One can not disbelieve in being created. If you exist and believe you exist then you can't be a atheist.
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One can not disbelieve in being created. If you exist and believe you exist then you can't be a atheist.
This man is right, I am God.
I can't argue with that logic
all hail marvo
Next I'll disprove Christianity with a sentence or two.
Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses!
Do it, you won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
I don't disbelieve being created. I believe I was created by events like the Big Bang and all that jazz, or more simply by my payrents bangin'.
What I disbelieve is that I was created by a God.
What if Marvo was your father? Then you'd have been created by a God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franklin
What of your logic now?
Then metaphorically speaking the Big Bang is your god. Therefor you have a religion and didn't even know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franklin
charlie sheen is my god, so unless you're banging 7 gram rocks you're going to hell
Because "belief" is an synonym for "religion."Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
It's good to see you're on your game tonight, Blonde.
*thumbs up*
this thread is stupid..... >.> lol
and um........ yeeeah ^-^
Move to senseless banter.
Trolling and spam isn't cool, broski.Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverlord345
No way; this topic is serious business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiate
Mr. Blonde has single handedly taken down all of atheism. There will be psalms appended to the bible praising his name.
History in the making right here.
What's a religion without belief? You didn't really disprove anything did you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Metaphorically the big bang is your mother.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
What's there to disprove? My post was agreeing with your (frankly) brilliant display of logic whilst showing everyone else the steps you took to reach your masterful conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Not necessarily as my mom has a mother. I'm talking about the source of us all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ♥Mark
So was Mark. Metaphorically, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
He did. But I meant the source of all things. Not just himself or myself. But thanks for reiterating it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Too high brow?
Stay on topic or leave. You're choice Mzzkc.
Fine.
Aetheist as defined by Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:
God as defined by Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:Quote:
Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster
Created as defined by Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:Quote:
Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster
As you can see, your entire proposition is flawed on the basis that "Created" =/= "God/Deity."Quote:
Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster
Since being an atheist requires only the belief that a god does not exist, you are so wrong it'snot even funnyfreaking hilarious.
But you do in fact believe to be created? Weather it be by evolution or the "Big Bang". You do have a creator that you hold dear too. Meaning....you aren't a atheist.
:cackle: You still don't understand the definition of atheism, eh?
When are you going to disprove Christianity?
You didn't read the definitions I so graciously provided, did you?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
The words "created" and the word "god" are not the same thing. You can't just switch them around and call it logic.
But Christianity is more believable then atheism. That's something we all can agree to right?
Are you a real person?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Surely he's trollin'. He did a good job though, it wasn't obvious until that last post.
Hey hey now I'm not trolling. I feel I'm doing those who seem "scared" to speak against atheists a good deed. I suppose you can call me a activist. How is atheism any more believable then Christianity again?
Because it doesn't require belief in things that cannot be proven and were conceived hundreds of years ago by tribesmen who had no understanding of basic scientific concepts we teach school children today.
Christianity as brought to humanity things Atheism would never have. Knowledge. Certain knowledge that atheist claim to be brought by them. but it isn't. It was brought from above. You know? The man upstairs?
We have scientifically proven that homosexuality is caused by flaws in DNA. So therefore homosexuals are made by God. However,
Leviticus 20: 13 - If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads
God must be one malevolent entity.
Those are some big claims. Care to provide some evidence to this scientific fact big boy?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikesToTrip
You need to learn your history.
Christianity has tried to suppress knowledge for ages, going so far as killing people trying to advance humanity's understanding of the universe.
Edit: If we want to break out the bible verses let me know; I've probably studied and read the thing more than most Christians. There are some doozies in Deuteronomy. Like that one about stoning a woman for having her period. Lawlz.
Obviously trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Obviously every crime needs a punishment. Besides killing is at the end of the day due to the person not because of the religion. Christianity does say not to kill if you hadn't noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
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Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Provide something of use instead of pulling out the insults. You know I could say the same of you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vertebrate
Well I did some very brief research and it looks like the Gay Gene is still being disputed. I apologize for not googling before posting, very unlike me. That doesn't change the fact that God is far from a "godly" entity.
God was the first to create Genocide with the great flood. He completely destroyed Job's life, even killing his family, in order to win a bet. He wanted to keep man ignorant by keeping them from eating from the tree of knowledge. Satan convinced man to eat from the tree, and thus gained knowledge. If the Bible were real, I'd side with Satan.
The original text is a lot closer to murder than kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
So, killing is totally cool as long as it's not murder.
Also:
'Cause having your period and learning are crimes that warrant death.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Metaphorically rain clouds are the sky crying, therefore weather has emotions. Metaphorically something is superficially similar to something else, therefore they are literally the same thing.
