Never heard of the finger counting RC before. Perhaps it's just my lack of experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMind
Also, thanks CrazyInSane! Hopefully I will have success soon like the others.
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Never heard of the finger counting RC before. Perhaps it's just my lack of experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMind
Also, thanks CrazyInSane! Hopefully I will have success soon like the others.
Ok. I'm going to attempt 150 times before considering giving up and going back to concentrating on MILD and DJ. If I give up before then I will change my name to LOSER! or say somewhere that I'm a loser. And you can call me a loser! I always give up real easily so have to do this. The least amount of attempts allowed is one every other day.
i didnt get an LD, but the alarm going off helped me to remember and journal a dream, which i tried to mild back into, but my gf woke me up. so it can at least help your recall.
I had a DILD after doing this last night! it was pretty short though, and i still haven't been able to WILD.
Attempt 4
Ok. This morning I made progress. I woke up to the alarm. And stayed still. I had a strong urge to swallow but resisted well. The alarm was set 7 hrs into sleep. I felt SP in my legs, up to my chest and my arms. My heart was beating quite fast. I kept getting distracted from my visualization. Kept wanting to observe what the SP is like. Every time I stopped visualizing I felt weaker SP. But I never enter transition. No weird noises. No HI. And it went for so long about 20 mins before I gave up and moved. Do you think this was an SP or was I just imagining it? I did have a blanket on me maybe that contributed to the feeling of SP. And when I broke away from it by moving, all the heaviness in my arms and legs also went. In my visualization I found that calm images were more effective.
And one more thing. Really important to have a quiet room without noisy air conditioning or the sound of your Dad grinding coffee outside.
This don't work like a WILD for me it's more like an EILD. Something External that make me more aware of my dream. I didn't have a lucid dream, but a great recall.
Next night I put a message in my alarm like "You are dreaming do a realitycheck"
and hopefully a dreamcharacter tells me to do so.
ok so I've read all the posts to me, and the shortest time period for my alarm is a minute :(
and I have a whole plan last night
but i've found when I set alarms for 5,5:30am I don't wake up to it,so that is good because now I know when I'm in my REM sleep if I go to bed around 11 or 12.
but I DID have a long lucid dream last night, but I woke up because in the dream I was pushing someone, and then my arms were above my head and in the dream my harms went down and in real life my arms slammed down and it woke me up
:(
oh and I couldn't set alarms because my sister and nephew stayed the night and there was a thunderstorm and the power went out at like 8 last night and it's still out
I'm so glad to have helped someone else out with it :) Too bad I'm not having near the same kind of success that you're already having. I think I'll start posting my progress in this thread, but honestly, it's not going that well for me. Glad to have helped, though!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMind
Now, for some motivation! Here's some of my reactions to this technique.. These are chat logs, I sent these messages to a friend over IM. Just posting them here so you can see my results.
(8:11:49 AM) Kaolc: Well, I'm confused now
(8:11:56 AM) Kaolc: had two LDs tonight
(8:12:08 AM) Kaolc: But.. What confuses me is that they were both DILDs
(8:12:18 AM) Kaolc: I set my alarm to 6 hours after I fell asleep
(8:12:23 AM) Kaolc: But I never woke up to do the canwild
(8:12:34 AM) Kaolc: I think I might have slept through it, and then it triggered a RC
(8:12:39 AM) Kaolc: because I got lucid from the nose RC both times
(8:12:48 AM) Kaolc: And what pisses me off is..
(8:12:58 AM) Kaolc: Because I didn't wake up before the dreams
(8:13:07 AM) Kaolc: I'm having a REALLY hard time remembering anything at all
(8:13:36 AM) Kaolc: For the first one, I only remember that I suddenly felt a need to do a RC, although I thought "No way this can be a dream"
(8:13:46 AM) Kaolc: But then it was a dream
(8:14:05 AM) Kaolc: and this time, I decided to focus on senses and rub hands to start with to get everything clearer and so it could last longer
(8:14:35 AM) Kaolc: And I just know I ran around and did some random stuff, nothing important, didn't fly either, just some messing around.. But I don't remmeber anything in details :/
(8:14:50 AM) Kaolc: I remember that it felt like 3 hours at least, though
(8:15:11 AM) Kaolc: and then, at the end I felt it fading away, probably because my REM cycle was done
(8:15:21 AM) Kaolc: So I tried to continue with a DEILD by lying still as I woke up
(8:15:24 AM) Kaolc: But um..
