**CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

ok haha sorry I'm posting again
BUT this app looks extremely helpful, so tonight I'm going to use the "Sleep Cycle alarm clock" app, and it shows how much you move when you sleep and wakes you up at the best time for you, but, it will show when you are in your deepest sleep, so you guys can get a good idea when you REM is (good for beginers!) so I'm going to use this app tonight and see what a good time is for me to do the CAN WILD, I will report back tomorrow :)
then tomorrow night I will try can wild
haha I'm so excited, and you guys should download this app if you need to find your REM phase! :)

This tutorial sounds great so I'm going to be giving it a try for the next couple months. I go to sleep at 11 so I'll be setting the alarm for 4:15 (I get up at 5:45 every day) and I'll adjust accordingly.

Good luck.:)

1st Attempt:

Alarm went off (its a spacey jingle tone that slowly rises over 3 seconds so it doesn't jar me awak) and I kept my eyes closed and didn't move. I got a real tingly feeling on my body and then SP fell over me. SP is a very interesting feeling, this is the first time it has happened to me :) I started to imagine a dream scene, while I was doing this I got this really weird feeling that I was standing up and my bed was no longer there. My vision turned really 3D'ish and I could make out trees and sand. I could hear and kind of feel big gushes of wind and waves crashing...and then nothing. I think I might have fallen asleep or woken up from being startled by the wind and waves.

So that was really cool can't wait to try again tonight. I'll post more results in 5 days or so, unless I get a lucid before then :P


Oh and when I felt like I was standing and no longer in my bed my heart started beating like crazy and got a real surge of energy.

OK you guys, I have a question, how long did it take you guys to find a good time to do this!? is it better to wake during REM, after REM, before REM? if I wake up not during a rem phase or super close to one, will it ruin it ?

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OK you guys, I have a question, how long did it take you guys to find a good time to do this!? is it better to wake during REM, after REM, before REM? if I wake up not during a rem phase or super close to one, will it ruin it ?

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Right before or during REM. It doesn't matter which.

How long did it take you to find a perfect time?

ive been messing around with lucid dreams for a while and im still trying to find the perfect time..its all about how tired you are, when you go to sleep in relation to your normal sleeping patters, and pure luck. rem cycles are (almost) exactly 90 minutes if im not mistaken, so waking yourself up either during, or right before you start another one is quite a small window. but chances are that if you wake yourself up after 6 hours and manage to wake, without moving, and slowly fall back asleep using this method, chances are you will slip back into a dream. rem cycles are so close together in the morning after sleeping for 6 hours or more that you are have a pretty good chance of hitting one if you follow everything here.

im trying this again tonight..or i should say tomorrow morning..with a louder and longer alarm lol

ill post how it goes

This technique is showing great promise! I woke up, laid still with my eyes closed, and felt SP fall over me. HH started up and I was hearing little girls giggling and playing around... kinda creepy lol, but I told myself it wasn't real. It was kind of hard to breath also. I think maybe my face was in my pillow or something which woke me up.

30 minutes later I woke but lay still with my eyes closed and I got everything going again! :D But then my stupid regular alarm went off :(

1 question I have is how do you transition from SP to the dream. Do you just do Mantra's until you fall asleep? Or do the imaganing a dream scene?

theres several ways to enter a dream from a WILD..either by 'opening your dream eyes' into the dream, sitting up in your dream, or imagining yourself falling down thru your bed..or floating up away from it..basically just try to use any visual and auditory tricks to your advantage..if you feel like youre spinning, then try to spin into the dream. you just have to make sure that if youre going to sit up, or open your eyes, then make SURE youre actually in a dream, and dont just actually sit up or acually open your eyes, bc then it will be ruined :/

i tried this last night but was only half awakened..i dont think my alarm went off..so i need a different method
thia has a lot of promise to become the next big WILD technique

I had four dreams last night, two lucid using this technique with DEILD for the second. But then I had to get up.