Still waiting...Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
I don't understand are you saying god intended men to be ignorant? That makes absolutely no sense. To even bring that to table makes me question you're intellgince and makes me stereotype all atheist to be the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by LikesToTrip
Now that totally is taken out of context. What is good and wrong differentiates between people. So what I think is good can be terrible to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Don't please don't misquote and use sarcastic humor to get out of answering my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by ♥Mark
He wouldn't let Adam and Eve gain knowledge by eating from the tree of life. Proof straight from the Bible, what more do you need? Stereotyping because of one post by one person; what a great way to go about life.Quote:
I don't understand are you saying god intended men to be ignorant? That makes absolutely no sense. To even bring that to table makes me question you're intellgince and makes me stereotype all atheist to be the same.
STILL waiting....Quote:
Next I'll disprove Christianity with a sentence or two.
On the first day, man created God. The benevolent, omnipotent God wouldn't have allowed for such ridiculous and/or violent things to happen such as the Spanish Inquisition.
Maybe God had bigger plans for them? Besides it isn't that simple. There's quite more to the story.
Sorry I can't do that.
Earth isn't a heaven you know. Bad things happen because of man. Not because of god.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeac
No, the bible states pretty clearly that murder is taboo, but killing is fine. It even details ways people should be killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Are you saying that you don't agree with the word of God? 'Cause that'd be blasphemous, you blasphemer you.
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I never said God would cause these things.
Murder is killing with the intent of an impulsive desire to harm the victim. I'm not sure what that means to you, however, if God has the power to create universe, and if he he is a kind God, why would he decide to permit any form of killing?
All the killers in the Inquisition believed that they were killing for God to preserve Catholicism, which is absolutely ridiculous. What are the plans for those murderers? Would they go to hell for killing innocent Jews, nonbelievers, and "witches", because the didn't believe in the Catholic church, because they committed murder? Or would they be honored for killing those who committed "blasphemy"?
Do you believe in pain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4MqTCIDKhU
Stop with the childish posts. I'm getting offended.
Is this how all atheist act? I'll take note of this to never talk to one. Case in point my philosophy teacher.
Why no. I am not an atheist, I am an agnostic.
Apologies if I came off a little strong, no offense to you, but mainstream religion is flawed IMHO.
How the fuck did an OP with nothing but an egregiously flawed argument go 2 pages in a few hours?
I blame me.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
Y'all should probably stone me now.
I think going as far to call it an "argument" is actually insulting to all the other retarded posts out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
Atheism is more a paradox or an irony than a lie
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Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Existence has nothing to do with God, unless "one" decides that it does.
Atheism has nothing to do with lack of belief in general, only lack of belief in deities, which as mentioned, is not synonymous with existence.
Age old question;
Who the hell created god?
And who created them?
And who created them?
And, um, who created them?
Plus, if women were killed for having their periods, all women would be dead by now. We would have only children left. And oh wait, we wouldn't be able to reproduce because girls can only become pregnant after their second period, so I guess they'd be in hell by then. Jesus, having your time of the month's a bitch eh?
What I want to ask god (if he were actually there), is why he created hate, fear, bloodlust and all that crazy shit in the first place.
And DON'T say "Oooh... But he gave us free will! Man does the bad things!" Because if god created everything, then he created that too. It wouldn't have just popped up out of no where.
And if satan made it, then god should have shot his ass by now and bloody fixed it because he can do anything, see anything, be anywhere, know anything right? Also, if it's to make us thankful for good times, then he should have just made us grateful all the time. That's what I would have done.
I just really don't like the thought of someone in the sky making people so we can ass-lick him and tell him how brilliant he is.
And as for the homosexual thing. He shouldn't have given some people the urge to get down and dirty with the same sex if he doesn't like it. Or maybe he does. Maybe he's sadistic and that's why gay people are told to die in the bible.
activism - a policy of taking direct and militant action to achieve a political or social goalQuote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
...... So what is your goal exactly????????????????????? >.> To prove us wrong? Cause you simply cannot win unless Jesus walks down here and kills me. :)
Man, I can't work out for the life of me if this is troll or funny or mentally retarded or all of the above.
In any case, I know where this baby goes!
Every religion believes in the same shit, but in a different way.
THANK YOU!!!!!! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Xei
hmm... i can't seem to find a thanks button under you're post :(
Ah, it's back in R/S. Is this thread the ball in "forum pong"?
(Oh and apparently moving threads messes up the thanks system).
God wasn't created. Can you not understand that? Do you what context the "period killing" is actually in? I find it amusing how you all take it out of context constantly to make the religion look bad. Interesting question. I don't feel I'm in the position to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raspberry
How did god come into existance?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Why is this thread still here :(
Not sure, spontaneously popped back out of SB.