(8:15:28 AM) Kaolc: Then I don't remember a thing
(8:15:42 AM) Kaolc: I don't think I woke up, but I because non lucid anyways
(8:16:35 AM) Kaolc: then I remember later in the night (I think? Maybe I DEILDed and don't remember) well anyways, I did another nose RC and it was a dream again, did the same hand rubbing and that, continued the LD doing nothing important just like the last one, but this one only lasted 30 minutes
(8:16:53 AM) Kaolc: But what really drives me crazy is that I don't remember any of the actual things I did inside any of the two dreams
(8:16:58 AM) Kaolc: I just remember getting lucid >.>
(8:17:11 AM) Kaolc: And I don't even know why I got lucid.. So yeah
(8:17:15 AM) Kaolc: Success.. But still a failure
(8:17:29 AM) Kaolc: And tomorrow I start school >.> gonna be hard to continue with this tactic when I gotta get up at 5 am.
(8:17:32 AM) Kaolc: Have fun.
My current explanation to this one is that I was so tired that I didn't fully wake up but it just triggered the need for a RC. Both were amazing, but left me with this ANNOYING feeling all day because I didn't remember what happened in the dreams.
Got a few other IM logs like this one with successes, but they're on my laptop. Will post them later.
I'm having trouble with being too tired as well. While I remember bits and pieces of dreams (with the occasional memory of waking up to the alarm) I've not been able to hold my attention before falling asleep again. Either that or I haven't even woken up.
exactly what happens to me D:
or I just am too lazy xD
Yes. Being too tired makes it harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2
Attempt 5
Epic fail.
yes this seems quite promising, but at the same time I believe that after you wake up the first time and not move, it will be really damn hard to stay awake, especially because of the fact that you arent moving, but in truth there is only one way to find out, and I will try
Well, I have a custom alarm. It's that french song from Inception! :D I put the trumpet intro for the three seconds as with the regular alarm, and them I have the first two lines so I can be made awake, and them have something to remind me what to do/gradually wake me up a bit more. It hasn't worked yet but i believe I was trying it too early. I'm going for the 5 hours tonight, and see if that helps any better.
yeah I can never do it right :( It makes me sad. but I recall like 5 dreams just by setting the alarms in general
It doesn't work that way for me. Without the alarm I recall better.
Do I get a signature now?
I get better recall with the alarm when setting it early, too.
Last night failed. I'm trying to use new sounds as alarms, but I'm keeping the fade-in just to ensure I don't get startled. I think I've gotten too used to the old sound. Last night I tried a new one and it just woke me up then stopped a second later. It was set to snooze after 10 secs, so it nearly didn't wake me up. I was too tired and almost instantly fell asleep again, also felt like I wasn't in my REM period.. I set the alarm to go off after 6:30, I'll try 5 and 7 this night, will see if that works out better. Also will set it to autosnooze after 15 secs instead of 10. Will let you know how it goes!
Update on my last post. I tried again tonight, setting my alarm at 5 and 7 hours. The one after 5 hours didn't wake me up at all, so I'm guessing I wasn't in REM sleep because then I'd be sleeping more lightly. Since a full REM period is 90 minutes I'll try cutting that in half and adding/subtracting it from the 5 hours.. So next night will be 4:15 and 5:45 for my two alarms.
I never got to the 7 hour alarm either, because I woke up with a cramp in my leg after 6:40 -.- when it finally went away and I almost fell asleep, the alarm got me wide awake again.
Oh well, tonight's another chance. Wish me luck! :D
Good luck! :D I've been having frequent problems waking up too. But once I set my alarm to when I would wake up, I have trouble becoming fully aware and usually just fall back to sleep. Any suggestions?
Keep that drowsiness. Just try harder to stay aware once it's time.
How do you stay aware once it's time? I guess you just do, right? I think I could have done it last night, but I was so antsy about moving (cause I'm moving lol) so I think I just gave up, which is what I did if I recall correctly. Anyhow, will try again tonight. So far it's been 16 days since my first two LDs! :O That's waaaay too long imo.
That's what she said.
By staying aware, do you mean during the actual WILD, or do you mean aware as in remembering to even try?