggest a balance of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism.

The flattening/contraction and stretching/expansion of the space necessarily involves increasing transparency/invisibility. This necessarily involves the cosmological/gravitational redshift.

Please see the thread "Why dream experience is fundamental and so very important" under Extended Discussion. Specifically, my last post there will be quite helpful, as some of you say that I am not presenting the "big picture" clearly.

This is my last post there: THE ULTIMATE NATURE OF DREAMS AND REALITY: WHY DREAMS FUNDAMENTALLY UNIFY PHYSICS/PHYSICAL EXPERIENCE (posted Oct. 6, 2014). This post is super educational, and it is extremely important.

The physics of both dream experience and waking experience are to be considered carefully in evaluating my statements in this thread.

Thank you. Comments and questions are quite welcome.

Think in terms of the extensiveness of space here folks. There is clear merit in this thread. Increased inertia and increased gravity. Think of the pressure containment/reduction/balancing. The gravitational redshift is a cosmological redshift.

This thread of mine is also extremely important, and it is ignored here. How pathetic and bizarre !

Read my opening post here. It is most excellent and important.

Think of how vision/visual experience is fundamentally possible. Also consider that the space/sky around the sun when it is setting (and orange/red) also goes invisible. Gravity involves pressure. This image of the sun is visible in this case. However, the sun when it is overhead is basically/significantly not visible; as it will blind you. Consider again how vision is possible. Consider gravity. Consider electromagnetism. Consider inertia. Look downward. Consider the orange lava inside the Earth/ground. Interesting.

by Author Frank Martin DiMeglio

This thread is also by the author: Why dream experience is fundamental and so very important

It is most excellent, and it is helpful here.

I have proven that the cosmological redshift is (and must be) a gravitational redshift. That is huge news in science.

Huge news, right. You are the first to read and think about things in science that have already been published, which means they have already gone past the hypothesis stage and been rigorously tested and reviewed by the rest of the scientific community. Frank, are you sure of how science works? I can tell by your posts that if you have even gone to college at all, they may have only included an introductory class or two of any kind of class in science. You have not proven anything because you have provided no data on your discoveries, have not published your experiments' standards, the method of investigation, or submitted it for peer review. You have proven nothing. You have claimed something.

I know your posts likely aren't serious at all, but let's assume for a minute that they are. If you want to be taken seriously by any kind of scientist, you have to research the methods and standards for submitting scientific findings and how you "proved" your findings to be correct so that other scientists may reproduce the results to make sure you haven't made a mistake or that other scientists who have tried to recreate the experiments are making mistakes or over-looking anything.

If you truly believe what you think you have discovered about the universe is a scientific discovery (which of course you would call it a theory only after it has been accepted by your peers, not the truth) and that you have figured out something that hasn't already been investigated, thought of, or discovered then you are sorely mistaken and you really need to get over yourself.

How many of you agree with me that the cosmological redshift is a gravitational redshift, and why ?

With these deep space telescopic/astronomical observations, the increase in inertia and the telescoped/narrowed and lengthened/stretched space (with increased invisibility/transparency), along with the fact that more is actually seen imply more gravity. We have to consider how these observations are fundamentally possible, an important point. We have to consider gravity and inertia in balance. We have to consider attraction and repulsion in balance.

by Author Frank Martin DiMeglio

No.

Bad Frank :nono:

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