He always was. If God came into existence he would fail to be god at that moment. I don't think you understand what Eternal is.Quote:
Originally Posted by JussiKala
shud up MrBlonde
ur wrong
STFU
please
I humbly beg you
just
no
this
is
too
lame
to
comprehend
Good bye
pfft.... it's only a WONDER you don't have any LD's
u don't deserve any :)
Well that was just not nice. Is this how R/S plays ball? Taking note.
FYI, I don't have Lucid Dreams I get into them. Go crazy!
Why do I even bother?
Because you're trying to convince yourself that your ridiculous beliefs might be possible. Go back and read your holy book if it gives you so much comfort. It's clear that you're not here in the name of truth or logic.
I wish someone would reply to my thread :(
The Church has been contradicted by science so many times it's not even funny. Even when science has been close to doing it, for example, my friend told me something about Jesus's tombstone and how it's been scientifically proven that it couldn't have been created through any physical human power. Then I said, "Couldn't they have elephants or oxen or some shit to move it?" No answer. huh.
The universe wasn't created. Something cannot come out of nothing. Something, whether big or small, invisible or in plain sight, physical or pure energy, MUST have already been the universe in the first place, God or otherwise. Or I'm just plain stupid and shit just pops into thin air everyone once in a while and I don't notice it.
The thing is, we don't need a God to cause whatever chemical or metaphysical reaction that created the universe.
And I'm still waiting for MrBlonde to contradict my post:
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Originally Posted by mikeac
Some developments in quantum mechanics contradict this.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeac
Indeed.Quote:
The thing is, we don't need a God to cause whatever chemical or metaphysical reaction that created the universe.
Can you please post a link? It sounds interesting.
I should note that some of the developments operate under a different understanding of "nothing." Anyway, some of these will clarify:Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROTDg6pQ3RE -- Full version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
http://www.astrosociety.org/pubs/mer...2/nothing.html
4 pages of thread replies feeding a troll. Come on, guys. :)
Parents is god?
The whole thread is moot. The OP at best is an argument against Adeism, and not Atheism; but only when "creator" is taken as being synonymous with "god".
and, moved (back) to sb. If a mod decides to move this (back) to R/S, please post so that we know who and why.
According to google Adeism isn't even a word. And according to the link in your post adeism is exactly the same as atheism... Why change a couple letters when the original word is fine as it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaqaria
because the meaning is right there in both words. Atheism means no religion. Someone could believe in god and still be an atheist if they don't believe in any religion. Adeism means no god, which is what the thread was originally about (again, assuming the OP equates creator with god).Quote:
Originally Posted by LikesToTrip
From Wikipedia:
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Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
What piqued my interest is how the explained the pre-existence of the universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUELINE976
So basically, our universe, if all the energy was added up together, will equal zero, and always will be since all the positives and negatives of the universe constantly balance each other out.Quote:
It might be the vacuum in some pre-existing space and time, or it could be nothing at all – that is, all concepts of space and time were created with the universe itself.
Zero is 'nothing'. This 'nothing' is the universe., and the universe is full of 'nothing'. If God exists, he created nothing.
Ahem.... I have returned to state ONE MORE THING!
The effin MODERATORS MOVED THIS TO SENSELESS BANTER!!!!!!!!!! I shall stop..... you dont get our logic here
MrBlonde summoned Jesus and his Troll Gang to move it back with his almighty holy Holyness filled with holy radiation that is holy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaqaria
okeys for some reason it's in both now........
Atheism the lack in belief of god or gods. God the creator of all things. Creator one who creates. Creation the work of a creator.
Example:
I don't believe in god.
I don't believe in the creator.
I don't believe I'm created.
I don't exist.
But.....
I do exist.
Atheism is a lie.
So what you're saying is that god must be here, because since you just swept atheism off the map, there are now only religions who claim there's a big guy in the sky who got a little bored one day and created a world but was too sadistic to be satisfied watching them love and grow and instead also created hate and bloodshed, and also forgot to clear up a lot of contradictions -which OF COURSE are only misconceptions by the PEOPLE who wrote the bible- in his old age.
Lovely. I'm glad that's settled. I understand now.
(note the sarcasm throughout this post)
NOW FOR LSEADRAGON'S FUN FACTS
I have given this a lot of thought, and I have decided that the universe was created by a giant rainbow snake
and by that, I mean a closed timelike loop.
The arrow of time (entropy) is a part of this universe, and there's no rule that says it has to apply outside it. So effectively if another universe was connected to it the arrow of time in that one could run in a different direction
and you'd have a loop if they connected.