I usually cut my first dream after I become lucid, so I can practice DEILD for the next dream.

how aware/awake should my mind be when using this tech (or any other wild tech for that matter)?

also, are there any tips for staying aware while not getting too excited (and ruining the process)?

attempt 1:
first alarm went off, and I managed to stay still, but I was too exited so I lost the SP, but I got some HH, second alarm went off and I sneezed
but I did end up remembering a few dreams :)
I will post results in a few days :)

oh I forgot to add, on the first time the alarm off, I started to visualize a dream, but it was sorta weird because I think I started to get into the dream because I remember I "felt" my nose twitch, but i didn't twitch it in reality, I was starting to enter a dream, but I didn't know how to "roll out" of my dream body which I felt would have been good to do
how do you do iy?

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oh I forgot to add, on the first time the alarm off, I started to visualize a dream, but it was sorta weird because I think I started to get into the dream because I remember I "felt" my nose twitch, but i didn't twitch it in reality, I was starting to enter a dream, but I didn't know how to "roll out" of my dream body which I felt would have been good to do
how do you do iy?

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When you hear ringing in your ears and the sounds get louder, morph those images to the sounds you would hear in a dreamscape. Picture the dreamscape you are laying on and stand up.

Ok last night i got amazingly close.
closest I've ever gottem to a WILD. I'm SO happy!
I didn't move and the first thing I remember was ringing in my ears and a buzzing sound (tinnitus) but I didn't know what to do from that..all I remember is getting a lot of HH (colors) then the tinnitus...and that's all i remember. I heard like a wave sound also, but it was such a weird feeling and i was so happy when i woke up, i recalled 3 dreams, one was lucid for like a second, but I'm still making progress with the tinnitus. I will try again tonight. so how do I morph the tinnitus into a picture?

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Ok last night i got amazingly close.
closest I've ever gottem to a WILD. I'm SO happy!
I didn't move and the first thing I remember was ringing in my ears and a buzzing sound (tinnitus) but I didn't know what to do from that..all I remember is getting a lot of HH (colors) then the tinnitus...and that's all i remember. I heard like a wave sound also, but it was such a weird feeling and i was so happy when i woke up, i recalled 3 dreams, one was lucid for like a second, but I'm still making progress with the tinnitus. I will try again tonight. so how do I morph the tinnitus into a picture?

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I'm right where you are with this technique! :P I can get the symptoms happening every night but I'm still having trouble with "getting" into the dream. I'm loving this technique so far, just need a bit more practice...

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Originally Posted by Cosmix

I'm right where you are with this technique! :P I can get the symptoms happening every night but I'm still having trouble with "getting" into the dream. I'm loving this technique so far, just need a bit more practice...

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I love it too! I used it like a month ago, but wasn't really serious with it, but I've been trying it seriously since Friday, only a few days ago, and I will try again tonight :)
tell me what happens if you try it tonight :D and how you learn how to transition, when you do :)
I'm so excited to go to bed hahahaha, well, good luck :D
oh by the way, what alarm do you use? an app? or an alarm? or something else?

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I love it too! I used it like a month ago, but wasn't really serious with it, but I've been trying it seriously since Friday, only a few days ago, and I will try again tonight :)
tell me what happens if you try it tonight :D and how you learn how to transition, when you do :)
I'm so excited to go to bed hahahaha, well, good luck :D
oh by the way, what alarm do you use? an app? or an alarm? or something else?

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I use my phones (Blackberry Storm) calendar and set a task for every morning at 4. I have a jingle spacey alarm noise that rises over about 5 seconds so it doesn't jar me awake :)

I'll let you know how tonight goes, the other night I got HH of little girls or kids giggling...it was kinda creepy lol.
It's cool your doing this too, hopefully we can help each other out.

