Right Brain/ Left Brain

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03-02-2009, 04:40 AM
TheMind

Right Brain/ Left Brain

Look at my avatar and tell which way it's spinning for you

LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS - Counter Clockwise
uses logic
detail oriented
facts rule
words and language
present and past
math and science
can comprehend
knowing
acknowledges
order/pattern perception
knows object name
reality based
forms strategies
practical
safe

RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS - Clockwise
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and images
present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (i.e. meaning)
believes
appreciates
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy based
presents possibilities
impetuous
risk taking
03-02-2009, 04:51 AM
O'nus

I love this illusion but don't let all the "psychology" fool you. Nearly all of the functions of the brain are in co-operation of both sides. This is a myth of neurology that is pounded into 101 courses. Born from the idea of adamant reductionism, the mind is more convoluted than that and is not entirely dependent on one hemisphere for mind functions. This is how savants are able to survive.

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03-02-2009, 04:58 AM
TheMind

true, but just as you have a dominant hand, you have a dominant hemisphere. I tend to be more right brained, but every now and then, it spins the other way. didn't really intend for a debate, just thought it would be a good idea since the doomsday thread got hung up on my avatar, they and others could just come here.
03-02-2009, 05:09 AM
O'nus

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMind

true, but just as you have a dominant hand, you have a dominant hemisphere. I tend to be more right brained, but every now and then, it spins the other way. didn't really intend for a debate, just thought it would be a good idea since the doomsday thread got hung up on my avatar, they and others could just come here.

True that.

~
03-02-2009, 05:12 AM
TheMind

so are you right or left?
03-02-2009, 05:15 AM
O'nus

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMind

so are you right or left?

Well I can easily switch it back and forth. Once the leg is pointing left or right it's my choice to switch. You can even make the dancer look like she's just swinging her leg back and forth in front of her by switching back and forth between clock wise-counter clock-wise at the leg points. There ought to be an option for both.

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03-02-2009, 05:55 AM
paragon

It's going clockwise at the moment, but I think I've seen it go counterclockwise before without willing it. All of the attributes from both hemispheres seem to apply to me, so maybe I'm neither. :confused:
03-02-2009, 06:26 AM
Marvo

Quote:

Originally Posted by paragon

It's going clockwise at the moment, but I think I've seen it go counterclockwise before without willing it. All of the attributes from both hemispheres seem to apply to me, so maybe I'm neither. :confused:

You do not have a brain.
03-02-2009, 08:13 AM
Kiza

Right brain, apparently.

I completely disagree.
03-02-2009, 08:28 AM
Desert Claw

Im sorry but i dont see how it could be counter clockwise, no matter how i look at it. i can't even remember what is was going to say because im too distracted with your avatar!
wait! i see it now! but i still cant remember what i was going to say

that illusion only works at an eye level angle by the way
thats why it appears clockwise to so many people.
03-02-2009, 04:22 PM
ClouD

Ok wow, at first I thought this could only go clockwise, and was convinced there was no other way.
Then I looked at the foot reflection and it changed.
Then I looked at the body, and it went one way then the next and kept reversing all the time, now it's just going counter-clockwise.

I can't seem to change it deliberately though. :?

Edit: I can change it to counter-clockwise now by blinking and visualising direction, but it always defaults to clockwise at first glance.
03-02-2009, 05:15 PM
Marvo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Claw

Im sorry but i dont see how it could be counter clockwise, no matter how i look at it. i can't even remember what is was going to say because im too distracted with your avatar!
wait! i see it now! but i still cant remember what i was going to say

that illusion only works at an eye level angle by the way
thats why it appears clockwise to so many people.

You're wrong, I can do it at any angle. The illusion plays on the fact that we can't see any depth, thus we can't see whether her leg is in front of her or behind her. Supposedly, the direction she's rotating explains which brain hemisphere is dominant.

The illusion uses the same idea as this illusion:
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9...llusiongif.gif
03-02-2009, 05:30 PM
Higurashi

Originally it went clockwise for me, but I've been able to make it go the other way ^.^
03-02-2009, 06:24 PM
Amethyst Star

It goes clockwise for me. If I focus on the reflection I can make it go the other way and then see the leg go counter-clockwise, but once I look at the arms it starts going back to clockwise.

Need more effort!!!
03-02-2009, 07:12 PM
DuB

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMind

true, but just as you have a dominant hand, you have a dominant hemisphere.

True, but while this has some effect on things like handedness and lateralization of language functions, it does not predict any aspect of personality. Anyway it's a moot point, since this illusion has nothing to do with hemispheric dominance and everything to do with how we interpret 3D images on a 2D plane.

And for the record (just so that I'm not jumping in here solely to be contentious :P), I've been acquainted with this illusion for many months and have yet to ever see it spin counter-clockwise... :|
03-02-2009, 07:34 PM
Ishi

What if it switches between both?
03-02-2009, 10:01 PM
paragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishi

What if it switches between both?

Does that for me if I stare at it for a while, too. Weird.
03-02-2009, 10:20 PM
Kiza

Damnit. We're all right brain dirty bastards.
03-02-2009, 10:58 PM
Goldney

I can make it switch at will because I am leet.
03-02-2009, 11:29 PM
TheMind

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuB

Anyway it's a moot point, since this illusion has nothing to do with hemispheric dominance and everything to do with how we interpret 3D images on a 2D plane.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Why do I say this? Because, for most people I know (and me too), if you think artistically it spins one way, then if you think about logic it spins the other. Unfortunately this is hard to determine on a forum because the hemisphere you're using could be caused by what the last thread you saw was about. I think the only way to do it with a precise outcome would be to look at it first thing in the morning, which would be difficulf.

