Space cannot be infinite

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Originally Posted by Somii

Correct. Except the fail and me not criticizing his rebuttal parts. I did the latter in mah head.


Omnis, non-stuff cannot have an attribute, for an attribute must be contained in or in relation to stuff. Black is a property of color, which is an attribute of stuff. Therefore, non-stuff cannot be black. :. your idea of space cannot exist

I could just as easily stomp on his idea, albeit less inane than your light-heart one, but I've given the liberty for someone else to do so. Would you like to do it? :)


Join the Dark side Omnis, or should I say, Omnii. o.0

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I disagree. Black is technically a color in one sense but it also the absence of color because the way we consider black when we think of something that is colored black is not perfect black at all. Perfect black is the complete absence of all light and non-stuff implies the complete absence of all vibrations/matter.

But if you want I can try harder, and I won't keep it in my head.

Space is the stage/dimension from which form attains spatial quality. Space itself is absent of any quality other than the measurable qualities of objects relative to the spatial dimension. ie black nonstuff.

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Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

I disagree. Black is technically a color in one sense but it also the absence of color because the way we consider black when we think of something that is colored black is not perfect black at all. Perfect black is the complete absence of all light and non-stuff implies the complete absence of all vibrations/matter.

But if you want I can try harder, and I won't keep it in my head.

Space is the stage/dimension from which form attains spatial quality. Space itself is absent of any quality other than the measurable qualities of objects relative to the spatial dimension. ie black nonstuff.

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No. Try harder.

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Space itself is absent of any quality other than the measurable qualities of objects relative to the spatial dimension. ie black nonstuff.

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I don't see how the bold text relates to the preceding statements. If non-stuff pertains strictly to the absence of matter/vibrations, as according to your definition, then stuff would be the presence of such. Which means, space, non-void of measurable qualities, of which matter/vibrations are of, should be properly notified as- ie. stuff - contradicting the latter statement.

The connection is simple. Defining space as a dimension essentially assigns it absolutely no real qualities, only qualities which can be expressed through whatever is being measured by these dimensional qualities, colored stuff. The same can be said of time, there is no way to understand time except through measurements that are kept with time. We have one dimensional measurement which exists in a straight line, two dimensional which works on a plane and three dimensional which works through space. Therefore I define space as the stage upon which objects can be measured with 3 dimensional values and a dimensional stage can be aptly described with the opposite of whatever terminology we use to describe manifestation upon this stage. Manifestation in space is stuff, the opposite of which, the stage, is void or nonstuff. Some of this stuff, neutrinos, allows us to see the other stuff. A complete absence of these neutrinos is perfect black. Black non-stuff.

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Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

The connection is simple. Defining space as a dimension essentially assigns it absolutely no real qualities, only qualities which can be expressed through whatever is being measured by these dimensional qualities, colored stuff.

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Dimensional qualities, color stuff, measure those qualities which can be expressed in a dimension? Sigh.

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A complete absence of these neutrinos is perfect black. Black non-stuff.

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Drop this already. It sounds ridiculous. It would be acceptable if you said, as implied in your former post, perfect black indicates the absence of neutrinos, of which we could not see without.However, to infer that the absence of matter and such, is black, or is the absence of neutrinos, would imply that the presence of neutrinos would necessarily mean the presence of matter. Therefore, accordingly, if neutrinos ceased to exist, then all matter would too. I need to find only one example that not all matter is neutrino to collapse your whole theory.


..Gotta run to class. eh..

You are failing to comprehend what I'm saying, anyways so I have no problem dropping it. I can't exactly respond to that post because it doesn't even come close to what I was actually saying.