Along the timestream of one universe (UNIVERSE A), somewhere 30 billion years in the future, scientists create another seed universe perhaps, which pops right out of sight when they make it. or it happens due to natural causes. I have read about this, I think it's very unlikely but we've got trillions of years to do it
and then the same thing happens in the other (UNIVERSE B) and each of these connect to the other universe's origin, so you have a creation point for both but no actual starting point
PROBLEM SOLVED
this isn't actually very original but I came up with it myself when I was eight and I remain proud of that,
Your logic is undeniable. Connecting the disbelief in a God with the disbelief of existing. Pure genius. I bet you'd be a damn good programmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
Mr Blonde is a human. Big fat women are humans. Therefore Mr Blonde is a big fat woman.
THIS LOGIC IS UNDENIABLE.
The only other way this could work out is. If you disbelieve in god arrogantly even though you know he exist. Oh well I guess this another one for the books?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikesToTrip
This post is invisible.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld...9a2wo1_500.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by MrBlonde
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Originally Posted by Xei
Oprah is a human. Oprah is a big fat woman. All humans are big fat women.
My god is a potential creative force. My god is a conscious designer. Therefore all potential creative forces are conscious designers.
Now unfortunately, I can't build on that result to do:
all humans are big fat women. MrBlonde's mom is a human. Mrblonde's mom is a big fat woman
because that's not permissible under the system of logic we're working in here.
this thread is too funny to.....oh "GOD" it's funnyanyways I can't help saying that you're stupid MrBlonde.... ^_^ here is some logic for you
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God Doesn't exist
I don't believe in him
I am athiest
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God doesn't exist
I believe in him
I am not athiest
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God does not exist
I am compelled to prove everyone wrong by using logic my 3 year old talking teddy bear thought of
I am MrBlonde
God is love. Money cannot buy love. Money is the root of all evil. If you believe in god you will embark on an endless quest of seeding evil to obtain money to buy love you will never be able to afford. You are working at a toy store, yes? Does that not make you a HYPOCRITE? Money equals POWER. Power equals CAMEL. Camel equals FIVE CELERY STICKS. FIVE. Quid pro quo.
The Bible is the "word of God".
The Bible is written by man, however.
But does that mean man is God? NO.
Still waiting for good arguments, or until MrBlonde "ZOMG RAGEQUIT"s and this thread gets locked.
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I don't know if God exists.
I do exist.
I believed I was created.
My parents are my creator.
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A chemical reaction is what most likely created life on this Earth. Simple as that.
Another thing, I absolutely HATE how believers think that out of the trillions of galaxies, we are the only life out of them. That's ridiculous.
MrBlonde already disproved that statement.
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Originally Posted by MrBlonde
I almost believed you for a sec, that post had almost the same logic as his OP.
:laughhard:
Why? Is it so hard to believe that a lonely old bearded man dressed in white robes farted everything into existence? Someone had to of pulled God's finger for him to have created everything. That someone was Joseph Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franklin
On the contrary it's much easier to believe. If you lack the intelligence to think and reason a God is a very easy way of describing the world.The Big Bang and Quantum Physics are much too complicated for feeble minds.
http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/imag...s_religion.png
Scientific facts are not a belief, so we do not have a creator that we hold dear to us. Meaning we are atheist. There is no are no gods or deitys. That is my opinion
HA its way easier to make up a "God" or a "religion" to explain how your here. It def was at the time it was made up. But ya modern tech is to complicated man up do some research and use some science and figure out why we are here instead of making shit up. I agree with you!
I wonder what would happen if science made a concrete discovery of how we were created, which = no god.
Religion would go ape-shit.
Even if god was found to be real, I wouldn't like him anyway because let's face it, he's a bit of a prick.
I doubt much would happen. Science made a concrete discovery of gradual evolution from a common ancestor a few hundred years ago. Religion didn't go apeshit so much as it just said 'fuck this' and decided to go live inside a small and dark cardboard box.
Whatever process was discovered would obviously have been set into motion and guided by god. God is so dead set on hiding that if there were a way we could make a machine that could undeniably detect the presence of god, I would not be surprised if they told us "God destroyed himself for the duration of the test" when it came up negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raspberry
More likely the response would be:
Some ancient Egyptian that I label a scientist thought it was good to stick shit in wounds. Somebody that I label a scientist was wrong. All people that I label as scientists are wrong.
ORLY? What exactly do you know about quantum physics?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikesToTrip
One can only be a child of Sheen, if he is Winning. Duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catbus
Wowzers, so much hate in this thread. I'ma just leave.
I subconsciously want to fuck the big bang.Quote:
Originally Posted by ♥Mark
It'd be quite the bang. Eh? Eh? Quite the bang? Get it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...0/laugh460.jpg
You have no idea how much I want to shoot you for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinGill
http://lolmart.com/files/2011/03/har...-at-me-bro.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia
I feel like we've made a lot of progress.
I also feel like this thread is too terrible to continue.