Ah.. I thought he meant don't let the whole thinking thing distract you... So when he says "Think of why you're thinking of this" for potato, I would just tell myself I'm hungry or something?
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Ah.. I thought he meant don't let the whole thinking thing distract you... So when he says "Think of why you're thinking of this" for potato, I would just tell myself I'm hungry or something?
i've tried this over and over and i just can't fall asleep. what do you mean by some sort of anchor?Quote:
Originally Posted by KingYoshi
Don't give it a second thought, don't suppress your internal monologue... Just don't pay it any attention :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LeNoob
Whenever I read WILD tutorial they are like "you have to WILD between 5-6 hours after falling asleep". Well I can't wild at that time, because I am too awake. Would it work if I try 4 or 3 hours instead? Would that be fine?
Yeah you can do 3-4. The only reason people say 5, 6, or even 7+ is because your REM periods are longer then, which gives you a better chance of hitting it at the right time and making the LD much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by NakedAlbino
Now that it's summer time I've been attempting WILD's during the day for a nap, which is also a great time.
Hmm reverse-blinking always has me confused, I never know when to stop. I witness some strain after 10-20 blinks but its strange, its almost as if the top part of my eyes is forced closed so when immediately attempting to blink I seem unable to do so but when I switch focus to the bottom area of my eyelids there is no strain and I can literally continue to blink almost endlessly :?
I'm pretty eager to try this out. I've been lucid in a DILD but I can't control it. In my previous attempts with other WILD techniques my limbs have gone numb and almost out of feeling and I've had HI but I never get to SP... What could be the reason I'm not reaching SP?
May need to try this earlier in my sleep cycle, I tried it at 5:30 this morning but I didn't get to hypnagogia, I did DILD though when I fell asleep. :)
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You need to keep your eyelids very relaxed as you perform this. Try to make it feel as close to a natural blink as possible. You stop once you are unable to blink anymore without really forcing the blink.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraxQuin
You simply aren't falling asleep. Once you start getting some HI, your body is starting to fall asleep. At that point, you just need to stay relaxed and continue the process toward sleep. SP kicks in as your body pushed closer and closer toward full-on sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammykabob
Nah, just don't worry about it. Whatever comes into mind is fine. Don't try to over analyze your thinking, just let your thoughts flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeNoob
An anchor is something that helps keep your consciousness as you drift off toward sleep. I like to use fan noise and my visuals as an anchor. Some people like to count, count breaths, sleep on a marble, feel their bed, etc. Its just a little something to help keep your grounded as you transition into the dream state. Basically, it keeps you from losing consciousness and crashing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by HPJoker
Sure. I like to WILD after 4 hours of sleep. Keep in mind that the later on in the sleep process, the longer and better quality your REM will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by NakedAlbino
Hello again, I'm back with some new experiences! :) I think I have found the best amount of time to stay awake, but now I have other problems... I don't experience SP. I have been close though, often I just lay completely still, and then I turn around, and suddenly its like a ton of pillows are pushing my body down, and some times it tickles over my body too. But when I try to move some fingers, I find out that I'm not paralyzed at all! What should I do when this happens? Should I just continue laying till, or should I get to the next step?
Another question ;3
When attempting this, while changing position, can you go into anything you want? Like one arm under a pillow how I prefer sleeping, or should I stick to rigidd positions?
Hey everyone i am new to this website, and Ive always wanted to try this technique. I tryed it last night, i did what you said, i layed on my side, after about 6 or 7 minutes of not moving my body felt numb. For some reason my heart started to beat really fast, and i had trouble breathing a bit, i got scared and gave up. So i am going to try it again tonight and let you know if it works. Any tips for me please.
This is really interesting, whenever I attempt to wild I get bored and give up, but then fall to sleep really soon after-I just need to keep trying after I have rolled over!
So every time i want to lucid dream i have to wake up after like 4 or 5 hours of sleep? Can i try it when i go to bed or not?
You can try it before bed but it won't work, the reason for that is that your first REM period after you've fallen asleep starts after an hour or more, somewhere around that. So the reason you should be doing this after 5-6 hours of sleep is that your REM periods are longer and closer together.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitman9000
Sure, you can go into any position you want. Whatever is most comfortable for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuppie11975
Just continue to lay still and allow those "pillows" to get heavier and heavier. You seem to be very close to SP fully setting in.Quote:
Originally Posted by WDr
You were doing great. That increased heart rate is a hallucination brought on by the early portions of SP. You just needed to stay calm, relaxed, and continue the process. The more you get used to it, the less scary it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitman9000
Exactly :D! Good luck to you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironautic
Hey KingYoshi's a quick question, have you tryed to perform your technique before you go to bed and does it work as well as waking up 4 - 6 hours after sleeping? It is hard for me to wake up 4 - 6 hours because i get up at 6:30am in the morning for school, expect for Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
King Yoshi just posted that he's in a hiatus-state so let me answer your question with all what i've learned. First of all, Yes, you can WILD before going to bed without the aid of WBTB(waking up 4-6 hours after sleeping), but i think it'll be pretty hard for beginners like us. Doing WBTB makes it much easier to WILD because our body's well relaxed and rested(I still don't know the scientific explanation though). I suggest you go to sleep maybe 8-9pm and set your alarm maybe around 1:30-2:00am (like you, i also get up early; 5:45am to be exact). Hope this helps :)Quote:
Hey KingYoshi's a quick question, have you tryed to perform your technique before you go to bed and does it work as well as waking up 4 - 6 hours after sleeping? It is hard for me to wake up 4 - 6 hours because i get up at 6:30am in the morning for school, expect for Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
Thanks i will try going to bed around 9, i usually go to bed about 9:30 - 10:30.Quote:
Originally Posted by weakamon
Hope you have a successful WiLD :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitman9000
Thanks!! Im going to bed right now lol. I will tell you how it goes tomorrow :)Quote:
Originally Posted by weakamon
This REALLY helped when I first stared out LDing :)
I think I'm going to start trying this... Been looking for something like this for a while :P
But I just have 2 questions...
1. Is it alright to just wake up around 5-5 1/2 hours after falling asleep, get up shortly and going back to sleep quickly, or does this mostly work with WBTB/naps?
2. How long does it usually take until you begin to enter SP after you initially lie down? I've been trying to WILD for a while, and the fact that the most I get is numbness in my upper body after a good 20-30 minutes kind of discourages me :\
Yoshi's kinda not around, so i'l try to answer your questionQuote:
Originally Posted by cyberetah
1. WBTB before WILDing makes it much more easier cause your body's already relaxed and rested(I still don't know the scientific explanation behind it though). To wake up 5-5.5 hours after sleeping is already considered WBTB. The usual "range" of WBTB is 4-6 hours. So the answer's YES
2. It really depends on the person, how well he's relaxed and how he does the technique. If WILD is done correctly, it'll take you up to 15 minutes to enter SP. Other people will take up to 30 minutes while others might take up to an hour. Like what I've said, it really depends on the person, how well he's relaxed and how he does the technique.
Hope this helps :)