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Originally Posted by Cosmix

I use my phones (Blackberry Storm) calendar and set a task for every morning at 4. I have a jingle spacey alarm noise that rises over about 5 seconds so it doesn't jar me awake :)

I'll let you know how tonight goes, the other night I got HH of little girls or kids giggling...it was kinda creepy lol.
It's cool your doing this too, hopefully we can help each other out.

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hahahaha ewe that's creepy! I haven't experienced anything but colors in HH...and definetly we should help eachother out! Iwillbe on here tomorrow to update what happens :)

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I use my phones (Blackberry Storm) calendar and set a task for every morning at 4. I have a jingle spacey alarm noise that rises over about 5 seconds so it doesn't jar me awake :)

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Oh hey, I've got a blackberry pearl, is there any way to set an alarm that stops after a few seconds? Like, how do you do yours?

Hey, I just joined after having read all 17 pages (quite a lot to read, very interesting though). I have tried this technique for 2 nights now. In the first one I moved too much and this morning I just fell asleep straight after having been woken by the Alarm (I use the Apimac timer with Glass x 5).

I've had one weird dream though. I was dreaming and did a reality check (flicking a light switch) and as soon as I realised I was dreaming I woke up. I literally didn't have a single second of lucidity and no chance to rub my hands or so.

Anyway, I'll continue following this thread and eventually, after a few days of trying, I might be able to have my first lucid dream!

How long does it usually take for the SP to kick in?

So last night I took some vitamin b6. When. Firt got it about 4 weeks ago I took it for like 2 days and it only worked the first time I used it and it gave me a false awakenin I turned into an ld. So I waited a few weeks to take it again and I had the alarm setup but it didn't wake me up last night at all. But. Was having a dream and it was kind of a nightmare because we were killing these people but then I realized I was dreaming but I wanted to get out of that dream so I literally forced myself to have a false awakening so I could start the lucid dream.I don't know how I made myself but I had a false awakening and I couldn't believe it! That only lasted for a short time,but ph well :) wl try the can wild to ight,but I will put the alarm closer to me (I think that was the problem last nigh)

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Oh hey, I've got a blackberry pearl, is there any way to set an alarm that stops after a few seconds? Like, how do you do yours?

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I use Calendar and the app Berrybuzz (it can change the LED colors and set alert tones for like everything - its really cool). So what I do is go to Calendar and set a Task for every morning at 4am with a 1 minute duration and reminder of 0 minutes. Then go to Berrybuzz and set whatever ringer you want for the alarm in "Profiles". It should only ring once. If you need any more help lemme know.

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How long does it usually take for the SP to kick in?

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For me it happens within 30 seconds of my alarm going off.

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So last night I took some vitamin b6. When. Firt got it about 4 weeks ago I took it for like 2 days and it only worked the first time I used it and it gave me a false awakenin I turned into an ld. So I waited a few weeks to take it again and I had the alarm setup but it didn't wake me up last night at all. But. Was having a dream and it was kind of a nightmare because we were killing these people but then I realized I was dreaming but I wanted to get out of that dream so I literally forced myself to have a false awakening so I could start the lucid dream.I don't know how I made myself but I had a false awakening and I couldn't believe it! That only lasted for a short time,but ph well :) wl try the can wild to ight,but I will put the alarm closer to me (I think that was the problem last nigh)

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Very nice, did you get to do anything in your false awakening?

My arm was completely asleep this morning when the alarm went off so I had to move to get circulation going again :P Had some interesting dreams afterwards though.

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I use Calendar and the app Berrybuzz (it can change the LED colors and set alert tones for like everything - its really cool). So what I do is go to Calendar and set a Task for every morning at 4am with a 1 minute duration and reminder of 0 minutes. Then go to Berrybuzz and set whatever ringer you want for the alarm in "Profiles". It should only ring once. If you need any more help lemme know.
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Ok sounds like what I do but without the berrybuzz. I set the alarm for 5 am, then a calendar alarm for 7 but they both make the same noise. Are you saying the app will let me change the alert noises for different alarms?