In memory of that horrible day...

What made 9/11 worse than most other disasters (like the tsunami, the earthquakes and hurricanes) is that HUMANS did it. Nature, not being a concious being cannot be responsible for it's actions; but people can.
The total disregard for humans life throughout history has always shocked me and saddened me, but I promise that I will do my best to pick up the pieces after each disaster and give humanity another chanche.

This thread is for all those who wish to say something - anything to in memory of those whose lives were ended abrubtly on september the 11th, and of course to those brave men who risked and sacrificed their own lives to save others.

I really don't want to see any riligious zealots fight atheïsts in this thread, or see any muslim bashing. That would only dishonor the dead.

Amen.

Mankind is still a relatively juvenile race, so I guess it's normal that we still make lots of mistakes. Let's hope that in time this will change. It will require hard work though.

No one? Oh dear :D

Humans are the worse things to ever happen to this planet. In fact, the worst thing to ever happen to humans was a high level of intelligence.

Humans are not the worst thing to happen to this planet. Honestly we haven't fucked it up that much, but we keep trying. The problem is not a high level of intelligence, but ignorance. Lets take time to think about the futility of vengence. That is the one thing we can all do to help bring about peace.

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Originally Posted by stonedape

Humans are not the worst thing to happen to this planet. Honestly we haven't fucked it up that much, but we keep trying. The problem is not a high level of intelligence, but ignorance. Lets take time to think about the futility of vengence. That is the one thing we can all do to help bring about peace.

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Humans are the worst thing to happen to ourselves...We continue to populate, almost every problem humans have can be traced back to over population.

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Originally Posted by Sandform

Humans are the worst thing to happen to ourselves...We continue to populate, almost every problem humans have can be traced back to over population.

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We are no different from the other species. The balance will be restored. Eventually. I look at it this way: In stone age our species was a toddler. Now we are discovering new stuff so fast without looking at the consequenses; and we (generally) behave like a bunch of small minded 16 year olds.(no offence) Our species is going through puberty. Eventually we will learn....

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Originally Posted by NeAvO

the worst thing to ever happen to humans was a high level of intelligence.

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I'm pretty sure the lack of intelligence is a bigger cause of our problems.

Just because we happen to, for some reason, be in Senseless Banter.

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For some reason I find the term "Jewdom" absolutely hilarious.

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Holocaust v2.0 anyone?

I'm not trying to offend anyone. Far from it. But shouldn't this thread be more solemn as it was in the begginning?

No, because that would make sense, and we`re in Senseless Banter. So nyeh.

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Originally Posted by spockman

I'm not trying to offend anyone. Far from it. But shouldn't this thread be more solemn as it was in the begginning?

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This thread was meant to be serious, but apparently no one thinks 9/11 was a tragedy, so....

You used Lol in this thread. Your opinion is now void.

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Originally Posted by ExoByte

You used Lol in this thread. Your opinion is now void.

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Where? Show me ONE example.

i c wut u did thar

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Originally Posted by ExoByte

i c wut u did thar

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Huh? What? I have NO idea what you're talking about. :?

I call Shenanigans.

9/11 was a tragedy, but there are other tragedies in the past that aren't talked about as much as 9/11. Intelligence is among the worst thing to happen to earth, along with religion. If we weren't intelligent we wouldn't be making things that kill the environment and we wouldn't be destroying everything. But when I look at it from another point, if we weren't intelligent we'd still just be some vicious race of mammals that kill each other for survival. Also, if there was no religion, 9/11 would have never happened. Along with many other things in the world, like crusades, persecutions, etc. etc..

Yeah, I know I'm a theist, but I can still point out problems with my beliefs.

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Originally Posted by NeAvO

Humans are the worse things to ever happen to this planet. In fact, the worst thing to ever happen to humans was a high level of intelligence.

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CORRECTOMUNDO.

I think that those who disagree with this statement assume we believe that humanity is all bad. Humanity is far from completely malicious but you have to admit that attaining higher-order thinking skills has lead to the best and the worst things that have ever happened on Earth.

I don't consider that many humans intelligent.

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Also, if there was no religion, 9/11 would have never happened.

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I disagree. If you read Lord of the Flies you can see that human nature is inescapable...

If leaders didn't manipulate people into crusades via exploiting there religion they could use something else.

If people are zelous enough about something they will find convictions in whatever they want. Conviction is not sprung on by religion. 9/11 specifically may have happened, but if we look at humans history we can find any reason to kill each other without logic.


And as far as intellect, I think it's more about our concept of desire. We want more than survival and contentment. That is my definiton of desire anyway. If monkeys were suddenly hit with our level of intelligence but not with desire, they would probably not build on each other or beat down each other as much. They would be more logical about it I'd say.

Big thanks to Exobyte for fixing this thread. I'm definetly reffering to David rockefeller as the king of secret jewdom from now on.

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Originally Posted by stonedape

Big thanks to Exobyte for fixing this thread. I'm definetly reffering to David rockefeller as the king of secret jewdom from now on.

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Poor bastard.



Anyway, I don't think intelligence is bad. It's inevitable.
Power is good, BUT you have to use it responsibly, which most people don't.
I don't like human-bashers.

well i guess i'll get back on the subject of saying what i feel about 9/11.
i think i speak for all when pointing out the obvious that well, it sucked.
i agree with spockman when he says that it was inevitable. we are human. but what we need to do now is just never forget, but also learn to forgive. the planes that crashed into the towers did not contain the entire muslim population. every single muslim did not get together and plan this out. just like no every german wanted to exterminate the jew. (catch my drift?)
so you want to know what i think of 9/11? well i think it was a trdegy(just like everyone else) and i do wish it never happened, but well i simply can't turn back time. i am not GOD. neither is anyone else but him. once again, learn to forgive, but not to forget, because forgetting would be the biggest crime of all....:|

9/11 was especially brutal to me because these innocent ppl werent even
casualties of war if you ask me. Just going to work and minding their own
business! Just another horrible example of what ppl can do to each other! :(

I watched a documentary that said that even with all the wars in the
20th century, it still wasnt the bloodiest and hadnt as many casualties of
war as previous centuries......even tho we could do the most damage
now with our technology.....maybe we are slowly but surely learning? :|

you know, i also think that the reason that it was as bad as any other war, is that it happened in our homeland. although it didn't kill as many people as a war, it was as though it did.
it is amazing what ppl can do, but not all humans are bad.