EDIT: by the way, Marvo, I see your illusion font-face-down
03-02-2009, 11:38 PM
DarkLucideity

Actually I can make it spin whichever way I want. Close your eyes and visualize it spinning one way, when you open them it will be spinning that way.
03-02-2009, 11:59 PM
DuB

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMind

Sorry, but you're wrong.

Here's what a clinical neurologist at Yale has to say. Of course, he's probably wrong too. After all, how can you argue with a handful of personal anecdotes? :roll:
03-03-2009, 12:08 AM
Xox

I haven't seen this one for a while, I used to be able to make it switch. Can't anymore. :(
03-03-2009, 12:32 AM
Goldney

I find it hard to believe that it's truly an indication of personality dominance, seeing as EVERYONE has said that they see it spinning clockwise first.

Probably because we're used to seeing people move forward and it is logical to assume that she woud spin that way.
03-03-2009, 12:35 AM
no-Name

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldney

I find it hard to believe that it's truly an indication of personality dominance, seeing as EVERYONE has said that they see it spinning clockwise first.

Probably because we're used to seeing people move forward and it is logical to assume that she woud spin that way.

I can only see it spinning counter-clockwise. :(
Used to be able to make it spin either way, as well as rock back and forth, used to. :\
03-03-2009, 11:59 AM
Specialis Sapientia

I see it spin clockwise, but it's easy to change it when you get the hang of it. Look at the her feet or the shadow, flick your eyes and do it mentally
03-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Ilumirath

Counter clockwise... and i cant make it go clockwise doesnt matter how hard i try, it just wont.
03-03-2009, 05:32 PM
Ilumirath

nvm it jumps
03-03-2009, 08:40 PM
Jeff777

Quote:

Originally Posted by O'nus

I love this illusion but don't let all the "psychology" fool you. Nearly all of the functions of the brain are in co-operation of both sides. This is a myth of neurology that is pounded into 101 courses. Born from the idea of adamant reductionism, the mind is more convoluted than that and is not entirely dependent on one hemisphere for mind functions. This is how savants are able to survive.

~

I love reading your posts.
10-24-2013, 02:15 PM
StephL

Quote:

Originally Posted by O'nus

I love this illusion but don't let all the "psychology" fool you. Nearly all of the functions of the brain are in co-operation of both sides. This is a myth of neurology that is pounded into 101 courses. Born from the idea of adamant reductionism, the mind is more convoluted than that and is not entirely dependent on one hemisphere for mind functions. This is how savants are able to survive.

~

Absolutely!!
With the restraint of the fact that most savants don´t have a disturbance in right-left hemispheric connectivity.
But some do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Savant syndrome is a condition in which a person with serious mental disabilities, including autistic disorder, demonstrates profound and prodigious capacities or abilities far in excess of what would be considered normal. People with savant syndrome may have neuro-developmental disorders, notably autism spectrum disorders or brain injuries.

Savant syndrome is poorly understood. No widely accepted cognitive theory explains savants' combination of talent and deficit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O'nus

Well I can easily switch it back and forth. Once the leg is pointing left or right it's my choice to switch. You can even make the dancer look like she's just swinging her leg back and forth in front of her by switching back and forth between clock wise-counter clock-wise at the leg points. There ought to be an option for both.

Yupp - that is actually what you really "objectively" are shown here, says the article.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuB

True, but while this has some effect on things like handedness and lateralization of language functions, it does not predict any aspect of personality. Anyway it's a moot point, since this illusion has nothing to do with hemispheric dominance and everything to do with how we interpret 3D images on a 2D plane.

And for the record (just so that I'm not jumping in here solely to be contentious :P), I've been acquainted with this illusion for many months and have yet to ever see it spin counter-clockwise... :|

Yes!!
See tips below for having it switch - good luck with it!

I found it helpful to read the article below - not only for content, but while you focus on reading the text - the figure does it´s own thing to your mind and switches if you don´t directly focus on it.

I could do it, when I first saw it some years ago - but I had problems just now - until reading that article.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuB

Here's what a clinical neurologist at Yale has to say. Of course, he's probably wrong too. After all, how can you argue with a handful of personal anecdotes? :roll:

Thanks - great article - best I read it explained!

Quote:

Originally Posted by neurologicablog

The spinning girl is a form of the more general spinning silhouette illusion.

The image is not objectively “spinning” in one direction or the other.

It is a two-dimensional image that is simply shifting back and forth.

But our brains did not evolve to interpret two-dimensional representations of the world but the actual three-dimensional world.

So our visual processing assumes we are looking at a 3-D image and it uses clues to interpret it as such.

Or, without adequate clues it may just arbitrarily decide a best fit – spinning clockwise or counter-clockwise.
And once this fit is chosen, the illusion is complete – we see a 3-D spinning image.

By looking (somewhere else) around the image, focusing on the shadow or some other part, you may force your visual system to reconstruct the image and it may choose the opposite direction, and suddenly the image will spin in the opposite direction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldney

I find it hard to believe that it's truly an indication of personality dominance, seeing as EVERYONE has said that they see it spinning clockwise first.

Probably because we're used to seeing people move forward and it is logical to assume that she would spin that way.

Seems it´s indeed most people´s default interpretation - going clockwise.
I don´t know if it´s about "forward" - maybe rather that most people are right-handed and -footed and such tend to turn clockwise, if only asked to turn.. not completely sure there, though.

I really love this illusion!!
10-24-2013, 02:38 PM
Scionox

Please don't necropost. Necroposting is posting in threads that haven't been active for years, especially if OP haven"t been active as well.

*locked*