Yea that happens to me when I try. I still have yet to succeed, But I won't give up.
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Yea that happens to me when I try. I still have yet to succeed, But I won't give up.
Yeah, just keep your eyes relaxed and try to ignore the twitching in them. When you WILD, the majority of the time you are entering directly into REM sleep. Your eyes will often times start moving around on their own as the process carries on. Just try to ignore them and don't worry about them at all.
Just keep practicing and don't be afraid to make personal adjustments to the technique. The key is being able to fall asleep.
When I finally got to SP, I waited 30 mins, but nothing happened. I couldn't fall asleep, and it freaked me out. I didn't want(and couldn't xD) to move because I was in full paralysis. It seems I will have to try this when I will be really sleepy, but at least I got an SP a lot faster than before, I will try this some hours later again, when I will be really looking for sleep.
Yeah, it sounds like you made some nice progress. Once you get into full SP, all that is left to do is transition into the dream. Aka finish falling asleep. Just keep practicing and good luck to you! I ever have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
I'm getting so frustrated, I've been reading so much conflicting information, advice, opinions, I don't know where the hell I'm at and I've stopped feeling any kind of progress. I just seem to lose consciousness when I practice your WILD and I'm wondering if I should add some subtle Anchor to keep myself aware.
Yeah, I would suggest going ahead and trying that. Sometimes I use the noise from a fan, or have the tv on a volume that is barely audible. Just something minor that you can bring some attention to if you begin to fade out.
I'll try that then :)
I think the problem is that I don't know what to expect, I want mile stones to gauge my progress but apparently I can focus on my body, I'm told to have an anchor but to not focus on anything in particular and let my mind wander. I can only take so much trial and error (mostly error).
Ah, indeed. If something is consistently failing for you, then never be afraid to switch it up and try something a little different. All techniques for achieving lucidity are basically just guidelines. Feel free to tweak and throw in your own twists. Just try to find what best works for you.
In the final step i imagine a place where i can sleep? Can i imagine my own room? Then i imagine waking up? Then do a Rc or two...is that it?
By main difficult is to remain in the same position, it looks like someone is wonder you, and and i start freaking out i my heart starts pumping more. But now wioth this techinque i will will try diferrent positions like you said. Please answer
Sure, you can imagine your room if you wish. You don't really have to imagine the waking up part. Just relax and imagine whatever you wish. Once the dream scene forms (it will likely be your own room, especially if you are going to imagine it), you can perform your RCs for confirmation. Just allow the process to do the hard work for you. The dream scene will form on its own as you transition into the dream state. The increased heart rate and the presence you feel are just hallucinations, so try to ignore them and relax.
So i tried this last night. I kinda get into this dream scene thing but nothing happens. I just sorta............ fell it you know? But its never for long. Gonna try again
Ah, it sounds like you are right on the edge. Once you feel this scene, try not to react to it at all. Just continue with your process as if nothing different is going on. Relax and allow the scene to form and do whatever its going to do. Just sit back and experience it.
Hello, i'm new and i have a questions, when you go to wild or lucid, are you see thing verry clear? like in day period, when you are not sleeping, because yesterday i tried, and after hour of trying i felt like my hands changed sides or rolled over, and i tried to lift them and just part from elbow to plain was actualy lifting, they looked like brighter, it was like i was seeing the room, but the view was like from old black white tv. Oh and i felt like my body temp. were rised a little bit. Am i'm going further to wild or lucid? any suggestions? sorry for my bad english
i'm having trouble falling asleep. do i just keep my eyes closed and keep waiting for the dream scene to appear or am i supposed to go to sleep like normal after SP takes place?
Yeah, it sounds like you were getting some pretty vivid HI. You likely weren't far from transitioning into the dream state. Just try to relax and continue with the process. Try not to do too much and just let the process do the hard work for you. When your hands turned over on their own, you should have just continued with the technique and acted as if nothing unusual was happening. Nice job though. You are getting close :D!
Well, you want to try and mimic falling asleep like normal. The only difference is you want to retain your consciousness as you fall asleep. Try to fall asleep like normal, but be keep in mind what you are trying to accomplish and use some sort of anchor to keep your consciousness.
I'm perfect until I get to step 3. I've never really experienced SP (I don't think I have) so I don't have much idea of what I should be expecting. After the reverse blinking and first position change I sort of lose some of my ability to stay still. On my back I might move my finger a little bit the whole time I'm in that position, but when I go to my side, I just find it hard to stay still. Since I try this before I go to sleep will it take a LONG time for me to get to SP (2 hours like you said) and when I do finally get there I just wait till the dream scene to surround me right? And one last thing when I do start to get the whole technique down will the time it takes start going down? I'd hate to have to lay their for two hours every night. Thanks in advance.
In theory, the more you get used to the technique, the shorter amount of time it will take. This would definitely hold true for optimal WILDing. The only problem is, with you performing this as you first go to sleep, it may take a long time, every time. If you have some time to nap during the day or if you are able to perform WBTB, I strongly suggest you practice WILDing at those times. Of all the times I have tried to WILD when first going to sleep, I have been successful only a couple times. Maybe you will be different though. Best of luck to you!
No problem at all. Let me know how it goes :)
Well last night I tried it and didn't get anything, so I had my alarm set for 5 hours later. I woke up but not from my alarm. It was thundering extremely loudly so even after I was up, I couldn't even think of concentrating on WILD. I tried to take a nap and do it but then got confused. When you say acknowledge your thoughts but don't think about them too much is it just like think about them for a few seconds? Or is it like the first think that comes into your head kind of thing?
Its more like, letting freeing your mind and not forcing any thoughts. Allow everything to pass in and out of your mind and try not to pick out any details, think "Why am I thinking of this," or even stay on one thought. You don't keep your mind blank, you just allow it to act on its own accord. Your goal is falling asleep, allow your mind to do whatever and don't become distracted by it. Hope that makes sense. :P
Hi Yoshi, I've been having some... issues. With WILDing lately. |D
I tried using your relaxation tips which worked great, and then started the method of just passively letting thoughts come and go (I never used to do this, but as I'm in a dryspell I figured it wouldn't hurt). However, I ended up lying in bed for over an hour. This was during a WBTB, too.
The problem I seem to have with the thoughts thing is being unable to simply 'watch' what I'm thinking about; every time I notice my thoughts getting weirder and weirder, I mentally 'snap' back to consciousness a bit and end up mentally focusing too hard. I tend to focus on the back of my eyelids when this happens too, which I'm guessing probably doesn't help.
Any tips? I'd love to induce a WILD using this method, because I think it's a great way to enter SP and then a dream.
So say potato pops into my mind, I would just keep thinking about potatoes till the HI?